Granovetter: Social ties

Granovetter brings up an interesting, yet wordy, discussion of social ties throughout society.  I agree with his formula for strength of a tie, which as he sees it is equal to the amount of time, emotional intensity, intimacy (mutual confiding) and the reciprocal services between the two individuals.  I believe that these aspects are very important in the calculation of a relationship between people, however these are not the only variables that should be included in this equation.  Relationships, and social ties, go through ups and downs and the tie may change strength throughout a friendship.  However as a simplified model I believe this equation would suffice.

The discussion of the strong and weak ties between people, and how a bridge is incorporated into these relationships was extremely wordy.  The point he made however is accurate to real life.  For example with his discussion of people A, B and C, if A has a friendship with both B and C, then through time B and C can ultimately become friends.  Through my own personal experience I have seen this happen, although the ‘bridge’ between B and C, in certain situations, has become a strong tie, and in some cases, stronger than the tie between A and B, and A and C.  This would then disrupt the system that Granovetter had so meticulously created.  It is interesting to see this some what simple idea of relationship and put it into terms such as these, and see how they can effect the dispersal of information, like rumors.  Weak ties create the “rumor” that we are all familiar with, where the true facts get twisted through word of mouth, especially between people how share weak friendship ties as opposed to strong ties.  This discussion brought up interesting points of human interaction and how we face relationships.

Waters and Jimenez

This article included a lot of interesting findings of recent immigration and how it differs from previous influxes of immigration.  Though the differences include how assimilation is occurring and how it is related to the generations of children in the United States, language and where the immigrants are moving to once they come, one thing particularly stuck out to me.  The fact that although immigrants are coming into the United States from different areas, and different credentials, is interesting especially in seeing that they are still receiving the same low level jobs.  Immigrants were initially hired in factories because they were available for low pay, this is still in existence.  Today they are also hired in the poultry industry because they are available for low pay.  And just as in earlier immigration periods, they are paid little because of the large number of suitable workers for these positions as there are always new immigrants coming into the country.  This was mentioned in the article as the rejuvenation and replenishment of the immigrant population.

Besides this continuity between the immigrant groups, the main difference that truly stuck out to me was the difference in where these groups are heading to live.  Though the popular cities and states still have higher percentages of immigrant population, more and more immigrants are moving into cities which have never experienced immigration on such a personal level within close proximity.  It is interesting to see how the economic situation of the United States and the world is affecting everything, even immigration.  I wonder if once we climb out of recession and into economic stability if immigrant groups will once again move into these more popular regions.

Response to Neither Real Americans nor Real Asians? Mia Tuan

A really interesting point was made regarding the discrimination against the Japanese in the US during WWII. Even though Germans were the main enemy of the war, German-Americans were not discriminated against in the US as the Japanese were. That is really curious. How come no one was afraid that the Germans in America would “spy for their home country”? Quite racist, really.

Also I understand the idea of how Asian-Americans don’t feel like they completely identify with Asians nor are they fully seen as American. It is like even if you want to identify with a certain group, that group does not see you as a part of them because of something that is different about you. Even though some Asians want to identify with Americans, they feel like the Americans don’t see them as American because “American” is “white”. At the same time, the Asians at their home country do not see them as “Asian” either since those people already have so much American in them. It is kind of a confusing dilemma for a person’s identity.

It is difficult to imagine a solution to these issues though because if so many people aren’t influenced against racist thinking by now, it feels like it will be a slow process. That is why cultural education and integration of different cultures into everyday American life should help alleviate this problem.

Maira Temple- “Desis in The House” (Chapter 2) Response

This chapter addresses how South Asian second-generation youth (particularly Indian Americans) try to form a culture with which they can identify. Particularly through music, second-generation immigrant youth explore the different meanings of their identity. It appears that they are helping to form a culture that is somewhere between what is considered to be “white” and “black.” I found this particularly interesting because whether or not one feels assimilated into the mainstream society or whether or not one chooses to maintain certain ethnic ties changes the way society perceives and treats an individual or a group. Furthermore, this creation of a pan-Indian culture may be the dawn of a new category of classification of people. While creating an ethnic identity is important, the question remains as to whether or not this will allow segregation between various ethnicities to continue indefinitely.

