Dynamic of the Domus

The dynamic of the domus is very complicated. Orsi repeatedly states that the woman is the center of the Italian Harlem family, and thus the real person of power. However, through the examples shown, that is not necessarily the case. The mother always answers to others when an issue concerns the traditions of the family. The mother may not have to answer to her children, or even her husband, but when resolving an issue, or even conducting daily rituals, women do not make decisions or traditions themselves.

A mother of the family must answer to four different people. Her own mother, who instilled her own traditional values unto her, her mother-in-law who continually tries to instill her own, different, values onto her daughter in law, the community, who constantly scrutinizes and judges every move the mother makes, and finally, the Madonna, or rather the idea of the most ideal mother, that every Italian woman seems to strive to.

Keeping all of this in mind, it becomes a lot easier to understand why women were considered so inferior to men. Their roles were too important, and no one expected a mother to instill the proper values to her family alone. A woman may have seemed powerful in her domus, but that power stemmed from a collection of values and ideas that were instilled onto her, and were constantly being instilled onto her by other women.

Men on the other hand, were more or less free from this type of judgment, and did not have to necessarily answer to anyone. Their decisions and their judgments were final, because that’s what they were raised to believe. Women were, perhaps, the ones who strove for some sort of perfection in the domus, while men were the ones who made the hard and fast decision for his family. Women were expected to judge and scrutinize the actions of other women, perhaps as a means to perfect their own domus. Men, however, did not have to strive for this type of perfection. They had to worry about the survival of their family, not the survival of their traditions. Surviving in itself, in a new city as an immigrant, was all that was necessary. As a poor immigrant, all men were in the same shoes, and so no man could judge another.

And so, the woman may have been considered inferior simply because she was always being judged by everyone in the community, whereas men were not.

-Christina Torossian

The Madonna on 115th Street 129-149, 163-178

The role of the Italian women as Orsi describes it is puzzling. They seem to be held to contradictory expectations. On the one hand “married women with children were the source of power and authority in the domus….” And yet when Covello interviewed Marie Concilio, she told him that Italian women were really just supposed to “help mother in spoiling father and the brother…” It seems strange; women hold the power to make all of these decisions about everyone in the domus, and yet they act as the servants of the household.

If Mother was so powerful, why was she waiting on everyone else? She had worked hard to get to where she was, enduring the grueling years of being meticulously watched through her childhood and adolescence and ensuring that she did absolutely nothing to taint her reputation. Once she was settled in her role as the matriarch of the domus, she did not seem to reap the respect that she earned.

I think the answer to this conundrum is reflected in the next section of the reading, where we took a closer look at the intense devotion that the Italians had to their religion and traditions.  The faithfulness that these immigrants showed towards their Southern Italian lifestyle is astounding. They worshipped their statue of the Virgin and held the procession of the festa one week a year to reaffirm their devotion. The Madonna was the center of their life, and she was the solver of all problems.

What helped me to better understand a woman’s place in Italian Harlem was when Orsi wrote about women going to pray to the Madonna for help. He writes, “ These problems were never presented as personal…the crisis always threatened the domus.” The Italian matriarch was not a dictator; she was a selfless leader, devoted to using her power as head of the domus only for the good of the domus.

This is what respect means for the Italians. We’ve already discussed that Italian immigrants were willing to work the worst of jobs and hours if only to benefit their families. This was the true role of the Italian woman, to work hard to ensure the continuity of the domus. Her working to serve everyone in her household was not a sign of her low status. On the contrary, it meant that only she was capable of caring for everyone and deciding what was best for each member of the domus. The power given to her in her role in the home was to be used for, and only for, the good of the domus.

