Berger’s The World in a City

Berger’s mosaic theory is an exceptionally fitting way to look at New York City’s population. You have many pieces of different shapes and colors, coming together to form a beautiful, diverse, and complete whole. New York’s mosaic is dynamic, with different pieces changing shape, size and color continually, as Joe Salvo’s maps showed us back in January. In The World in a City, very appropriately titled considering what Joseph Berger discusses, goes into an analysis of Ditmas Park, a diverse neighborhood in Brooklyn. In it live people of all races, cultures and socioeconomic classes, and yet the area is close-knit and friendly, for lack of a better word.

Neighbors treat each other well, and interracial friendships are very common. It appears that Ditmas Park is a true melting pot of cultures. However, upon closer examination, it becomes evident that this isn’t so. Sure you can find followers of all religions celebrating the same religious holiday as a community, and a national holiday can be celebrated by a whole street, a family inviting everyone over for a celebration, but where racial differences don’t matter in Ditmas Park, variance in socioeconomic standing does. Those who rent apartments tend to associate with others who do the same, and those who have the money to buy their own homes spend more time with others in their social class. If you were to survey inhabitants of the neighborhood regarding the validity of this observation, you wouldn’t get unanimous agreement, but it is those of higher economic standing who tend not to notice this trend, as expected. Fortunately, this doesn’t take away from the phenomenality of the cultural and racial mixing that has occurred as representative members of the surrounding neighborhoods, such as Borough Park, East Flatbush and Midwood, have moved into and carved out a small community that has possibly become the most culturally diverse neighborhood of Brooklyn, and perhaps of New York City.

The World in a City

Berger describes the role of Distmas Park, a neighborhood in Brooklyn, within the context of metropolitan melting pot of cultures. Distmas Park seems to be the perfect model of multicultural community, as people from completely different backgrounds live right next to each other. What’s so peculiar about this place is the relationships and close ties generated through the years among these neighbors: individuals of very distant nationalities and background overcame their differences and co-existed through the years, sometimes even becoming friends.

One of the explanations of how this could be possible, which I thought was really interesting as it reminded me of Joe Salvo’s talk, is one of the local residents’ theory that there is a majority of many, there isn’t a majority of one. Basically, because the percentages of people from different backgrounds are pretty well balanced, and there isn’t necessarily a dominant group, people are willing to co-exist peacefully.

Another point that Berger brings up, though, it’s also that not all of these people love each other or appreciate each other; they –indeed–simply accept and tolerate each other. This could be applied to New York City in general, to why it is such a precious place in the world, model to multi-ethnical societies, since for example people in the subway are so culturally different and thrown in the same few-squared-feet train car space yet they learned how to accept and tolerate each other.

Questions: Is tolerating each other enough to be considered peaceful co-existing? Isn’t it almost like pretending you like someone?
What if what we are looking at right now in Distmas Park is simply too much of a momentaneous analysis, which could turn into something completely different in a few years? in other terms, could this be a timed-bomb or is it something that could actually last as a society?

Sara Camnasio

The World in a City

Is it possible to have a utopian melting pot neighborhood? This is the question I really thought about as I read Berger’s writing about Ditmas Park. I was born and raised in New York City and I had never heard of Ditmas Park before reading this chapter which says something about this melting pot area. If it such a representation of assimilated culture and diversity, why isn’t it known more by New Yorkers?Berger argues that Ditmas Park defies the mosaic theory in Brooklyn which is very prevalent. Even the neighborhood that I am researching, Sheepshead Bay, there is a clear distinction between the Chinese and the Russians with very little interaction. Ditmas Park is a representation of cultures crossing those boundaries and making an effort to get to know the people from other ethnicities in their community. Ditmas Park abides by the social contact theory described by Putnam where people learn to tolerate and accept other people’s cultures by being in contact with them. However, Berger also mentions that even in this ideal place there is tension between the ethnic groups which has resulted in violence. This seems to prove that there really is no such thing as an ideally assimilated  neighborhood. I wonder how long this melting pot neighborhood will actually last. However, I do appreciate that there are places where people from different cultures can come to appreciate each other and not just tolerate each other as it seems is so common in New York, one of the most diverse places in the world.

