New York vs Los Angeles

Zhou, Kim, and Chin’s “The Transformation of Chinese American Communities: New York vs. Los Angeles” discusses how different today’s incoming immigrants are from immigrants of the past. Modern immigrants have moved away from the “huddled masses” image that characterizes past waves of immigrants. The reasons as to why immigrants choose to leave their homelands has undoubtedly changed overtime. Many immigrants of old left their home countries to escape all sorts of persecution or to escape poverty. Modern Chinese immigrants are not arriving in the United States already having acquired degrees of higher education. Furthermore, modern Chinese immigrants in New York and Los Angeles are no longer  bounded to strictly Chinese only neighborhoods. In fact, many Chinese immigrants have no problem with settling down into diverse suburban areas. However, this is not to say that predominantly Chinese areas no longer exist. A slew of satellite Chinatowns still exist, but these areas are becoming more and more diverse with each new wave of immigrants. Satellite Chinatowns such as Flushing are not limited to a solely Chinese population. In fact, many of these areas are home to a wide variety of backgrounds.

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I found it very interesting the change in reasons for coming to the U.S. Before, most immigrants came from the lower social class, such as peasants and farmers. They were driven by the possibility of achieving a better life for their children and family in the U.S., a chance to rise in social mobility. More recent immigrants, however, are motivated by a completely different reason. Recent immigrants are of the middle-class with an education level. Usually, they are forced to immigrate to America seeking political or religious asylum.

Because the majority of immigrants now are of a higher social class, they settle in more affluent areas, creating ethnoburbs. They create diverse and economically stable communities. Also, immigrants are able to obtain higher paying jobs with fewer competition because of their higher education levels.

NY vs LA

We all know that the older immigrants were more unskilled, uneducated and poor compared to today’s college degree holding middle to upper class immigrants, but what I really found interesting was the growth and differences between of the satellite Chinatowns and the original Chinatown in New York City.  The older immigrants that settled in Manhattan’s Chinatown were mainly from Guangdong Province, thus making it a Cantonese speaking community. Today there is a bigger diversity of Chinese immigrants from different origins and regions, so they all don’t necessarily share the same cultures and experiences. One of the biggest differences is language, so those who speak Mandarin were more likely to settle outside of Chinatown. This is the case for the immigrant community in Flushing. Many Taiwanese came to Flushing since they lacked ties to the old-timers in Chinatown, and since they were better well off, they were able to move right away outside of Manhattan. Many other coethnic Chinese followed, and some from Chinatown as well, seeing it a move up socio-economically. The migration to Flushing has caused it to become diverse not only among the Chinese community, but among other Asian ethnicities as well.

Response: NY vs LA

According to Zhou, Chin, and Kim’s “The Transformation of Chinese American Communities: New York vs. Los Angeles”, the classic immigration idea of poor, underprivileged people moving to America to find a better life is becoming less and less relevant to today’s group of immigrants. That is not to say, of course, that this reason does not apply, but rather the extent to which new immigrants suffer in their home countries is nowhere near the same degree to which they suffered in the past. The Chinese immigrants of old were often unskilled, uneducated, and came from poor economic backgrounds. The newer wave of Chinese immigrants often have already attained a college degree and come from middle to upper class standing in their home country. In the past, most, if not all, Chinese immigrants flocked to urban centers with a majority Chinese population, i.e. Manhattan’s Chinatown. Nowadays, in both New York and LA, Chinese immigrants are moving straight to more suburban areas outside the metropolis. The diversion of immigration to other areas has caused the growth of satellite Chinatowns in NYC’s other boroughs such as Flushing and Sunset Park. In LA, ethnoburbs, or suburbs with growing minority populations, are becoming more predominant as immigrants of different ethnicities move there. These new immigrant communities provide the proper resources and opportunities for immigrants to prosper and flourish, which makes sense why they have become more attractive to newcomers from China and other areas around the world.