“Becoming New Yorkers” (Chapter 1, Conclusion) Response

I find the question of “to what exactly do immigrants assimilate?” very interesting. For one thing, the various trajectories of assimilation are fascinating, and they can have severe social impacts. For instance, dissatisfied and stressed-out second and third generation immigrants, who do not do much better than their first-generation parents and grandparents may feel ostracized and blocked off from ever attaining the desired social status of assimilated “American”. This in turn can lead to a rise in social conflicts as people will turn to other methods of attaining a sense of belonging and end up separating themselves further from mainstream society. Will downward assimilation become more and more prominent in the coming years, as more and more immigrants struggle to make a better life for themselves? What will this mean for native minorities? Will they follow in the same trend or will their social mobility perceptively increase in the future?

Tuan – “Neither Real Asians nor Real Americans?” Response

Here the issue of Asian-American identity is addressed, particularly the trend (because of changes in immigration laws from the 1960s) of Asian ethnics not feeling “Asian enough” despite a third of them having been born in the United States. Thus ensues the conflict between national and ethnic identity. To what extent do these identity crises occur in other immigrant ethnicities? How do second- or third-generation immigrants go about dealing with social stigmas from both their mother country and the US? Do our tendencies to group people by ethnicity hinder assimilation in the long run and does this mean that mainstream American society will be utterly unable to move past labels like “white” “black” “Hispanic” and “Asian-American”, etc.?

“The Threat of Stereotypes” Article Response

Stereotype threat is a very real and very significant issue many immigrants have to deal with, from being picked in school because children don’t know any better (or not doing as well on tests because of pre-conceived notions on the stereotyped’ intelligence) to suffering in the professional foyer because potential employers or co-workers are ignorant or scared, stereotype threat affects immigrants both socially and psychologically. How long can these unflattering portrayals be allowed to continue? “By the age of 6, virtually everyone in our culture is aware of a variety of cultural stereotypes. Mere familiarity with their content is enough to bias people’s perceptions and treatment of individuals from stereotyped groups.” This fact is rather unnerving and the decline of stereotyping is much overdue, mostly because people believe in these stereotypes and will sadly continue to do so unless they are educated otherwise.

Granovetter- “The Strength of Weak Ties” Response

As argued by Granovetter, it appears that weak social ties may be most beneficial in the times of a crisis because of the nature of social networks. Specifically, there is the argument that the stronger the relationship between two people, the greater the likelihood that their respective social networks (people they know, with varying degrees of strength) overlap significantly. This overlap may not necessarily be a positive thing in certain cases. For instance, in the even of a natural disaster or economic crisis when resources or employment are scarce, people with larger social networks (weaker ties) are more likely to have access to the aforementioned scarce resources and jobs because they simply know more people who know other, unique individuals with access or knowledge. In comparison to those individuals with smaller social networks (stronger ties), they would be better off in times of widespread distress. Conversely, one could inference that closer-knit networks are more beneficial when circumstances are “normal” or not dire. What effect would negative weak ties have on integrating the communities of immigrant groups? How would one go about exploring this empirically?

Foner-“From Ellis Island to JFK” (Chapter 6-7) Response

Chapter 6:

Regardless of time period, it appears as though transnational ties to homeland communities are a crucial if not intrinsic part of the immigrant experience. These networks provide a flow of information and resources to often distended families and societies. Do these ties actually help temporary immigrants improve their socio-economic station in the old country? Are they more effective at doing so now? Naturally, these aspects would vary from group to group, but I think it is mostly outside factors (i.e. quality within the mother country, etc.) that define whether or not people actually go back (or did go back, rather, in the 1900s), like the social differences between Russian Jews who were persecuted in many of the countries they fled from and Italians, many of whom expected to return home with their newly-earned wealth. Obviously the greatest factor that changed the nature of “transnationality” is technology, connecting people socially, but does it really create more opportunities for immigration today than it did in the last great immigration wave, when the rise of industrial technology was a significant “pull” factor?

 

Chapter 7:

Education continues to be a major factor in immigrant success however the extent to which people attain education (i.e. how long the stay in school, higher education if applicable, etc.) has changed drastically. It was the nature of work to be found that has affected the rate at which immigrants seek education (the predominantly low-skill manual labor of the early 20t century vs. the increasingly professional work that attracts immigrants to higher-paying vocations today), and unsurprisingly overall immigrant children obtaining education in the US today are more successful than in the past. Completion of high school, and even college is becoming more and more of a staple in the projected tract for upward mobility. On another note, enters the factor of race in immigrant success in the educational arena; once again it is important to mention the significantly higher levels of performance of Asian immigrants in schools, more so than any other no immigrant groups, and in some cases, native Americans (attributed to culture and community resources).