 

Berger: The World in a City

What I found most interesting about this article, was the how through Ditmas Park seems to be a multicultural utopia, nothing is perfect.  At the end of the article Berger discusses how there are ethical tensions within the community, and this has unfortunately leaded to violent and disheartening events.  For example a Haitian woman claimed to be pummeled after buying plantains and peppers, houses have been burglarized and women being mugged.  It is interesting to see that even the most multicultural areas in New York City have histories of not accepting some people and turning to violence.  In some stores people of the community handed out leaflets telling people to ‘avoid shopping “with people who do not look like us.”’  It seems like this ideal utopia can not even have everybody getting along.

After a majority of these events in the 1990s the neighborhood began to change things around, and today everyone feels much more accepted.  It is good to see how people from everywhere can all live with each other, in such a way that their backgrounds no longer pose as a threat to anyone.  The variety adds to the characteristics of the neighborhood, and now people are moving to Ditmas Park in order to raise their kids in a multicultural environment.  Though I did not grow up in a neighborhood quite like Ditmas Park, my high school had a variety of ethnicities represented.  Seeing such a variety of ethnicities everyday I learned to accept everyone, I don’t think twice when I see someone hwo looks different from me, because nobody looks alike.  We are all so unique that it seems impossible to discriminate against certain groups, and I believe that this neighborhood has succeed in this aspect.

The World in a City: Melting Together in Ditmas Park

Before reading this chapter, I never knew that Ditmas Park existed. Even Berger says that “..many seasoned New Yorkers have never heard of it.” This area in Brooklyn defies the mosaic theory, which states that a diverse area is “an arrangement of different-colored ethnic tiles often coexisting amicably but separated by the sturdy grout of chauvinism and suspicion.” Instead, it seems to be a melting pot. No one ethnic or racial group is dominant, making this neighborhood work; Susan Miller said, “The reason why this works is there’s no majority one-there’s a majority of many” (23).

I enjoyed how Berger showed that there were friendships among the people of different ethnicities in the neighborhood, showing that the diversity is not “cosmetic.” For example, Mavis Theodore, a black Trinidadian, and Hynda Lessman Schneiweiss, a Chicago-born Jew, are very close friends. I too, have close friends that are from different backgrounds. My core friends are from different ethnicities, such as Filippino, African American, Bengali, Guyanese, Korean and Chinese.

The people in this neighborhood make an effort to be friends with people of other cultures. For example, residents hold dinners where the entire neighborhood is invited. Also, for holidays, neighbors are invited to one another’s houses, even if they are not from the same religion. I believe this is truly amazing for the residents in this neighborhoods to do this. They are trying to create a close-knit community.

These cross-cultural friendships in the neighborhood, however, are limited by socioeconomic class. Homeowners associate with homeowners and apartment dwellers with apartment dwellers. Furthermore, shared professional backgrounds contribute to this inclusivity. Why can’t friendships cross the class lines?

-Anissa Daimally

 

 

Berger Response

Berger’s article, “The World In a City”, on the diversity in Ditmas Park intrigued me greatly. I love diversity and there is nothing better than knowing that such a large population of diverse people lives together in one neighborhood. Although New York City is known to be one of the most diverse places in the world, I’d gotten so used to the idea of segmented neighborhoods, in which one culture or ethnic group dominates in certain bound areas, that reading about Ditmas Park came to me as a revelatory occasion worthy of some momentary fixation and lasting wonder. I liked how Berger described this phenomena as housing “the world in a city”. With people from all different cultures not just living together in one neighborhood, but also working together as one community, through events and social gatherings, that work to transform cultural restrictions into cultural amalgamation, the example of Ditmas Park really redefines and adds a new layer to the United States’ tradition of widespread immigration and the ‘melting pot’ philosophy. Moreover, I also liked how Berger qualified this by offering the counterargument that perhaps these people may simply be living together without actually interacting and actively animating the melting pot phenomena. Despite this skeptical take, I still believe that the diversity in Ditmas Park is something marvelous.