Response #6 Madonna of 115th Street (pgs. 129-149, 163-178)

The public-private dichotomy between the mother and father that was so characteristic of life in Italian Harlem reminded me of the concept of dramaturgy that I learned in my sociology class last semester. From a dramaturgical viewpoint, people play roles in their daily lives, almost as if they are always actors. The part of dramaturgy that reminded me of the dichotomy of Italian Harlem was the concept of front stage vs. backstage. Like it sounds, backstage represents the private aspects of our lives. In Italian Harlem, the backstage occurred inside the home, where outsiders could not witness the authority of the mother. The backstage was so private in this case that great precautions were taken to prevent anyone outside the home from seeing it. As the curtain comes up, or as a family ventures onto the streets, backstage is almost forgotten as the family is now performing for the masses. In this front stage (the place that we want people to see), the father has all the authority. This whole “act” that was put on by families in East Harlem is similar to the idea of drama and chaos backstage at a theatre and the neat, polished performance given to the audience.

On a different note, the second section of this reading clarified some confusion I previously had when reading the very first chapter of the book. When I read the detailed description of the festa in Chapter 1, part of me didn’t understand how people could be so reverent to the point where they would lick the aisles of a church. This reading made me understand the reason that this devotion was so important to the residents of East Harlem. The festa symbolized so much for the immigrants: connection between generations that might otherwise have been vastly different, the bridging of New York City and their hometowns in Italy, and a return to one’s roots (in particular, the mother). Without this celebration, many of these immigrants would have nothing to pull them through the difficult other 51 weeks of the year. In a way, their devotion is what held them together and reminded them why they fought so hard to protect the domus.

Orsi p. 75-96, 107-129 (Cheyn Shah)

These chapters showed me that my stereotype of Italian family life was incorrect. I had always imagined Italian families from that generation to be far warmer than what Orsi describes. The huge number of Mafia movies set during that time period that I watched portrayed Italian families obsessed with rispetto and disdainful of outsiders, but also tremendously warm and gregarious with one another. This stereotypical family refused to let its sons and daughters date outside the community, and it had nothing but contempt for those who did not support their families with hard work—but it also wrapped its members in a cocoon of endless gatherings, gifts, and feasts.

Orsi would tell me I was wrong. To him, rispetto was colder and more complex. Mothers denied their children the chance to play or even to go outside; fathers gave their children little except tyrannical posturing. At first, this was contradictory to me. If the chief concern of the domus is to protect its own, why would those within it be so needlessly cruel to each other?

The answer, it seems, is that a family in Italian Harlem was not made up of individuals who cooperated to ensure one another’s well being. The domus was not a family as we know it; it was a body that disregarded the individuals within it, that judges its parents and its children based not on their ability to make each other happy but on their ability to show rispetto to one another and the outside world.

We may think of this structure as oppressive. There can be no doubt that the children of immigrants did. In some cases, it seems, even their parents had lingering issues with it. Yet the domus could not be given up. While it and its emphasis on respect were external, its values were internal. No one taught children rispetto; it was so deeply engrained in Italian Harlem that children merely absorbed it like air or water. It was so pervasive, so deeply rooted in people’s minds, that it was nearly impossible to escape.

The Madonna of 115th Street (75-96, 107-129)

The paradox of Italian Harlem continues. Previously, many immigrants expressed no desire to return back to Italy, with the exception of seeing loved ones, but this sentiment changes. While clinging to culture in order to retain the sense of community, comfort, and stability is understandable, Italian Harlem’s rigid adherence to a domus-centric society comes across as counterproductive towards achieving the American dream.

The rules governing life in the domus seem to directly contradict the ideas of liberation from an oppressive homeland; they are extremely restrictive in nature and demand segregation and complete submission. They not only enforce the idea of segregation but also went so far as to criticize others outside of their ethnic community. Italian Harlem was an isolated region of old-fashioned Italy itself, where Italians married other Italians, to produce and raise more Italians, who only adhered to ‘Italian’ domus-centered lifestyles. Immigrants who left to pursue a life in America simultaneously condemned what they considered the “American way” and feared their children will grow up to be American. One man expressed that although his children did “’things in the Italian manner,’ [he was still] afraid that they were ‘thoroughly American’.” This is a catch-22 for the younger generations, because they, having grown up in America, would never be able to meet the high standards of maintaining pure Italian values.