Foner-“From Ellis Island to JFK” (Chapter 3-4) Response

Chapter 3:

The trends of employment described in this chapter are an example of how immigration has changed between relatively modern times and the last great wave of immigration at the turn of the 20th century. The influx of highly-skilled and educated workers is not surprising however, because professionals also seek better pay and opportunities in other countries, the desire to better one’s social standing is not limited to only the uneducated and low-skilled. It appears that certain groups are consistently on the lowest tier of this immigrant socio-economic ladder, with certain Hispanic immigrant groups (particularly Mexicans) having the highest percentages of little to no education, while white-collar work goes to the most educated immigrants (typically from Europe and Asia). To what extent does the new, service-oriented industry and white flight in NYC aid immigrants in obtaining social mobility? Is this progress (or lack thereof) affected by ethnicity of the immigrants? What will be the long-lasting social effects of higher rates of employment of non-native Black and Hispanic populations over their native counterparts?

 

Chapter4:

Both sad and expected, the life of immigrant women (both daughters and wives) was more limiting than that of their male counterparts. The stigma of a “working wife” forced domesticized work (for the most part, unpaid work at home) on the female immigrant population (particularly the Italians and Russian Jews, as discussed in the chapter), in the early 1900s. The social constructs that allowed boys to be regarded as more valuable and useful led to significant disparities in parents’ spending on their children’s education, often if not always, leaving women at a substantial disadvantage. Finally, immigrant women were sheltered from American customs. Of course the conditions today are hardly ideal for immigrant women, but there have been significant rises in education attained and in percentages of women doing white-collar, professional work. It is rather remarkable the effect time and human capital have on employment patterns for immigrant women, however the conflicts arising from social expectations of a woman’s role in the domestic and professional sphere remain. Sadly, it doesn’t look like they will be gone any time soon as “wage labor both oppresses and liberates immigrant women” in a twisted and exhausting paradox as male privilege continues to be an appalling staple in our contemporary society.

Foner Chp 5

This chapter talks about the racism experienced by immigrants, even Asians who  are now seen as the model immigrant group have had a had time assimilating to American culture. This is interesting because even Asian Americans who were born in America are still not always seen as Americans. In my sociology class we talked about the racial triangulation between whites, black, and asians. According to the article,”The Racial Triangulation of Asian Americans” white Americans are still seen as the “superior” group, then asians and then blacks. This is because of the reputation asians have created for themselves. They hold the stereotype of being hard working, studious, and diligent. This is an advantage that this group was able to create for themselves, however according to the article, asians are still considered foreigners. The author goes on to say that asians have been racially positioned with reference to blacks and whites with no seeming possibility of significant mobility.

What I found interesting about this chapter is there always seems to be a scapegoat within the immigrants. First it was the Jews and Italians, but once immigrants of different races and colors began immigrating to the United States, the Jews and Italians were considered “white”, and people created a new scapegoat. Today, it is particularly people from the West Indies, especially, that are seen as the new scapegoat.

From Ellis Island to JFK – Chapter 3 & 4

In Chapter 3, Foner mentions how ethnic niches are created and that immigrants tend to go after jobs that are spread by word of mouth. This concept came up in other readings as well. This is still true to this day; in a tutoring place I work at, my employer sends out e-mails asking if any of our friends wanted/needed a job and would be willing to work. Like the garment factories, this tutoring place is flexible with scheduling, which is something more desirable than a job elsewhere where there are set hours.

It’s interesting to see how Chinese restaurants actually became part of the Jewish culture in New York City. Even though they might not be able to communicate by the same language, food can still bring people of different ethnicities together. It is definitely more apparent in today’s culture with Chinese take-out restaurants every couple of blocks in some parts of Manhattan.

In Chapter 4, Foner discusses immigrant women and their work. It’s interesting to see that the Jewish daughters were the ones who contributed the most to the income because the father’s job could be unstable and whatnot. It reminded me of the economy today. My friend’s mom recently lost her job so my friend decided to work part-time. She told me that she had been getting more interviews than her mom. If my friend did get the job, then she would be contributing more than her mom.