Zhou, Chin, Kim Article Review

The article on Asian immigrants was very interesting. Immigrants nowadays are different from the previous “tired, poor, huddled masses”, many of them now come to the country as educated middle-class individuals. It is through these middle class individuals that the poor class, the ones who usually cannot afford to immigrate to the US by themselves, can come and settle in established “ethnoburbs” through the help of their middle class friends and relatives. It is also interesting to find out how the established Asians in the US tend to not want to associate themselves with the lower class Asian newcomers even to the extent of outmigration because these people tend to bring along bad old habits associated with their home countries. These bad habits can make the area both overcrowded and unsafe. In a sense, this is natural because people tend to want to move up the social ladder or move into places where people can relate to them. This is why the established or middle-class Asians may want to move towards more upscale areas whilst the new lower class immigrants may want to move into the already established ethnic communities, where a huge population of lower class immigrants are concentrated. Even in schools, I tend to see Asian immigrants keeping to themselves in small cliques instead of hanging out with other later generation Asian Americans. The only solution to this problem unfortunately, is assimilation, changing the way one lives in order to fit in with society.

New York Vs. Los Angeles

The article “The Transformation of Chinese American Communities: New York vs. Los Angeles” by Zhou, Chin, and Kim compares the ethnic Chinatowns of both New York as well as Los Angeles. The article also continues on to compare the difference between “old” and “new” as well. In the talk about “old” and “new”, many differences are mentioned. They mention that the older Chinese immigrants, who came to the United States years ago, tended to settle in areas of their own ethnic groups. These old Chinese immigrants were also not as skilled.

The newer immigrants however were the exact opposite. The New Chinese immigrants who arrived to the United States tended to settle in places that did not bring back ties to their ethnic and cultural background. Instead of settling in an area, such as Chinatown, which was full of Chinese immigrants, these new waves of immigrants settled in places such as near Central Park. This was something I found to be extremely interesting. Why would these new immigrants settle in places where they may not feel comfortable, or at home? These new immigrants were also more skilled, and arrived to the country with a well-educated background, some were even exceeding other Americans in their academic studies. So if these people were so well educated, why did they decide to come to America to start a whole new and different life, when in China they would have probably had an amazing standard of living?

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What I enjoyed about this article was that while on the onset it seemed to be comparing New York Chinatown with the Chinatown of Los Angeles, it ended up delving into the differences between “old timer” immigrants and younger immigrants. These differences included why they came, how they were accepted, and the jobs they chose, or rather, were allowed to choose. Because of the Chinese Exclusion Acts the old timers were inclined to stay within their old ethnic circles. Contrarily, the newer generation of immigrants were able to merge with other ethnicities and live in harmony and prosperity. They were more accepted and had greater opportunities.

This distinction is very apparent in my own family. My grandparents are both first generation immigrants. Upon arriving in New York they stayed within their own social circles and interacted primarily with people of a similar ethnicity to their own. Although they are not Chinese and did not have any exclusionary laws against them, they often suffered discrimination because of their immigrant status. They, therefore, chose to remain in tight uni-ethnic areas and did not have much of a connection or any interaction with people of other ethnicities. Because of this my grandparents were limited in job opportunities as well as social growth. They also harbor a bit of racism that stems from their unfamiliarity of people from other races and nationalities. My Aunt is a first generation immigrant as well, however, being from the newer generation of immigrants she is not looked down upon as much as my grandparents were. Because of this she was able to thrive with people of other ethnicities.

Zhou, Chin, Kim Response

In the article, “The Transformation of Chinese American Communities: New York vs. Los Angeles”, authors Zhou, Chin, and Kim compare the Chinese immigrants who come to America now as opposed to those Chinese immigrants who came years ago. Many new Chinese immigrants tend be coming to America much younger, more skilled and more educating—having completed some type of higher education. Another major change is that many of these new Chinese immigrants tend to be settling in areas that do not have such a large Chinese population. This is interesting because we have learned that in the past when Chinese immigrants would come to America they would settle in the more traditional Chinatowns, in order to be close to familiar faces.  This new trend of settling in other types of neighborhoods helps the new Chinese immigrants assimilate much quicker. It was also interesting to see that many Chinese immigrants began moving out of the more traditional Chinatowns to areas like Flushing and in parts of Brooklyn.