This article made me want to know more about the community. I googled Ditmas Park’s population and came up with a really interesting article that further shed light on the neighborhood’s unique characteristic (http://www.nysun.com/real-estate/in-a-diverse-city-ditmas-park-takes-the-cake/14510/). Daniela Gerson begins this article with the following scenario:

“ After school and before prayer class, 12-year-old Raniey Arief waited impatiently next to a bodega on Cortelyou Road as a Moroccan schoolmate ran in. Inside, two cashiers, one Cuban and the other Tibetan, waved as her friend scampered to grab a raspberry juice.

This type of cultural mishmash is the norm for Raniey, who wore a traditional Pakistani scarf and skirt with a leopard skin print. Her friends hail from such far-off places as Haiti, Russia, Italy, Mexico, and Poland.”

Moreover, she states that according to the most updated U.S. Census data of the time, the Cortelyou Road section of Ditmas Park was the most diverse area not just in New York City, but the entire nation. This sort of diversity is not just a marvelous phenomenon, it is an innately beautiful work of art unto itself, with each culture being an individual and distinctive brush stroke full of spark, vigor, and hope.

– Nadera Rahman

Berger Response

In The World in a City Berger talks about the diverse neighborhood that is Ditmas Park in Brooklyn.  What I found very interesting about this excerpt is that the people of this area are described as close friends and distant neighbors.  Berger begins by saying that Americans, especially in New York, are mixing and are more willing to get along with each other.  He describes Ditmas Park as an area where no one ethnic or racial group is dominant, and he says the people in this neighborhood are interwoven.  People move to this neighborhood expecting diversity.  You can walk down the street and see people of various different cultures.  I like how many of the people described in this excerpt say that their closes friend is someone of a different background.  This embraces the diversity that is ever so present in New York, and it shows that despite differences people can learn to communicate and work together whether it be at a community event in Ditmas Park or a large scale UN meeting in Manhattan.

The other aspect of Berger’s piece is that despite this rich diversity and seeming cooperation and friendship there is still a risk of separation and distrust.  Berger describes a split between people of different economic standing which often translates into racial separation.  People who rent apartments are less likely to be friends with homeowners.  He also included a statement from Pitzele, a history teacher, saying that the people are cohabiting not melting and that they are more friendly with people of their own ethnicity and social class.  Still, people in Ditmas Park seem to be putting in the effort with community plays, food events, and more making it seem, overall, like a friendly melting pot.

The World in a City

Berger’s mosaic theory of ethnic integration is an interesting image that aptly describes the Ditmas Park neighborhood.  This image denotes an amalgamation of cultures and ethnic traditions that meld together into one larger whole, while still retaining their own unique and distinctive elements.  Berger describes the Ditmas Park area as one representative of “radical mingling” (19); this phrase sheds light upon the striking nature of the way in which the diverse residents of Ditmas Park live and interact with each other.  Berger reiterates the fact that maintaining cross-cultural relationships in this area has become run-of-the-mill.  The diversity of Ditmas Park residents in interwoven; the residents are not divided by living in their own ethnic enclaves.  In this area, no one group is dominant, a fact that I found particularly interesting.  Susan Miller’s description of the neighborhood as a “majority of many” (23) aptly sums up the essence of the diversity present in Ditmas Park.  Berger attributes this lack of dominance to the geographic placement of this locale.  It seems that, because of the ethnic enclaves in the surrounding areas, namely, Coney Island, Sunset Park, Midwood, and East Flatbush, Ditmas Park has become a mixing place of sorts in which residents from these ethnic enclaves spill over and cross paths.

I also found Berger’s description of Westminster Road to be quite interesting, as I have spent quite some time in this area with family friends.  Westminster Road, with its English name, serene suburban feel, and diverse residents, draws an interesting parallel to the Ditmas Park area as a whole.

Why don’t the cross-cultural friendships in the Ditmas Park area extend over class lines?  I found it interesting that seemingly incompatible people in the area were able to sustain friendships with each other, but class lines tend to separate the same people.  What factors contribute to a tolerance of culture, but not class?