Additionally, the entire domus structure comes across as a paradox to me. First off, stress on both blind loyalty to relatives and strong moral values seems like a contradiction to me; one of the ‘rules’ stated is that you should stick by a relative whether they are right or wrong, but their being wrong might entail unethical or immoral behavior. Overall, the domus system breeds it’s own destruction. The stress on respect and authority within the family is revealed to create more rifts than ties, whether it is due to the rivalry between the eldest son and father, the husband and brother-in-law, etc. Italian men were perpetually angry not because the domus was dying but because its values were clung to.

[On a side note] Though not entirely surprising based on the abuses of the Church in Italy, I thought it was interesting that, while being “Christian” was synonymous with being a good citizen, there was avid anticlericalism sentiment and parents discouraged their sons from joining the clergy.

Overall, Italian Harlem is a region of extremes to me. Not only is the domus like a Chinese finger trap, but the entire community’s resistance to American influence and cultural integration is as well; the more the immigrants and older generations struggled to maintain the domus, traditional ‘Italian’ values, and separate themselves from their ‘American’ peers, the more conflicts and tensions seemed to arise.

The Madonna of 115th Street (pg 75-96, 107-129)

In discussing the domus community of the Italians in Harlem, Orsi delineates the codes and norms the immigrants maintained and distinguishes their lifestyle from the way of the native Americans. I found this tension of immigrant life very interesting in that while the Italians actively came to settle in America, they came not for ideological, but rather for practical, reasons and thus they attempted to transplant themselves proudly in America while refusing to be American; instead seeking to keep every bit of their roots maintained, done through the method of Italian domus lifestyle. Even while living in America, “when immigrants wanted to criticize their children’s new ideas … they accused them of being American,” a jab at the very country in which they chose to reside (78). And in describing the lifestyle they expected for their future generations, planted in American soil, descriptions were based upon Italian circumstances, such as one woman’s “warning to her children to be faithful to Italian ways,” wherein she expected them to “have a house like [her] grandfather had in Italy” (78).

Even then, the notable characteristics of being American were independence, individualism and rejection of traditional nuclear family life, and the first-, and even second-generation Italians chaffed at such American ways. They, instead, relied upon the constraints of domus life to keep them all in line with Italian morals, claiming that Italians were the only ones who knew how to raise a family properly. I found it quite interesting as to how such an open, fluid and vibrant domus community could flourish on the shores of a foreign and counter environment. Orsi gives countless pages of description of the vibrancy of the domus and comments that “the life of the domus spilled out into closely watched streets and hallways” (92). Both private and public life for the immigrants were influenced by their heritage, and while the fourth chapter offers some harsher, more critical perspectives of domus life, it yet admits that “American-born generations … always remained bound by the demands and values of the domus” (129). Somehow, the first-generation immigrants were able to create a tight enough community life that the following generations still maintained ties to whatever extent, even while dabbling in integrating into their American identity.

Response #3: The Madonna of 115th Street (Pg. 75-96, 107-129)

“…The Italian home and family, what I have been calling the domus, is the religion of Italian Americans (pg. 77).” This quote surprised me. After reading chapter one and learning all about the  annual religion celebration of the festa of the Madonna on Mount Carmel on East 115th Street, such a statement about the domus is confusing.  What exactly does Louis Giambastiani mean when he says religion? It seems that he implying that the domus is like a religion because it functions like many organized religions.

One of the most important ideas surrounding the domus is the idea of self-sacrifice.  There are no individuals, rather just the community. The individual sacrifices their own needs, desires, and emotions, in order to serve a greater good, which according to the Italians is the family unit.  Many times what the second generation immigrant is giving up is not something trivial. It might even be a potential job because it would force someone to live far away, which threatens the domus.  New alliances may be made far away from home with new people, such as the Americans, who cannot be trusted. Many organized religions have some aspect of self-sacrifice to a god, a saint, a church. By being apart of a religion, you accept that sometimes what you want and what your religion deems right are not the same.