Another notable difference is that before many Chinese immigrants would immigrate to America with the hopes of finding more employment opportunities or get higher wages however the new wave of Chinese immigrants are looking to settle in America so that their kids can have a better future and to actually settle down here. The new waves of Chinese immigrants are becoming more politically active in the areas they reside and are assimilating very well. It is clear that the new Chinese immigrants are settling in America and are making this country their own.

I wonder how the nature of immigrants that come to the America in the next 20 years will be and how they will compare to the immigrants who are coming now?

NYLA Article

The article introduces a new term, “ethnoburbs” to describe a “middle-class suburban communities concentrated by ethnic minorities and ethnic businesses” (358). The appearance of these ethnoburbs reinforces again the change in immigration to a diversified and varied socioeconomic structure.  The articles specifies congruencies and differences of the Chinatowns- Manhattan, Flushing and Sunset Park. One way to highlight differences is by describing the micro-enclaves that have apparently settled into the different areas.  For example, the article claims “immigrants from Mainland China and Hong Kong tend to settle in Manhattan and Brooklyn, while Taiwanese immigrants mostly concentrate in Queens. Conclusions such as these help explain some of the major differences between the areas.

One thing I found particularly interesting was the role of NPOs in the development of the Chinatowns, particularly Sunset Park. As we work on fieldwork, it’s becoming more evident how much of an impact community groups can have on helping locals navigate the   complex systems for benefits such as government aide. This is especially true when the residents do not speak English well and do not have developed networks. These organizations, such as the Brooklyn Chinese-American Association (BCA) helped turn Sunset Park into a thriving community by offering support in language, job hunting, financial aide, and more. The development of such programs deepens ethnic networks, builds trust and moral by encouraging volunteering and support, and ultimately help families and communities to prosper.

NYLA Article

This article highlights the interesting contrasts of ethnic chinese enclaves within New York City and between New York and California. The introduction begins by presenting the “general belief… that new immigrants first clustered in ethnic enclaves and toiled to pave a path for their children… to “melt” into middle-class suburbia and to become ‘indistinguishably’ American.” As is abundantly clear from our other class readings, this is no longer the typical trajectory; Nancy Foner addresses this phenomena in chapter two of From Ellis Island to JFK. This article explores the process by which ethnoburbs,” middle-class suburban communities defined by the concentration of ethnic minorities, form.

Often, we study ethnic neighborhoods along sociological lines: who lives there, how do they live, what is their socioeconomic status, how do they interact among each other and with other groups in the same city? What I found refreshing about this article was that it approached the issue from both a sociological and economic perspective. The driving forces of globalization have altered local economies and changed opportunities for upward mobility on a world-wide scale: the economic motivations for migration of fifty years ago have been radically transformed. Just as the receiving economy in which immigrants is different, so is it with the sending economy; many immigrants of today have the means to settle directly into suburbs that were once exclusively white (page 3). I’m sure that in the coming years, we will find this to be increasingly true; as developing countries attain an increasingly high standard of living, immigrants to the United States will be more educated and more affluent.

Furthermore, I found it interesting, though not shocking, that incoming immigrants could have such a revitalizing effect on the local economies, both in New York’s chinatowns and in Montery Park in California. Of course, the case of Montery Park is a dangerous example: many would perhaps argue that the transformation of a sleepy, quiet suburb into a vibrant commercial center is not an improvement. However, if you consider the overall health of the larger district/city economy (and even on the State level), it is clear that we all benefit from the ingenuity and initiatives of immigrant entrepreneurs.