The World in a City

According to Joseph Berger’s “The World in a City”, Ditmas Park, Brooklyn is the epitome of ethnic diversity and tolerance in a community. People are neighbors to people from all stretches of the globe and are all able to coexist peacefully. Ditmas Park, therefore, is an example of the social contact theory mentioned by Putman, in which people come together and through contact with other people’s differences learn to tolerate it. However, Ditmas Park also demonstrates characteristics of the social conflict theory. As mentioned in the article, people in the community tend to associate along social lines. The lawyers associated with other lawyers, and homeowners associated with other homeowners. This shows how although Ditmas Park may appear to be more tolerant of diversity than other communities, it is not perfect. The consequences of differences between different groups of people are still present.

What is also interesting is how the creation of the diversity in Ditmus Park is believed to be the result of the spilling over of residents from the monoethnic enclaves that surround it. If this is true then won’t one community spill more residents into Ditmas Park and eventually that group will become the dominant group, removing the diversity of the community? If so, the state Ditmas Park is in now is only a transition state. I believe this is inevitable because it is a natural tendency to find others that share common qualities. As a result, the residents of this community, no matter how peacefully they coexist, will want to be with others that celebrate similar cultures and ultimately smaller ethnic sections will be formed as more new residents move in.

-Wendy Li

Berger

Berger talks a lot about Ditmas Park and the residents who live in it. It seems like he’s glorifying Ditmas Park and how it truly is a “melting pot” of so many different ethnicities. In the reading, Beckman says that even though she grew up on the Village’s Bank Street in the 1960s, and lived among the brownstones of Carroll Gardens she still found the neighborhood becoming “too white” and moved to Ditmas Park as a result. This reminded me of the time when I went on vacation to China. I had never realized the impact of the diversity in New York until I went on that vacation. Like Beckman, I found China to be “too Asian” and I found myself getting excited every time I saw someone of a different ethnicity, whether they were living there or were tourists.

The last statement at the end, where Beckman says “What’s scary is that it could change,” when talking about the multicultural aspect of Ditmas Park. I feel as though something like that isn’t necessarily scary. Sure, it could be taking one step away from where we are trying to go towards: a true melting pot of people, with multicultural neighborhoods everywhere. But nothing is ever stagnant; if one neighborhood changes, so will another. And another. And the one after that. Ditmas Park might be taking a step backwards but maybe another neighborhood might become more multicultural. And, what if it doesn’t change? People of different ethnicities and cultures are always going to be moving in and out of neighborhoods.

Berger-Post 2

Almost immediately, Berger’s use of the mosaic theory captured my attention. On a demographic map, each ethnicity is a different color, but they all live together-like one big family. Each nationality combines with the next to form one big mosaic. However Berger also criticizes the theory of the “melting pot” and I disagree with that because it is evident in our every day lives that we indeed live in a melting pot. Just take a look at each class at Hunter. Asians, Europeans, Africans, and many more nationalities co-exist and thrive in one environment. Although each person has their own little piece in the mosaic, they all interact and form the larger melting pot.

The World in a City

Before reading Berger’s: “The World in a City,” I already knew that New York was a conglomerate of multiple races and cultures. One would have to essentially be blind not to see the diversity. New York is after all the city where everyone wants to come, visit and sometimes reside permanently. However, the way in which Berger characterized New York really put into context on another level just how dynamic and welcoming the neighborhoods of New York are.

From the initial chapter, Berger really summed up New York with the passage, “New York can be viewed as an archipelago, like Indonesia a collection of distinctive islands, in its case its village like neighborhoods. Each island has its own way of doing things, its own flavor, fragrance, and indelible characters. But, as a result of the roiling tides of migration and the unquenchable human restlessness and hunger for something better and grander, most of these neighborhoods are in constant, ineluctable flux.”

When I read the previous passage, I was reminded of when Joe Salvo talked about the effects of net migration in and out of various neighborhoods. It is truly surprising and interesting how the demographic of a neighborhood that was formally dominated by one race becomes more ethnically diverse or populated with another group.  For example, by looking at Astoria today, no one would have known that Greeks previously dominated it. Today they only consist of 8.6% of the current population in Astoria. Now, the neighborhood simply within a two-block radius consists of a “veritable souk, with shops selling halal meat, Syrian pastries, and airplane tickets to Morocco, driving lessons in Arabic, Korans and other Muslim books.”  You really get a sense and a piece of multiple cultures. However, this isn’t the case solely in Astoria which is why New York is such a great place to be.

