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Comments on: Bull head sculpture http://macaulay.cuny.edu/seminars/orenstein07/?p=60 Seminar 1 with Professor Orenstein | HN C100 | W 3:10-5:40 Tue, 06 Nov 2012 17:26:14 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.2 By: JGreenfield http://macaulay.cuny.edu/seminars/orenstein07/?p=60#comment-36 JGreenfield Wed, 26 Sep 2007 02:46:54 +0000 http://macaulay.cuny.edu/seminars/orenstein07/?p=60#comment-36 I agree with you that a lot of contemporary art is forced and the message that the artist attempts to convey comes off as overly serious and feels more contrived that natural. Regardless of issues with modern art, your description of the bull head was very interesting. You really had a visceral reaction to it and seems justified considering your description. I was in Spain this past spring and attended a bull fight. I was torn on the subject because part of me wanted to see another culture and experience it firsthand, but part of me disagreed with the brutal treatment of the animals. The way you described the bull head sculpture really brought back the moment I saw the first bull enter the ring. Raised without human interaction, it was as though I was watching it emerge from over a hill in some pasture in the wild. The primal nature it exuded, through both its reactions to the matadors and the crowd, was incredible. This beast had no idea it was about to die, but it automatically became hostile when it picked up the energy of the crowd. I was sitting in the nose-bleeds, but you could clearly see its eyes and they were pitch black voids - it was though you could not penetrate its mind and discover its thoughts and fears, so it was as if it had no fears. It truly was pain and death wrapped into one, but it was also hope because it fought as though it felt it had a chance. Yet, once its head is mounted on a wall, that hope leaves the eyes (mostly because taxidermists replace eyes with glass ones). Perhaps the statement was that it was a bull in defeat, and already a prize? Most bulls do not draw blood from the matadors, it is the other way around. I agree with you that a lot of contemporary art is forced and the message that the artist attempts to convey comes off as overly serious and feels more contrived that natural. Regardless of issues with modern art, your description of the bull head was very interesting. You really had a visceral reaction to it and seems justified considering your description.
I was in Spain this past spring and attended a bull fight. I was torn on the subject because part of me wanted to see another culture and experience it firsthand, but part of me disagreed with the brutal treatment of the animals. The way you described the bull head sculpture really brought back the moment I saw the first bull enter the ring. Raised without human interaction, it was as though I was watching it emerge from over a hill in some pasture in the wild. The primal nature it exuded, through both its reactions to the matadors and the crowd, was incredible. This beast had no idea it was about to die, but it automatically became hostile when it picked up the energy of the crowd. I was sitting in the nose-bleeds, but you could clearly see its eyes and they were pitch black voids - it was though you could not penetrate its mind and discover its thoughts and fears, so it was as if it had no fears. It truly was pain and death wrapped into one, but it was also hope because it fought as though it felt it had a chance.
Yet, once its head is mounted on a wall, that hope leaves the eyes (mostly because taxidermists replace eyes with glass ones). Perhaps the statement was that it was a bull in defeat, and already a prize? Most bulls do not draw blood from the matadors, it is the other way around.

]]> By: kitty http://macaulay.cuny.edu/seminars/orenstein07/?p=60#comment-33 kitty Tue, 25 Sep 2007 23:33:57 +0000 http://macaulay.cuny.edu/seminars/orenstein07/?p=60#comment-33 well I think... that maybe not for you, but to some people, simple words can say a lot. reading the beginning of your entry, reminded me of this video: http://youtube.com/watch?v=WLaOzISHjSs i imagine that perhaps that's what the artist was trying to do for people... well I think… that maybe not for you, but to some people, simple words can say a lot. reading the beginning of your entry, reminded me of this video:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=WLaOzISHjSs
i imagine that perhaps that’s what the artist was trying to do for people…

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