Response No. 8

This week’s readings are especially of interest to me because they relate to what I have recently been reading about in my anthropology class. My class has been discussing the causes and effects of globalization, and we have observed India as an example. Over the last twenty years, India has economically exploded by accepting jobs of business process outsourcing (BPO). This is the reason why you are connected with an Indian receptionist when calling customer service; they work in the service industry to assist Americans, and by familiarizing themselves with American monetary/technological methods, have thus Westernized themselves.

India has come a long way in terms of development, as they have in social acceptance. However, the country still has a long way to go. Racial discrimination still prevails in the world today, although our American textbooks may tell us that such a way of thinking was a mistake in the past. We have created the ideas of race ourselves, and these notions will not go away unless we decide to eliminate them ourselves. What we do accomplish regarding this situation, however, is changing our perceptions on what makes a person “white”. According to Nancy Foner (Ch.5: “The Sting of Prejudice”), Southern Italians and Jews were not perceived as white because they had darker and so-called “unattractive” features not associated with whites. However, as newer dark-skinned immigrants made their way into the country’s borders, Americans redrew their qualifications of whiteness and extended the label of “Other” to the influx of African Americans, Hispanics, Asians, and West Indians. These distinctions were not just based on race. Foner states that “‘nonwhite’ immigrants who are not defined as black have had the most success in being recognized for their nationality, rather than their color, and in benefiting from the ‘whitening’ effects of class.”

Vilna Bashi Bobb’s article mentions that after West Indians were culture shocked by American standards of racism, they formed close-knit residential communities. These networks proved that there is indeed strength in numbers; they all worked together to find opportunities in the labor and housing markets for one another. They still faced problems regarding discrimination, but this social outlet proved an invaluable asset to have in terms of psychological and emotional support to get through such difficult times.

Identities of Indian Americans were similarly voiced in Johanna Lessinger’s article. They quickly assimilated into American culture – more so than past groups – due to their success in education and following careers. They, however, still faced much prejudice in “the land of the free.” As they tried to work more highly valued jobs and attempted to blend into suburban communities, the white population grew more and more tense. Thus, children were teased in schools and adults were physically attacked by hate groups such as the “Dotbusters”. Yet, groups were formed by the Indian Americans to counterattack these threats, including the Indians Youth Against Racism (YAAR) and the Guardian Angels.

Race is an ambiguous topic. Americans look for answers in black-and-white, but usually have difficulty with the shades of gray in between. Like Aurona, I believe that we can further achieve racial/ethnic equality in our Western society, but only if everyone is willing to contribute the needed effort. I know I am… are you?

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Response 4/5

As this weeks readings make clear, the often hostile response to differences of ethnicity is a huge part of both the modern and historical immigration experience in America.  In fact, dealing with ethnicity-based discrimination just might be one of the few truly universal aspects of immigrating to the U.S., one faced not only African Americans, but also the Irish, Italians, Jews, West Indians, Asians, et cetera.  And of course, as we touched upon in some of the previous readings about interracial neighborhood tensions, this was more than just majority-on-minority WASPs-against-the-world racism; the Irish-on-Italian discrimination was matched by the Asian sense of racial superiority, and the West Indian distaste at being labeled “black.”  Indeed, ethnic grouping was the source of much strife and suffering amongst immigrants across the decades.

However, I disagree to some extent with the implication of Bobb’s paper (on the West Indian ordeal with racism) that this is a primarily American problem.  Racism is an unfortunate fact throughout the world: between the Han and Uighur peoples in China, the Hutu and Tutsi in Rwanda… even in Trinidad and Tobago, where Bobb suggests racial differences amount to essentially nothing compared to economic stratifications, there is in fact a good deal of historical bad blood between Trinidadians of Indian, African, and European descent.  In fact, as my anthropology professor from last semester (who has done extensive field research Trinidad and Tobago on the subject) often pointed out, much of the political strategy there is based entirely on playing these three ethnicities off of each other, using the vast wells of interracial tension to win elections.