By living at the dorms, I have access to any food of my choosing. I can walk within a three-block radius and find Chinese, Spanish and Italian food. My only question is, in neighborhoods where there is an initial dominating ethnic enclave, what are the factors that contribute to this group picking a particular neighborhood? How long do homogenous enclaves last in New York before a neighborhood diversifies?

-Ashley Haynes

Ethnic Tiles

In Berger’s The World in a City, I really liked his use of the phrase “different-colored ethnic tiles” (19). I find the mosaic theory, which is what Berger is talking about here, to be an interesting one. It definitely has merit to it, as you see from maps like the ones that Joe Salvo showed us where you can see just who is living where, next to whom. People identify differently based on their ethnicity, their background, their ancestry, but in New York City, everyone lives among each other. Yes there are neighborhoods like Chinatown and Little Italy, but those neighborhoods cross over each other, especially over time, and they do still interact because they are just smaller portions of the bigger City. Berger also talks about the melting pot theory, and relates some people’s opinions that the city isn’t a melting pot, but rather we all just inhabit the same land and don’t interact with those outside of our preconceived social circles. I don’t agree with that, but perhaps that’s simply because of my going to school and having to interact with everyone in my classes. Yes it’s true that we relate better to those who are more similar to us, but I don’t think that means that we isolate ourselves completely from those who are more dissimilar to us.

“The World in A City”-Berger Response

– Does the assimilation model of the ethnic enclave serving only as a temporary home for certain groups to “make it” and go up on the social ladder really best describe NYC? Is it the best model available for demographic changes?

– The comparison of assimilation of Arabs and Muslims into American society as opposed to European society is very interesting. Apparently American society is much more receptive and enthusiastic than European society in that “in London, Paris, and Hamburg, there is far more ambivalence [towards Muslims]. Even two and three generations after they began settling in those cities, the Muslim underclass tends to remain outside the mainstream.” (19) How else do immigration patterns differ between NYC and the capitals of Europe?

Response to “The World in a City”, Berger

From the neighborhoods I know of, those that are not dominated by a couple of ethnicities only exist in Manhattan. I never even heard of the neighborhood of Ditmas Park. An idea that struck me as interesting from the thoughts of the diverse people living in that neighborhood was that of an old lady who said that you can’t learn to be in a democracy if you live in a one-ethnicity neighborhood. And I think that makes sense, because how can one learn to listen to and respect opinions of different people if he is always surrounded by others whose way of living and thinking is just like his own. I never really looked at democracy from this point of view: that it’s not just about everyone having a vote, but it is also about learning to respect the opinions of others who cast those votes, even if they’re different from yours.
The neighborhood itself is still a bit obscure to me since I went to a high school that is mentioned in this book, Midwood High School, and I’m still not aware of a neighborhood near there that is called Ditmas Park. The neighborhood that does sound like the one being described is now called Midwood.

This neighborhood is described as “diversity by accident” because it is surrounded by neighborhoods that are dominated by specific ethnic groups and it is assumed that those people moved into this neighborhood simply as an extension of the surrounding ones. Even if that is true, I still think that this neighborhood shows true diversity because people wouldn’t want to live there unless they appreciated living on blocks that are a mix of very different people, as opposed to even having a neighborhood that seems diverse, but in reality each block is dominated by one group.

The one type of diversity described here that seems unwelcome is the mix of economically polar households. One man was describing how he and his family members were robbed in this neighborhood due to, according to him, an “unpleasant consequences in the mix of rich and poor”. This made me realize the differences between the two diversities that I haven’t compared this way before: while cultural diversity is about sharing ideas and a friendly exchange of cultural aspects, the economic diversity seems to cause anger in those who have less. I think that is primarily because when it comes to culture, people don’t often feel like their culture is inferior to another, so they don’t have a problem exchanging aspects of their culture with others. The problem with economic differences is that people who are poor might feel anger or jealousy toward those who are rich, and friendly mixing would be difficult if those feelings are there. The environment created by such interactions is much more hostile than the friendly environment of cultural exchange that is described by people in the Ditmas Park neighborhood. And this economic evil is later described in this book as bringing about the tensions between ethnicities that would not have existed otherwise.