Foner – From Ellis Island to JFK (Chapters 6+7)

Chapter 6 of From Ellis Island to JFK focuses on how immigrants lead transnational lives. When on emigrates from his home country and comes to the United States, or any other nation for that matter, there is family left in the country of origin, in the majority of cases. Back in the day, sustaining these ties, as well as keeping up with cultural changes and the news of one’s home country was difficult. Communication was limited to what we have come to call “snail mail”, and not without reason. It would take two weeks for a letter from the U.S. to reach a country on the other side of the world, in some cases longer. Can you imagine how excruciating the wait must have been? Technology has changed all that, as Foner explains, providing many means of rapid, near-instant communication, and all but enabling one to be in two places at once. The options for quick communication are virtually endless: Skype, instant messaging, Facebook, telephone calls, and the list goes on and on and on.

Chapter 7 really goes into the schooling of immigrant children. As is illustrated by the sad story of Celia’s family, many immigrant families had to pull at least some of their kids out of school, to have them work. Generally, the salaries that the parents in the families received didn’t bring in enough money for them to be able to get by, let alone live comfortably. Children had to work from an early age, as we saw in the LES Tenement Museum, where the daughters in the family were working in their early teenage years. Our tour guide told us that some children immigrated here at age 12 and got jobs right away, as that was the minimum age requirement for them to be allowed to have jobs, and they had to help support their families. Those who were lucky enough to be able to go to school were heavily pressed to “Americanize”. Immigrant children were actually watched, yes, watched during school hours as a means of making sure that they wouldn’t do or say anything that is of their native culture or in their native language, respectively. That is absolutely horrific and I’m endlessly thankful that cultural and racial diversity is supported by so many schools and schooling systems across the nation.

Were all of the sacrifices made prior to immigration to the United States and in the first years here worth it for the majority of immigrant families? That is, would a significant number of these families have been better served by remaining in their native countries?

Foner – From Ellis Island to JFK (Chapter 5)

I find it to be truly remarkable that the views of society can be so powerful in constructing so much of what we see in our lives on a daily basis. Racism stands out as being very artificial. Throughout history, many members of American society have put much effort into forming the belief that the lighter one’s skin, the better. This has even gone as far as racism being biologically justified, such reasoning having no merit of course. In fact, what more is race than yet another social construction? Foner highlights the fact that race is also socially constructed.

Racial classifications tend to be quite broad, white, black, Asian, etc. However, it appears that in some cases becoming part of a broader classification is desirable. In the past Jews and Italians, especially those who came in the first large wave of immigrants and prior, were each discriminated for specific reasons. However, Jews and Italians have worked their ways into the “white” classification, which tends to face the least racial discrimination in society.

Previously, it was believed that Asians and blacks and other non-whites shouldn’t come to the U.S. because they would taint American society with certain aspects of their culture and behavior. The language barrier was also used as a justification for such racism. However, what truly stands out to me as being disgusting is that many of the members of these heavily oppressed groups were racist, as well. Do unto others as you would have them do to you. Why would members of groups that have faced much racism over the years stoop to mistreating members of other races in the same ways? Is the seemingly lower level of racism in the U.S. today versus prior truly an indication that views, and people, have changed, or is it just coincidental with the decreased rate of immigration? Perhaps time will show what the answers to these questions are, and hopefully time will also bring us a world in which racism no longer exists. Nancy Foner certainly provides enough reasoning to indicate how silly racism really is.

Berger’s The World in a City

Berger’s mosaic theory is an exceptionally fitting way to look at New York City’s population. You have many pieces of different shapes and colors, coming together to form a beautiful, diverse, and complete whole. New York’s mosaic is dynamic, with different pieces changing shape, size and color continually, as Joe Salvo’s maps showed us back in January. In The World in a City, very appropriately titled considering what Joseph Berger discusses, goes into an analysis of Ditmas Park, a diverse neighborhood in Brooklyn. In it live people of all races, cultures and socioeconomic classes, and yet the area is close-knit and friendly, for lack of a better word.