That point aside, it’s definitely important to learn about the way ethnicity and discrimination have shaped the immigrant experience in New York, and in the United States in general.  “The Sting of Prejudice” as Foner calls it, is truly and sadly one of the most significant and impactive characteristics of American immigration.

 

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4/5/11

This week’s readings were centered on an enigma of a topic – race. What is race really? Ask any anthropologist and his or her response will be something along the lines of “a figment of our imaginations.” It’s interesting really. Any other topic we read about so far this semester could have been the theme of a class on its own, but after a few lectures and papers, people may have started to lose interest. Although this could also be the case for race, a class discussing race and its inherent issues would still be more than worthwhile. Put simply, RACE DOES NOT EXIST! We use race as a means of discriminating against people casting people aside. Some people do this because they are incredibly ethnocentric, and other people just derive an unfathomable sense of pleasure from it. My professor from cultural anthropology last semester began his first lecture by saying “The things that make us the same are the things that make us different.” We are not meant to all be the same, and maybe one day, everyone will have an appreciation of these differences.

In this chapter of From Ellis Island to JFK, Foner delves into the challenges faced by many groups of immigrants. She spends a considerable portion of this chapter discussing Hispanic and Asian groups. Generally, people see two categories within race – White and Black. Hispanic and Asian immigrants don’t consider themselves as part of either of these “races;” however, ethnocentric whites are quick to label them. Although they are distinct cultural groups, they are not necessarily races and don’t want to be perceived as such. Foner tells of an interesting story – that of Luis Rodriguez. She was in a waiting room, waiting to be called in for a job interview, and was not recognized as the interviewer because she didn’t “look Hispanic.” Well, it’s not wonder she didn’t look Hispanic! Race is a made up concept – there is no genetic basis.

Additionally, both Foner and Bobb allude to the shock that immigrants experience upon arrival in America, especially the West Indians. Back in their home country, they are not only not categorized as Black, but they also see themselves to be of a higher social status than Blacks. Also, for some immigrants, they don’t have such stringent class distinctions in their home countries. According to Bobb, “In a less developed economy that works in the favor of only a very few, nearly everyone is in the same poor socioeconomic boat.” When they come to America, they are not given the same opportunities as whites and are often grouped with Blacks. Bobb writes, “No matter what the response, they all come to realize that racism is a central feature deeply rooted in the very fabric of American life and social structure.” The racism in the United States is beyond anything people can imagine before arriving here, and it is only after arriving that it becomes completely understandable. Still, people say, because the possibilities for upward mobility and achievement are nonetheless numerous.

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4/5/11

“The Sting of Prejudice.” What an appropriate title. As my classmates have said before me, the issue of prejudice and discrimination is largely seen, not only in the past, but in the present as well. Coming to America, the majority of immigrants are forced to face one or another form of discrimination. This is inevitable anywhere. In any country, those who were there first feel intruded when other people begin to move in, and so they create a sort of defense mechanism; pre-concieved notions of their own superiority over others. In order to be superior to others, they must find a difference between themselves and outsiders to claim their higher position: their race. Americans at this time were mostly WASPs: White Anglo-Saxon Protestants. And this is exactly what they decided to hold against immigrants who were, of course, not the same race as them.

Over the years, the government tried to quell the American people, and to ease racism. However, these American people didn’t want to hear it; They had their opinions and they stuck to them. When restrictions were placed on them, they found more discreet ways of continuing their prejudices. Foner shows an example of this, when, in 1913, a NYS law stated that public places were not allowed to withhold admittance because of race, creed or color. Rather than continue placing their signs (“No Jews or Dogs Admitted Here”), resorts and private clubs began to only serve “‘resticted clientele,'” continuing to shut out the Jews, without outwardly saying so (148).