Zhou, Chin, Kim

            This reading was important in showing how the reasons that people emigrated from their countries in the past have changed drastically in present times. Economic, religious, political, and financial reasons used to drive immigrants into America in search of higher paying jobs and employment opportunities, but times have changed. The reasons for moving to the United States have become more complex such as specific educational opportunities for future generations and developing stable establishments. There is a new type of immigrants arriving to the country. Rather than poor, uneducated and unspecialized workers, new Chinese immigrants are highly-skilled, educated, and specialized.

Chinese immigrants are usually well educated and sometimes exceed American classmates in academics. The middle class young immigrants arriving to America are not settling where their ancestors used to in Chinatown, but are instead branching out to various communities and view Chinatown as a cultural link. It is Chinatown that allows youngsters to stay in touch with their Asian roots, but they are becoming more Americanized.

Zhou, Chin, Kim Response

What I found most interesting about the Zhou, Chin, Kim article was the changes faced by the Chinese immigrant community, whether it be in the way they were treated or in the lifestyle they lived. Originally, Chinese immigrants would come to the United States for the sole purpose of making extra money to send back to their family. They would live in mainly Chinese communities in or around the city, and arrive with not much knowledge of actual U.S living standards or job skills. The more modern immigrants arriving in the United States now are more educated, more skilled, and aim to not just earn a bit then return, but to start a new life and settle here. Their higher education and skill level allowed the Chinese immigrants to focus less on day to day survival and more on providing a stable living environment for their children and contributing to the community. Thankfully, this serves to change our previous attitude towards the stereotypical Chinese immigrant. The connotation used to be mostly negative, viewing them as job-stealing, unmotivated, and “different,” but most today are seen as hardworking and hopeful.

Zhou, Chin, and Kim

In “The Transformation of Chinese American Communities: New York vs. Los Angeles,” Zhou, Chin, and Kim reflect on the prevailing theme of new immigration as opposed to trends of the previous generations. It compares the old generation of uneducated and poor immigrants to the new middle-class and educated immigrants. This ultimately influences where and how immigrants populate and settle in certain areas. For example, Chinese immigrants are starting to not settle as frequently and prevalent in the traditional Chinatowns of previous generations. New immigrants are spreading across different neighborhoods, significantly impacting the diversity of the cities of Los Angeles and New York City. Immigrants are now living more and more amongst Americans and are really trying to assimilate into this culture. I found this article particularly interesting because it points out the discrepancies with popular perceptions of immigrants in present times. Most people seem to stereotype immigrants as incompetent and often blue-collar workers. I feel like this is especially prominent amongst Chinese immigrants. They are often stereotyped in the media’s perception of them throughout the decades. When we visited the MOCA for example they had racist books in the exhibition of Chinese brothers who were colored yellow. This also made me think of the extremely popular comic series “the yellow kid” that helped coined the era of yellow journalism. It was a stereotyped depiction of an Asian boy.  In actuality, many Asian immigrants are very well educated and maybe would have a better opportunity to be successful and contribute to society if they were better received in today’s society. I think that society would benefit from knowing the new trends of immigration and how there copious amounts of well-educated immigrants who can really benefit the well-being and success of our country as a whole.

The Transformation of Chinese American Communities

I think it is very interesting that, along with the change in regions where Chinese immigrants  are settling, there has also been a change in socioeconomic status.  This reading says that previous Chinese immigrants were mainly unskilled and from the Guangdong Province.  However, Chinese immigrants today come from all over China, and are often college educated.  What I also found interesting is that immigrants from specific regions will tend to settle in specific areas of New York City.  For instance, those form the mainland and Hong Kong will typically move to Manhattan and Brooklyn, Taiwanese go to Queens, and Fujianese will settle in Sunset Park or the old Chinatown.  I mean, it makes sense because immigrants moving to an entirely new and foreign country will want to settle somewhere that they will have the least amount of trouble assimilating into.  This can also be thought of with language.  In China, there are different dialects spoken in different regions of the country, so an immigrant would want to move to a region where the people speak the same dialect as them.  Overall, I found the reading enjoyable, but enjoyed the sections about New York City more interesting than those of Los Angeles.  This is probably because I have seen firsthand the different Chinese communities in the city, so I can relate more to this section of the reading.