Neighbors treat each other well, and interracial friendships are very common. It appears that Ditmas Park is a true melting pot of cultures. However, upon closer examination, it becomes evident that this isn’t so. Sure you can find followers of all religions celebrating the same religious holiday as a community, and a national holiday can be celebrated by a whole street, a family inviting everyone over for a celebration, but where racial differences don’t matter in Ditmas Park, variance in socioeconomic standing does. Those who rent apartments tend to associate with others who do the same, and those who have the money to buy their own homes spend more time with others in their social class. If you were to survey inhabitants of the neighborhood regarding the validity of this observation, you wouldn’t get unanimous agreement, but it is those of higher economic standing who tend not to notice this trend, as expected. Fortunately, this doesn’t take away from the phenomenality of the cultural and racial mixing that has occurred as representative members of the surrounding neighborhoods, such as Borough Park, East Flatbush and Midwood, have moved into and carved out a small community that has possibly become the most culturally diverse neighborhood of Brooklyn, and perhaps of New York City.

The Threat of Stereotype

I found this article to be very enlightening. I never realized the connection between the stereotype threat and the grades that students receive in school. When students are faced with the pressure to overcome a stereotype, they underperform on tests. Studies showed that African American students fared worse than white students on a challenging verbal test that measured intellectual ability and preparation. When the pressure was lifted and the test was presented in a non-evaluative manner, the black students excelled. I enjoyed the studies that showed that when the stereotype threat was diminished and that the belief that intelligence is a result of hard work was taught, students did well on exams.

I found the anecdote in the beginning of the article to be interesting. Aronson came across the stereotype of Jews as being rich by a realtor. He then told her that he and his wife are not rich and that they are Jewish. He then had a conflicting moment when paying for the restaurant bill: If he paid for the bill, he would reinforce the stereotype that Jewish people are rich. If he did not pay for the bill, he would reinforce the stereotype that Jewish people are cheap. This goes for every ethnic/racial group. I hate it when people label all Muslims as terrorists. Whenever an attack occurs, the media and other people are quick to blame Muslims for these actions. Not all Muslims are terrorists and those who are, are not even true Muslims; their radical beliefs go against the true teachings of Islam.

-Anissa Daimally

Foner Chap 7: Going to School

I was saddened to learn that many immigrant children of the past had to drop out of school in order to help contribute to the family’s income. They had no choice: ‘‘But you don’t understand….Every little money that comes into the household counts. Celia must go working. We know it’s hard, but what can we do? There are three more [children] that must go through public school, no? Three more need shoes and shirts and dresses and food. There isn’t enough. My husband makes but very little. He is no more a young one. Wouldn’t we let Celia go if we could? Of course! Don’t talk foolish!” (192). This story broke my heart because the family was desperate and were forced to pull their child out of school in order to survive in the country.

It is terrible that the schools in the past wanted to suppress the immigrants native culture. They wanted them to become fully Americanized. District Superintendent Julia Richman “assigned teachers to patrol lunchrooms, restrooms, and school yards and told them to give demerits when the hated ‘jargon’ was heard; she encouraged teachers to wash out with soap the mouths of those who relapsed” (Foner 207). I think this was way too harsh and was promoting the idea that the American culture is superior above all others. I am glad that in today’s society, multicultural differences are praised. In fact, back in my high school, we had Multicultural day every year. During this day, everyone dressed up in their cultural clothes and brought in foods from their home country.

I found the quote, “Immigrant parents are typically more effective in keeping daughters away from the temptations of American youth culture and the ethos of the street because they subject the young women to greater controls and keep them more tied to the home than sons” (Foner 213) to be particularly interesting. I don’t believe that this quote is true for many cases. I know of many girls who rebel because of the excessive control of their parents. They usually indulge in the so called “American youth culture” and go clubbing, drinking and smoking there, without their parents having a clue about what is going on in their daughter’s lives.

-Anissa Daimally

Foner Chapter 6: Transnational ties

In this chapter, Foner focuses on the transnational ties that past immigrants held and contemporary immigrants continue to hold today. Linda Basch defines transnationalism as the “processes by which immigrants ‘forge and sustain multi-standard social relations that link together their societies of origin and settlement” (Foner 169). Immigrants maintain the familial, economic, cultural and political connections with their home country.

I found it interesting that thousands of Dominicans actually flew back to their home country to vote in a presidential election. Furthermore, I was intrigued that those who actually lived in the United States could still run for office in the Dominican Republic. It is very thoughtful and heartwarming for the Dominican Republic government to say that it was okay if the Dominicans had to become citizens and that the country will still welcome them with open arms.