Bobb’s article concerning West Indians shows another effect of racism, the idea that all others are the same. Even though West Indians truly are not “black,” because of their skin color, and the Americans’ uncaring attitude, they were considered to be the same as blacks. The American people showed their unwillingness to even try to accept others-in doing this they further presented their careless attitude and their idea that no one else was good enough. By clumping together different groups into one category, it made it easier for the Americans to discriminate against them, claiming that they were against blacks, rather than having to make a list of every different ethnicity (African Americans, West Indians, Guyanese, etc).

These immigrants, even though they are constantly being pushed down by the society they are now a part of, they struggle to fit into the ideal group. Whereas many Hispanics and blacks have trouble doing this because of their original low status, Asians have a much easier time. Asians are generally part of a higher class when they immigrate to America, and because of this, they have an easier time meshing together with the whites, and taking jobs that require higher skills.

As Silky mentions in her post, I also believe that there is some hope for the future. Over the years, we have been able to lower, but not completely vanquish, the amount of discrimination towards immigrants. Our nation strives towards equality, and hopefully, maybe, someday we’ll get there.

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Response 8 – Race, Class, and Ethnicity

This weeks readings, I agree, cover a very sensitive topic- race, class, and ethnicity. Although being a controversial topic it is very much prevalent since the formation of this “land of immigrants.” I believe that hate crimes , discrimination etc. are inevitable in such a country comprised of several different ethnicities. Thus, it is obvious that racism will arise and we have all seen this since the beginning of immigration – it continues to be a part of this country, and without a doubt, will continue. However, it is important to keep in mind that race itself is socially constructed and it is the people themselves who allow for this to happen. And of course, there is nothing in particular one can blame for this.

Therefore, in response to Aurona regarding the slow change against discrimination against hate crimes, I agree that there might be some hope -” With the efforts from all people from different various ethnicities I think it is possible to create equal opportunities for everyone.” However, like Praveena I believe that the change starts within the people, then only the government will be able to facilitate the change/movement. Since race is socially constructed it is important for the people to first acknowledge and act upon racism.

All in all,  from this weeks readings we were able to understand some of the roots or causes of racism against certain immigrant groups. Also, the reasons and ways  immigrant groups tried to “fit in” or create their “racial identities” was also a common aspect about the readings.

 

 

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Response 4/5

I agree with Aurona that this week’s general theme was racial identity in neighborhoods and as Foner titles her chapter “the Sting of Prejudice”.  We see different ethnic backgrounds coming to the United States in order to pursue the American Dream and so many are surprised to see the high levels of racism in America. I always go back to wondering how such high levels of racism came to be and why nativist were so truly xenophobic of other nations that sought opportunity. There are so many factors but one idea that I think of is the idea of nativist being prideful that they are a part of the dominant group of White Anglo-Saxon Protestants in the nation. This group probably felt that since there descendants were the first to arrive in America then every opportunity should be for them and no one else at all.  As seen in Foner, even other ethnicities with fair skin were still considered an other to these natives and still were subject to their mockery.

Although Foner does say that the racism in the United States is done subtly, to me the racism was still directly seen. In what way can a sign saying “No Jews or Dogs Allowed” be seen as subtle. That is direct racism in my opinion and for different ethnic groups experiencing this treatment in a country where people are meant to be treated equally is horrible.  No matter the race, people want to have success, achievement, and opportunity, which is one reason why different ethnicities came to America in the first place. Despite having similar motives to the natives and some being highly educated, these groups still could not have the respect of those in America because they were different. By no respect I mean some Americans did not treat different ethnic groups well at all to the point where if you were somewhat dark you were black and that was it. Ethnic identities were not even recognized by Americans at all.

As seen by the readings, the races that were in between the white and black spectrum were the races who were at times better off and at times saved from that “Sting of Prejudice”. Despite most West Indians having a good education, they were still not seen as able to advance because of their dark complexion. Nevertheless, the West Indians still did their best to confront the American Dream and some even went to the suburbs. Just to read about different ethnicities still wanting to confront the American Dream no matter what obstacles come their way is amazing. Hopefully one day will come where racism will be completely behind us and immigrants can easily pursue the American Dream for themselves and their families.