“Transformation of Chinese American Communities” Response

“The Transformation of Chinese American Communities: New York vs. Los Angeles” by Zhou, Chin, and Kim is an article which discusses the changes in the Chinese immigrants who come to the United States. The immigrants are no longer poor, unskilled laborers, but are now younger, middle class, educated people. The new immigrants are also no longer settling in the traditional Chinatowns, but branch out into communities and look back to the traditional Chinatowns as cultural links and ties. The article also talks about how the children of first generation Chinese immigrants are becoming more and more assimilated with American culture but still manage to maintain ties with their roots. I found this article interesting because in many cultures in the US it is seen as beneficial to assimilate with American culture and move closer to the idealized “white” status. I, however think it is important for ethnic cultures to maintain some of their customs because the interwoven diversities are what make the US the land of immigrants.

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In the article, “The Transformation of Chinese American Communities: New York vs. Los Angeles”, Zhou, Margaret M. Chin, and Rebecca Y. Kim discuss how the immigrants that are now coming into the country and moving into the middle class suburbs and living next to native born population. Many Chinese immigrants are described in the article of being a part of this new generation of immigrants.  Many of these new Chinese immigrants have a college education. These new immigrants are trained and more skilled than previously before.

Does having more educated immigrants in the country help or hurt our economy? Immigrants do many of our country’s menial tasks and jobs. Could there be a lack of immigrants to fill those necessary positions? Many immigrants might not find jobs in their respective fields because their education isn’t recognized in this country or our economy doesn’t have enough jobs for them in their field. The immigrants would have to do jobs that don’t properly fit their specialty, which many native-born college graduates are facing themselves.  Immigrants could possibly use their knowledge and ability to help this nation progress technologically and scientifically but how do we create an economy that helps them to flourish as well as the native born find jobs they want. It is one of the many arguments that politicians debate when they discuss immigration. How will the future policies be shaped, as more educated immigrants enter this country?

Smoke and Mirrors in New York and LA

There was an exhibit within the Museum of Chinese in America that focused on American perceptions of Asian-Americans and Asian immigrants. Included in the display was the 1938 children’s book The Five Chinese Brothers by Claire Huchet Bishop and Kurt Wiese, which depicts the Chinese men to be conniving, indistinguishable crooks. Another plaque focused on Arnold Genthe, who created, through photograph editing, an illusion of exotic and isolated California Chinatowns which falsely depicted Chinese immigrants as refusing to integrate into Anglo-American society, which later earned Chinese Americans the stigma of being “The Others.” The Anglo-American tradition of stereotyping Asians surpassed its original role in theater and film, becoming deeply rooted in the everyday lives of Americans in the 1950s and 1960s, a time when Asian-American immigration was more diverse than ever.
The article by Chin, Kim, and Zhou creates a more accurate description of Asian immigrants in the 1960s; explaining that they were of many different racial, educational and socio-economic backgrounds. According to the MOCA exhibit, throughout the second half of the 1900s, there was a perception of all Asian immigrants as poorly educated, unskilled laborers from China who immigrated to the United States desperate for work, but were completely incapable of social integration. In reality, however, many Asian immigrants to the US were highly skilled professionals from Taiwan, as well as Mainland China, who were immediately given high-wage jobs. In addition, Chin, Kim and Zhou’s article further reveals the ridiculous falsity of Genthe’s doctored photos, as residential patterns suggest that many of these wealthy Asian immigrants settled outside of inner city Chinatowns and instead, settled into affluent, (arguably Caucasian,) neighborhoods. The factual depiction of Asian immigrants and the stereotypical depiction, widely accepted and recreated in media from the 1940s-1960s are in reality, nearly complete opposites.

How this discrepancy survived with the number of Asian-American immigrants rising at exponential rates in some of America’s most-watched cities remains baffling to me.