Ellis Island Chapter 3

In this chapter, Foner discusses the jobs immigrants get when they come to the United States, and how this has changed over time.  In the beginning of the 1900s, pretty much all immigrants would get lower level, jobs, with terrible working conditions and very low pay.  This, coupled with the lack of education, prohibited immigrants from being able to move up and get better jobs, and by extension improve their quality of life.  This is because most of the immigrants coming over in the early twentieth century did not have much, if not any, education, so they  were not able to get better paying jobs.  Today, a lot of immigrants who come to the United States do have an education.  However, many are still finding themselves working in lower paying jobs.  There are a few reasons for this.  If an immigrant is undocumented, they need to work off the books, meaning they cannot get a nice, stable job.  They do not want to risk deportation.  Another reason is because America often does not hold a college degree from certain countries up to par with degrees earned here, so the person would not be qualified for their intended occupation unless they went through the schooling process again in America.  Even with these factors, though, there are immigrants that come to the United States today who are able to find good, higher paying jobs.

From Ellis Island to JFK Chapter 3

In chapter 3 of Ellis Island to JFK, Nancy Foner discusses the topic of immigrant occupations. Foner emphasizes the differences between jobs taken by immigrants in the past and in the present. During the early twentieth century, many immigrants took up low level occupation. This pattern of employment is owed to the fact that typical immigrants of the early 1900’s had little education. Furthermore, many of these twentieth century immigrants could speak English fluently. However, immigrants were content with working in laborious jobs that offered low wages. The industrial sector was  expanding in New York City, so jobs of this nature were relatively easy to come by.

The occupations current immigrants take vary widely when compared to immigrants of the past. Although many immigrants continue to be hired in low level occupations, some immigrants enter the United States with higher education under their belts. These immigrants seek out skilled professions. However, such immigrants do not enter the the city and immediately find the jobs they have degrees for. Rather, these immigrants often hold temporary jobs that they may be overqualified for.

Foner Chapters 3 and 4

In Chapter 3, Nancy Foner discusses the work of immigrants and how jobs compared between immigrants from the past and present. Networking is a key tool for immigrants seeking jobs and many were recommended by family members or friends. This process is beneficial to employers because there is a constant influx of people being referenced to the employers and immigrants obtain jobs easily. The result of this was that certain industries became dominated by a specific race, such as the Chinese garment factories. Immigrants originally were able to work in jobs that did not require extensive knowledge of English or a formal education. Degrees from a foreign country were not enough proof to validate the same position in America. Even nowadays, many immigrants who held high positions back home are unable to obtain the same position here.

Chapter 4 is about the lives of immigrant women in the work place. Women were not allowed to work and if she was, hen her income was not allowed to be higher than the income of the male in the family. Surprisingly, children were able to work since 12 years old regardless of their gender. It was only when a female got married that she was required to stay home. What was even more interesting to me was that working daughters in the past contributed a high percentage of income to the family. The Jewish daughters contributed about 40% to the household income. Times have changed in the sense that immigrant women now have training and education for different fields. Gender inequality still persists because women still receive less pay than men. Furthermore, women have to contend with household responsibilities on top of their full times which makes it difficult to balance.

A (Not-So-Rare) Role Reversal

In chapters 3 & 4, Foner discusses two subsectors of the American working class that are seldom considered by the very patrons they serve: immigrant workers and female employees. Ironically, throughout American history both immigrants and women have been crucial to the survival of the US economy. Originally, immigrants were underpaid for taking on lowly tasks that the average American-born worker would refuse to do. These jobs included harsh conditions, conniving supervisors and very little room for promotions or growth. Although many immigrant works were treated as disposable entities, this was due to the fact that so many immigrants were available and desperate for work; had these immigrants not been present to support the lower tiers of the US workforce, the stagnancy they suffered would have been passed onto the native American youth as they were forced to fill these jobs rather than peruse education and more appealing careers. Women also played a similar role in completing the necessary, but unappealing or unflattering tasks, (for example, dress making in a hot, crowded factory for hours without breaks) and even continued on to fill the jobs left behind by soldiers once the US men and boys were shipped off to war.

Today, although both female and immigrant employees are still stereotyped and discriminated against, and increasing emphasis on the importance of these special interest groups is becoming more and more apparent. Many affirmative action scholarships and employment-assistance programs favor female and/or international students, to such a point that many Americans complain about feeling disadvantaged and unable to compete. In the event of a recession, when Americans are more desperate that ever to find work, more and more jobs are outsourced to foreign employees who offer a wider range of/better quality skills, often for a competitively lower price. The very groups that were originally shoved to the bottom of the employment pool are finally beginning to float.

Foner Chapters 3 and 4 Responses

In chapter 3, Foner discusses the jobs immigrants took in the past compared to those that come today. One very important example of modern day immigrant jobs is the jobs of the ilegal immigrants. It easy for bosses to take advantage of illegal immigrants especially, because these are the workers who are undocumented and therefore are in peril of being discovered and facing consequences for their being in the US illegally. Because of this, these workers are willing to do low key, low standard job at very low wages. Employers take advantage of this and make these immigrants work long hours at small pay. Although they are exploited, these workers take on jobs that most Americans would not want to, but that are essential for running our society. An interesting fact Foner mentions is that modern day immigrants come as more skilled workers, and therefore take on higher tiered jobs. In the past however immigrants coming to the US took on lower class jobs. This is an interesting change and it makes me wonder about what it says for the future of the US. If more higher skilled immigrants are coming over and getting higher rank jobs, what does this say for Americans? Are we going to have to compete more and more for jobs that are already so competitive?