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Response#8 (For 4/5/11)

The readings this week centered around a very stimulating topic as it exists today in America. Prejudice, racial discrimination, it’s such a big taboo as Foner states it, yet like all taboos, it has such a big impact on society. That being said, I was attached to the fact that all the readings were so honest and blatant about this factor in American society. Foner can easily seem like the most shocking reading this week. Amongst its usual statistics and “matter-of-fact” ways of speaking, chapter five a Foner had an interesting point-blank truthful way of discussing the matter.

Aurona brought up some points which I wanted to address. “The hopes are that discrimination and prejudice doesn’t affect future generations. As Lessinger talked about there have been groups started to remove common misconceptions about Indians. For instance in Columbia University a group called “Indian Youth Against Racism” rose when there were recurring instances of racism among the Indian community in the late 1980’s.” Lessinger’s mention of the youth population’s reactions actually made me remember something that was discussed in class a while back. Future generations seem to take the initiative before their older relatives gain the courage to. I enjoy this notion that we take the lead in fighting against racially-charged incidents. Going beyond that, I take great pride in the fact that we seem to be breaking down this systematic racial codification slowly (VERY SLOWLY). We agreed in class that as the generations go by, we are becoming more tolerant towards one another. The mention of IYAR/YAAR shows just how active young adults are towards racial discrimination, and this sparks optimism. Another point I wanted to address briefly without getting into it was: “Obviously it’s definitely going to be a challenge but I think equal access to resources among different groups is a must for any change to occur. I think that this change has to start from the government down.” I actually think that change starts within the people, at least within this case. The government taking action and passing legislation won’t stop people from discriminating against one another (think de facto segregation). If the citizens don’t have the will, then actions taken by the government won’t do much.

With so much immigration being involved in the American equation, it provides a great issue when “codifying” everyone based on this white-black dichotomy. A lot of immigrants pouring into the country do not neatly fit into either category. However, it seems there is some sort of effort put into MAKING immigrants fit into one category or the other. “They don’t discriminate because you’re West Indian. They are discriminating because you’re black. Period” (Bobb 218).  According to Foner, Asians are often viewed as the “model minority,” or the “most Anglo-Saxon of the current wave” (162). Both quotes represent this notion of trying to “fit” immigrants into this black-white dichotomy. It was mentioned repeatedly in Foner that despite the fact that West Indians and native blacks try to separate themselves, they are often seen as one and the same. Asians, who are often viewed as the “yellow race,” are slowly being molded into the “white” category. If I remember correctly, Foner even suggested that in time to come, they may be viewed as white (the same way Italians and Jews can be seen as such these days).

I am so glad that we managed to cover such a controversial issue (an issue which is still approached with a “hush-hush!” modus operandi) in this class. The readings this week managed to shed light on this issue. It wasn’t seen as a “white versus black” sort of discrimination. In fact, Lessinger points out that there was a period of confusion when Indians were the victims of hate crimes; because it wasn’t a white group attacking a black group, ths making it harder to immediately call it a hate crime. The readings this week focused not only on how certain groups were discriminated against, but also how the members within those same groups discriminated against others. Indians refused to acknowledge any Indians living in the Caribbean; Asians felt superior to other immigrants. The list can go on. Discrimination isn’t a one sided war. It goes both ways and starts simply with a fear of the unknown.

I can’t wait to awkwardly discuss this in class on Tuesday. There will be lots more tension for Professor Vellon to poke fun at, as we uncomfortably try to talk around issues that society has discouraged us to deeply analyze. Then again, I’m probably being dramatic.

 

 

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Spark!