The domus rules about marriage follow a similar pattern. Many religions have rules about being endogamous, or marrying within a certain group, in this case, Italians.  There is fear that if Italians do not marry other Italians, the union will ruin the Italian blood.  But more than that, young children “picked up (pg. 77)” family values by living in the domus, which are very important, apparently more important than being educated at school.  If a man chooses a wife that is not Italian, she does not know the Italian values because she has not grown up in an Italian household or domus, so how can she pass them on to the next generation?  His wife is probably a fine young lady, but she is lacking in the understanding of the domus.  According to Robert Orsi, educating the children was a cultural task, so how can this woman do that, if she is not part of the culture? This is intertwined with the fear of assimilation and becoming American, two undesirable effects of living in East Harlem and marrying a non-Italian. The religion, or domus centered society of that culture is lost.

Often the rules in the domus seemed suffocating and old fashioned, but they were ingrained in the second generation, just like any religion which was practiced at home would be.  Whether they liked it or not, the domus was their form of organized religion without the godly aspect and was going to dictate how they lived their lives.

Response #5: The Madonna of 115th Street (pg.75-96, 107-129)

To continue on the topic of “paradox” that we discussed in class, I found that these two sections introduced more paradoxes and contradictions. The first section painted the picture of a loyal, close-knit supportive life in the domus. The domus, Orsi explained, was a way for immigrants to feel grounded in a new, unstable society. People were very close and had a strong sense of community and support for one another. The second section of the reading seemed like the “behind the scenes” or “behind closed doors” aspects of the domus. Beneath the domus’ supposedly positive exterior, life inside the domus was far from picture perfect.

The main paradox I found within section two was the idea of authority in the domus. The Italian parents demanded the utmost respect from their children yet Orsi writes that the eldest son often claimed more authority than his father. This makes little sense to me. I feel that this discrepancy over who has power, who should bow down to whom, etc. would provide for much confusion as well as the sending of mixed messages within the domus. Perhaps, because my upbringing was a stark contrast to the “domus” lifestyle (think Gilmore Girls), I just don’t truly understand the mechanics of family life in the domus. Maybe it is not as confusing as it seemed, but I certainly would not want to be the father nor the eldest son in a domus because of the conflict and rivalry that existed among the members of the family.

Orsi’s description of the domus in the second section appeared, at times, cult-like. I was particularly annoyed at the number of times the Italian immigrants spoke badly of America. Orsi quoted them frequently putting down America’s methods of child rearing, education, etc. These people came to America for a reason and their disrespect of our values and methods doesn’t seem right. Many immigrants appeared to feel superior to the “American” way of life. Why are they here, then, if they hate the lifestyle so much? This is not to say that all Italians, or all immigrants, think in this way, but I always find myself tired of foreigners in America putting down the way we live.

Religious Worship and Opportunism

Robert Orsi brings into light the predominant traditions of Italian Harlem by painting a vivid picture of the largest annual celebration of the area. The festa of the Madonna of 115th street was an energetic and colorful celebration fueled by extreme religious devotion. The fervent Catholicism of Italian culture took root in the new immigrant communities of the late 19th century. The most vibrant display of this carry-over of tradition was, then, the festa—a celebration dedicated to the Virgin Mary, or la Madonna. The Madonna of 115th was a statue depicting the Virgin Mary, and in her arms a portrayal of the infant Jesus. This physical statue was much revered by the people of Italian Harlem. Even beyond the confines of Northern Manhattan, Italians from distant areas of the United States traveled to New York to join in the celebration that worshipped the statue. Food, games, and superstitious acts of penance were all common aspects of the lively celebration. In a procession sponsored by merchants and members of the New York elite, a statue of the Madonna—mounted on a float with a box to collect money and jewelry from the impoverished penitents—weaved its way through several blocks of the Italian community.

