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Foner: “Who They Are and Why They Have Come” Response (Cheyn Shah)

Our cultural consciousness generally thinks of immigrants as poor, often uneducated. This does not necessarily mean that we think of newcomers to this country as less intelligent or hardworking—we just assume that there is some financial or educational deficit that drove them to come here.

Foner begins the chapter by noting that this is no longer true. Many immigrants now arrive in New York with advanced degrees; unlike the Jews and Italians of a century ago, many now arrive comfortably ensconced in the middle class. I found this interesting because it places my family’s immigration in a larger context. My father finished medical school before arriving here, and my mother came here to study physical therapy at NYU. It was not an absence of education or money that led them to make the trip to the United States. They were already educated and they were not poor. What led them to come here was the prospect of more and better education, and a belief that being comfortable in America is very different from being comfortable in India, often described as the most dysfunctional democracy on Earth.

This fits in with what Foner is saying. The post-1965 set of immigrants to New York are economically diverse. Indians, who are currently the wealthiest ethnicity in the US, are a far cry from both the immigration waves of the past and of the experience of many other immigrant groups today. While my parents were only in New York briefly before moving to Austin and eventually Atlanta, I think that Foner’s statement about New York can be applied to the whole country. Immigrants are a socioeconomically different sort now, so much so that the word “immigrant” can no longer imply poverty.

The second thought I had was about the ethnic diversity of the two waves she discusses. It is clear that immigration to New York is extremely varied, but what will that immigration look like in the future? Given the immigration quotas set by the INS for each country, it seems unlikely that a single ethnic group will come to dominate new immigration to New York in the coming years. The idea of immigration as a series of waves, an explosive succession of Germans and Irish and Jews and Italians, may be dead. Also, the world is becoming more prosperous. Expanding middle classes in Africa and China and South America mean that in the future, many people may not have a reason to flee.

Who, Why, and How?

Though at times very repetitive and mundane with numbers and statistics, Nancy Foner really brings to light some key issues surrounding immigration to New York City.  She differentiates between the current (though, out of date at this point, copyrighted in 2000) immigrants and the “old immigrants” (though in history, we consider early 20th century immigrants as the “new immigrants,” but let me not get into that).

Who
Back in the 19th and 20th centuries, people usually came from Europe.  The first wave was from North/Western Europe (England, Ireland – though Catholic and stigmatized, German) and the second from South/Eastern Europe (Italy, Poland, Russia, JEWS).  Now, because the world has significantly become more globalized, Europe is not the only place that people emigrate from.  A big portion of Asia, Latin America, and the Caribbean Islands are now finding their way to cities such as New York City.

One thing that I found very interesting about some of the people that come to NYC, is that a lot of them are actually educated and professionals.  It is common to believe that immigrants – especially illegal immigrants – are lower class people that seek minimum wage jobs.  According to Foner, this is not the picture of all immigrants.  She somewhere states that your average street vender or taxi driver might actually be a well educated foreigner, but resorts to lower wage jobs mainly because of discrimination or sometimes because of illegality.  It was also mind-boggling that a woman could make more money babysitting in the states, than she could actually working a professional job in Latin America.  I must say, we really take for granted what we have!

Why
The main connecting factor between the oldest, the older, and the new immigrants is their desire for a better life.  Though they all come for different reasons – political oppression, economic instability, unemployment, etc – their main goal is to find a freer, stabler, and job filled world in New York.

It was also mind-boggling that a woman could make more money babysitting in the states, than she could actually working a professional job in Latin America.  I must say, we really take for granted what we have!

How
A common preconception of immigrants – especially illegal ones – is that they walk the Mexican border, or float to Florida on tiny rafts.  Though there are some cases where this is true, a lot of immigrants today actually just fly over here from one airport to another.  It’s crazy to think about, but any plane your own, might contain many future illegal immigrants, or even people coming here for a legal new life.

Right before finishing the reading for tomorrow’s class while walking on the treadmill, I was watching CNN and heard about Obama’s new push for immigration reform.  One thing that he’s stated is to strengthen border control.  My question is, does border control merely mean the Mexican/Canadian border?  If that is so, then he might need to read Foner’s book and realize that most illegal immigrants are coming in elsewhere.  If “border control” also includes airport customs and official documentation, then I guess I understand.  That being said, at least in the NYC area, the amount of illegal immigrants isn’t something to worry about, states Foner.

Marina B. Nebro