In chapter 4, Foner goes on to discuss changes in the role of women in New York society. When women immigrated to the US, often time that did not mean more freedom. Since many families brought their cultures with them when they came to New York, for a long time a woman’s role in society stayed the same. Daughters however were able to get more jobs and freedom by going and working in factories to help provide for their families. However, even when women did finally start entering the workforce, they were by no means equal to men. When women first started getting jobs they worked in factories, and eventually later on as secretaries and such. Both of these exemplify that for a long time women were not trusted with major jobs, and were not even expected to have an education above high school. Thankfully things have changed, and today women can get an eduction equal to men. However, injustices still exist in some fields between men and women, and some jobs still do not ensure equal pay for men and women, and sadly discrimination still does exist.

 

From Ellis Island to JFK (Foner) Chapter 1-7

Chapter 1: In the first chapter of “From Ellis Island to JFK”, Foner writes that “immigrants still often come to escape oppressive governments and poor economic conditions…many newcomers are from the ranks of their home country’s professional and middle classes.” She also mentions that there are immigrants who are “born into a wealthy professional family,” from their native country. Is she suggesting that this status is never maintained once arriving in America? At another point, she adds that, “Television…bring[s] images of American society and American goods that are reinforced by movies and radio programs.” According to her, this only helps immigrants want to come to America, but that, “aspirations [created by the media’s portrayal of America] cannot be fulfilled at home.” I wonder if these immigrants ever come to the realization that America itself is not what it appears to be in the media.

Chapter 2: Later, in the second chapter, Foner points out that “[t]he expansion of New York City’s public transportation system, improved highways, and the automobile revolution…have made the outer boroughs and suburban areas more accessible to downtown districts than they were a hundred years ago” (Foner 48-49). I think this point is interesting in the growth of inter-borough transport, but I’m also interested in seeing how this benefitted immigrants particularly. A totally different point that interested me is when she groups Asian immigrants closer with Whites than with the segregated group of Hispanics that are treated more in line with Blacks. “[I]n general, Asians have avoided the poorest areas in New York City and the region, and they are less segregated from whites than are blacks and Hispanics,” she says.

Chapter 3: In the third chapter, Foner points out that “alongside the unlettered and unskilled are immigrant doctors, nurses, engineers, and Ph.Ds.” I think it is interesting that well-educated immigrants often lose everything they leave behind, even their experience and studies, when coming to America, even if its not something they want. Another point that strikes out to me is that African-Americans are considered in the same immigrant pool even though this group has been in America for years since there has been no mass migration from Africa since the slave trades. Also, Foner writes that Chinese men tend to work in restaurants while women tend to work in the garment industry. She noes that “compared to garment work, restaurant jobs are more stable and remunerative, thereby allowing men to fill the role of principal family breadwinner.” I think it is interesting that she doesn’t really point out if the jobs are ever filled in vice versa, and if men and women take on these specific jobs because it has something to do with gender-roles association.

Chapter 4: In Chapter four, Foner writes that “Jewish and Italian women typically followed men – husbands, fiancés, and fathers, who led the way.” The drastic change in immigrant women’s roles between the waves of immigration is fascinating. It is surprising that many immigrant families quickly adjust their practices to their meet their new needs, and adjust their gender-roles to the gender-roles in American society. Its interesting that immigrants who come from patriarchal societies shift roles once they arrive in the United States.

Chapter 5: The fifth chapter presents sort of a shift in tone. Foner writes that “genetic arguments about inferior races have those wanting to cut immigration from southern and eastern Europe a scientific sanction; restriction against the new immigration seemed like a biological imperative.” Does this remind anyone of a Nazi-like selection of an ideal race? Foner also mentions that “in the post-World War I years, many colleges, universities, and medical schools adopted quota systems that set limits on Jewish admission.” This only helps to prove my resemblance.

Chapter 6: Then in Chapter six, Foner lends her attention to “transnational households.” Is she referring to immediate families only, or does the term “transnational household” also apply to extended family? How far removed can the ties be, and still be considered “transnational”? Does this refer to any ties between family members in different countries? She quotes Patricia Pessar, who states that “it merely requires a walk to the corner newsstand, a flick of the radio or television dial to a Spanish-language station, or the placement of an overseas call.” This is an interesting point because it makes us think in retrospect to ho we receive our news today in a world of Twitter, Facebook, and text messages.

Chapter 7: Finally, in Chapter seven, Foner writes that “a great proportion of Italian students dropped out [of school] altogether before the legal working-paper age, as compared to Russian Jews, who were more likely to complete the minimum grades required.” What are the reasons for this difference? Is it a difference in culture? It seems unlikely that it is a difference in social status and race, because Foner writes that both Russian Jews and Italians were treated as second class citizens. She also mentions that “in contemporary New York, most immigrant parents, in all groups, arrive with positive attitudes toward education and high educational expectations for their children.” Is this attitude towards education shared by most immigrant parents throughout the country?