In the next chapter of the book, Orsi discusses the motives and backgrounds of the average Italian Harlem immigrant. The immigrants came mostly from Southern Italy—but even then they chose to maintain subdivisions by identifying with narrower regional boundaries. Italian immigrants left the bitterness of life in their home country for questionably less deplorable conditions in the Western world. And knowing of the horrible state from which these poor immigrants fled, the entrepreneur’s smile grew wider. Italian immigrants were used as strikebreakers, a business practice that aggravated ethnic tensions and urban progression. The account of Vincent Scilipoti only confirms an unremitting exploitation of the working class—something already very much established as a rulebook tactic of the rising capitalist.

Reading Response #1: “The Madonna of 115th Street” (Pages 1-49)

Erica Davis

The beginning two paragraphs of Robert A. Orsi’s “The Madonna of 115th Street,” explore the struggles of families who came to America in search of a better life, often finding there “a world often not very different from the one they had left. It was a place of hope and ambitions, where fear of failure, despair, and uncertainty were just a given” (48). The Italian Harlem Orsi describes was “a place of separation where people came to work on behalf of those from whom they were separated” (48), and while “the decision to emigrate was a family decision,” still, “the pain of the separation—on both sides of the Atlantic—was no less real for this” (23). Italian Harlem was a place in which both the longing for home, which anecdotal proof from the passage shows led one woman to die after “a long depression brought on by the dislocations of immigration” (20), and the unyielding endurance of wanting to make this new land a home for families combined in such a way that while some lost their Italian identities upon reaching the shores of this new land, others discovered it after living in the area for ages and letting the community change them.

At the epicenter of the balance between longing for this new home and the place people came from was a strong and continual dedication that these immigrants had to their faith. The description of the festa of Mount Carmel and the procession of la Madonna provide a powerful and edifying glance at the gravity of the people of Italian Harlem’s emphasis on prayer. Their promises to la bella Madonna, among which were marching with candles that were the same weight as the one carrying them, licking the pavement of the alter, crawling on hands and feet through the searing streets in procession, and spending money that family’s didn’t have on clothing and donations to the church in an attempt to go to any lengths necessary to win the favor of la figura, were taken extremely seriously, with generations taking on the burdens of their predecessors promises years after their passing. The emphasis on religion as something that brought the Italian community from places as far apart as California and New York together was something that I thought was a true indicator of the dedication these immigrants have to their tradition and their beliefs. The saint’s statues were seen as a “rallying point” that united the entire community and gave them a sense of comfort and community despite the miles and miles that separated them from Italy. The strength of togetherness brought out in these ceremonies, processionals in which the strong helped the weak, the rich the poor, and all out of the goodness of their hearts and with nothing to gain but good favor in the eyes of the Madonna, is a truly potent image that Orsi describes beautifully.

Outside of the traditions of this festival, which spread beyond the church and religious practices themselves to a neighborhood wide cleaning, cooking and hosting spree in which the community transforms into a bustling center for cultural appreciation for an indeterminate period of time, the realization that Eastern Harlem was an area crumbling around these immigrant people also rallies them together. While “the residents of Italian Harlem did not need outside researchers and statisticians to inform them about the plight of their community” (43), and many “improved their lot,” and “left the neighborhood [when they did]” (45), “while they lived in the neighborhood they found it a secure and supportive community where neighbors helped each other in times of trouble and shared in each other’s celebrations” (45). An appreciation for their home and want to better it is something that made the Italians of Harlem a very powerful group, drawn together not only by their appreciation for their customs and neighborhood wide plights, but in their want to share in the experiences with the people around them. These people worked tirelessly and devoted themselves so fully that shrines in their households were not uncommon, and through it all they managed to stay a devoted and united community.