A common theme among the three readings this week was racial identities among different immigrant groups. Bobb’s readings focused on the West Indian community and their perception of Unites States in terms of race and class. Lessinger talked about the American-Indian (Asian) immigrants and how they identify themselves among American society. Finally Foner tied these two readings together by discussing many ethnic groups such as Hispanic, Indian, Pacific Islanders, White etc and relating their American experience to issues of race, class, and status.

Bobb interviewed and researched the West Indian perception of race and class in America. There were a wide range of responses regarding whether or not West Indians felt discriminated in America and how they dealt with it. Racial slurs didn’t affect many West Indians until they came to America. I thought that this finding was surprising yet understandable. In their homeland the majority of people were West Indian and very few were White. However in terms of how people saw one another, the major distinction amongst them was money-related. Even though Whites held high positions in their countries, so did many black West Indians. However, when many of these people came to America, they felt shocked at how divided the county was in terms of race. As a result, many West Indians tried to avoid racial tension by staying in their communities, which created a network for them. It was interesting to see that the children of the immigrants felt a lot more discrimination than the immigrants themselves. The first generation responded to this by saying because they were in contact with a larger community in schools, social events, etc. unlike their parents who went straight to work, they noticed racial divisions more frequently. In Lessingers reading, Indian immigrants also went through a process of assimilation like the West Indians.

Lessinger talks about how the Indian community incorporated themselves in the American life. Many of the Indian immigrants succeeded in getting a professional job and actually created a pretty good standard of living for themselves. However there was always this fear that some Indians had which was being associated with the blacks. This was also seen amongst many other immigrant groups because they were struggling to create their own identities in the United States. Furthermore a lot of people immigrated here and stayed with their own communities and also created a sort of network similar to that of West Indians. I think that wherever we go, we see that neighborhoods are divided (to an extent) by ethnic means. Even when we walked around East Harlem we saw this nationalistic pride on different blocks. There were Italian stores and flags hanging on one street while a whole different Mexican theme was erupting on another. It just goes to show that humans like to group together with those they have the most similarities with. Especially for immigrants this was an important tool they could use for their advantage. When I asked my family about where and why they immigrated to in New York the answer was Woodside because the community there consisted of people who had similar religious and cultural values that they were accustomed to back home. This theme runs through almost all immigrant groups that have come to America throughout history.

I enjoyed reading Foner’s chapter on race because it addresses the issue of race and class among various populations, making it easy to see a common ground among all immigrants. “The Sting of Prejudice,” the name of the chapter itself fits in perfectly with the subject matter, as it relates to each immigrant group who faces hardship and discrimination while trying to create a new life for themselves and their family. Its pretty interesting to see how the definition of “white” has changed over the course of history. As Foner explains there was a huge amount of racism towards the Jews and Italians when they were first coming in. For instance when she talks about how there were signs saying “No Jews or Dogs allowed,” it struck me because such slurs were openly expressed and accepted. Today almost any Jew or Italian is considered to be white in the eyes of many people. However we see discrimination against other groups today instead of the Jews and Italians (To an extent of course. Unfortunately, there are still cases of racism against all groups among some people). It seems as if any group who tried or are trying to assimilate into American society had to or is going through a similar “prejudice sting.”

The hopes are that discrimination and prejudice doesn’t affect future generations. As Lessinger talked about there have been groups started to remove common misconceptions about Indians. For instance in Columbia University a group called “Indian Youth Against Racism” rose when there were recurring instances of racism among the Indian community in the late 1980’s. With the efforts from all people from different various ethnicities I think it is possible to create equal opportunities for everyone. Obviously it’s definitely going to be a challenge but I think equal access to resources among different groups is a must for any change to occur. I think that this change has to start from the government down.

Finally, I think that the issue of race and class is a sensitive one and has been affecting immigrants since the first wave of immigration. People have a choice to comply with the standards put on them or to rise up and make a change and fight for what they truly believe in. By looking at the similarities rather than differences among our society, all groups of people can overcome the pressures of society and create peaceful and humane communities that are willing to accept and understand each other for a common cause (A little cheesy, I know but I still believe it can happen!).

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