Response-February 8th

When I first began reading the articles, I realized that it had never occurred to me that there is technically no ethnic group called “American”.  This fact struck me as very odd, because for all of my life, I have just accepted the idea that I am an American.  And I say this with a deeper meaning than that of just the country of my birth.  For me, the idea of an “American” has taken on a much larger meaning.  It defines who I was, who I am, and who I will always be.

I agree with Ashley in her disregard for Park’s assumption that all immigrants come to America only to leave behind their ethnic past and culture, assimilating entirely to the American lifestyle.  Many – dare I say ‘most’ – immigrants are coming to America to make a better life for themselves and their families, becoming Americans yet never losing the part of them “on the left side of the hyphen.”  I think that immigrants of long ago felt more pressure to assimilate quickly due to the sheer fact that racism and discrimination was a very popular thing among so called “native-born” Americans.  In more recent times, however, I feel that immigrants do not feel the same need to fit in.  American society is embracing the many different cultures coming to this country, and as was stated in the Kasinitz article, the ethnic groups and cultures are meshing very well with one another, creating an entirely new group altogether.

As Ashley and William said, I feel that America can now be seen as more of a “salad bowl” rather than a “melting pot”, which to me, is a very cool thing.  I mean, how boring would life in America be if everyone just melted into society, shedding their unique cultural backgrounds to become exactly like everyone else?

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Response- Spark#1

I agree with the concept of immigration that Ashley discussed in her spark. For example, Ashley talked about the salad bowl concept of immigration; this concept shows that even though people did immigrate to the United States, they still held onto their culture and past.  I thought that this was true because as you look at immigration today, there are so many cultures that preserve their ethnicity without completely assimilating to an American way of life. However, I thought of immigration and how much it changed over time because in the past, it was not even close to  salad bowl.  I think of the Horsman article  which discusses the famous doctrine of the ideal American being a White Anglo-Saxon Protestant.  To me, that doctrine was what promoted this idea of assimilation and caused so much conflict in the beginning years of immigration; if you were ethnically different from the WASP ideology during early immigration, you were looked down upon because you did not meet that criteria.   Although immigrants did come in enormous numbers, at times quotas and exclusions were placed on immigrants because they failed to meet the WASP criteria; it was during these years of immigration that immigrants did not have the opportunity to show uniqueness because it was not even encouraged. During this time, I could not see immigration as a salad bowl, I see being what Park said in the Gerstle article; that immigrants assimilated in order to strive for something that they could not find in their own country.  Immigrants wanted to achieve a hope of success and live that American dream and if there ethnicity had to be hyphenated with American and have assimilation then so be it.

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Spark

In high school, we learned two theories behind immigration in America – the idea of the melting pot, and the idea of the salad bowl. The melting pot implies that people change and assimilate based on the traditions of their neighbors, while the salad bowl is used to describe an America where people reside in the same country, but are unique, holding onto and displaying their pasts. Although I used to think that coming to America meant that people must leave behind their previous lives and cultures, in reality, the fact that they have the right to do the complete opposite is precisely what draws people to immigrate here.

As far as the Gerstle article, I agree with Handlin when he disagrees with Park. Park writes believes that out of necessity, all people eventually assimilate in order to get along with one another and achieve. Yes, people learn about the politics and laws of America in order to live and work according to the constitution; however, many don’t assimilate. Many neighborhoods are dominated by one or two ethnic groups in which people practice the same religion and hold on to the same traditions. Similarly, in reaction to the Walzer article, I disagree that people who are culturally anonymous (meaning they let go of their past ethnic identity in order to becoming part of an American melting pot) are necessarily better Americans. While he provides a valid argument that during the American Revolution the loyalists held on to their past and were antagonistic to the goals of the colonies, today, many “hyphenated Americans” aren’t supporting countries that are enemies of America, so their allegiance to other countries and cultures has no bearing on the politics of America. Additionally, America doesn’t have a draft since enough Americans are willing to enlist in the army, even though their family’s past is based in a different country.

I think that whether American citizens associate themselves with another nation in addition to the U.S., or if they simply view themselves as American-Americans, they face difficulties in America, but work hard to overcome them. The case study shows the negative consequences of discrimination and stereotypes on immigrants, but also gives evidence of support that is there for them, for example, affirmative action. The case study also found that second generation immigrants are more successful than their native born counterparts. I think this is so since their immigrant parents instill in them a drive to succeed. There are new “ethnic niches”: The jobs that certain ethnic groups are beginning to hold show a higher level of education than ever before. Immigrants maintaining their old cultures are able to be successful in America.

In the Walzer article, Gleason writes “An American nationality does in fact exist”, but the very words of the constitution “separation of church and state” preclude America from having a specific national religion and ethnic traditions. The principles that govern America and that have allowed it to stand the test of time, are the freedoms that allow people to practice any religion they desire and to live the lives they want. After all, wasn’t that the reason the Puritans came in the first place?

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Online Discussion – Schedule

Online Blog Discussion Leaders

Online Blog Discussion Leaders (“Sparks”):

February 8 Context: Race, Assimilation, and Ethnicity

Gregory C. Antonelli

Ashley Barlev

February 15            Peopling of NY: Colonial Period

Marinna Bradfield

Ashley Cruz

February 22            Peopling of NY: Old and New Immigrants

William Dobie

Toniann Fanizzi

March 1            Ethnicity and Neighborhood

Elizabeth Fruchter

Rebecca Gagliardotto

March 8            Immigrant Labor, Work, and Economy

Eden Goykadosh

Jacqueline Helmig

March 15            Neighborhood: “Italian East Harlem”

S. Katarla

Alexa Lempel

March 29            Neighborhood:  “Spanish Harlem”

Shirley Mak

Maryam Mudasir

April 5            Race, Class, & Ethnicity

Aurona Qamar

April 12            Changing Neighborhoods, Urban Renewal, and Race/Color

Alexandra Nicoletti

Praveena Persaud

May 10            Race, Class, and Contested Turf

Jessica Sacker

Shan Xu

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