Technology has also made transnational connections easier for contemporary immigrants. For example, my family travels back to Guyana every couple of years to visit our family that still live there. Because of the inexpensive air fare, we are able to do this frequently. Furthermore, because of technology, we can easily find out what is going on with our family on a daily basis through telephones and Facebook. My family also keeps up with Guyana’s politics. My uncle always looks online at Guyanese news sites to keep up with what is going on in the country. He also buys newspapers that relate the Guyanese news.

-Anissa Daimally

 

Chapter 7: Coming to School

– It was so hard to read that so many Jewish students would start school and not finish. Although I knew that these students needed to get a job in order to contribute to the family income, I still couldn’t accept such as a justifiable reason. I know that income at the turn of the last century wasn’t easy to come by, but did one less income of a child in school cause the entire family to be in such dire economic needs. I believe in the long run it would have been more beneficial for Jewish children and immigrants at the time to finish school. Were people unable to rationalize the fact that by finishing school one would have a higher earning potential.

-Did people at the time only think about the here and now rather than the distant future?

-When one considers programs such as the state’s Educational Opportunity Program, there is no reason why disadvantaged students and those from immigrant household should be unable to attend college. The state college system is very conducive to accommodating to low-income families and those individuals who may not have had the best grades due to their socioeconomic standing. The only people who should be facing a problem are those individuals that are undocumented. As an undocumented individual, one can’t apply for financial aid or to college as a social security number is needed.

-Ashley Haynes 

Chapter 6:Transnational Ties

-When one considers that most immigrants come here to send funds home and eventually return to their native land, it is beyond my understanding how most immigrants are now only known for trying to get over, especially in the case of illegal immigrants. In the case of the undocumented they are more than willing to pay their dues to society through taxes, it is only a matter of not being able to since they are not suppose to be here. I believe more people should be reminded of the fact that immigrants are in reality no different from native-born Americans. Both groups of people work equally as hard. Immigrants provide for their families and try to better their standing in society just as native-born Americans. The only difference is that immigrants usually send their funds back home while native-born Americans try to improve their lives here.

-It is truly unbelievable how long it used to take for letters or immigrants to travel back home. However, I guess that such a reality makes it even more amazing how technology has improved transnational communications. Technology, as the book points out has “increased the density, multiplicity, and the importance of transnational interconnections and made it possible for the first time for immigrants to operate more or less simultaneously in a variety of places.” It no longer takes two weeks for communication between immigrants in the US to reach back home through letters. People can now use telephones and services such as Skype and oovoo to not only communicate but to see each other as well. Likewise, people can simply hop on a plane to check up on family and establishments they may have set up in their native land.

-Ashley Haynes

Stereotypes and Multigeneration Asians

(Response to Aronson article and Tuan article)

The Aronson article discusses racial stereotypes as they affect educational success. The Tuan article talks about Asian Americans as a minority-majority and how they as an identity differ or don’t differ from other minorities and whites. As an Asian female growing up in America, I often found that some of my high school peers didn’t see my academic success as my own but rather as a product of my race, which was obviously frustrating and wrong. Because of that, I definitely connect to both articles. What I think I find most interesting about the Asian American dilemma is that others consider Asian Americans to be outsiders (as Tuan discusses), like other immigrants and minorities are considered to be outsiders, however they are also considered to be academically and socioeconomically on par or better than many of the white majority. It’s such a strange juxtaposition of the stereotyping of the race, and yet stereotypes do end up defining people – even when one consciously tries to be the opposite of the stereotype.

The Strength of Weak Ties

Granovetter writes, “the strength of a tie is a… combination of the amount of time, the emotional intensity, the intimacy (mutual confiding), and the reciprocal services which characterize the tie” (1361). Granovetter says that the factors that make up these ties are not interdependent, but are highly intracorrelated; these ties can be strong, weak, or absent. He says that ties are often weak when there is alienation, yet weak ties are important to both individuals and communities. I think that it is interesting to see how a network that is considered to be weak can also be considered a positive thing, almost in its negativity. I suppose it is how you define a weak ties, ie an acquaintance, that makes its weakness not a negative but rather simply a scale of how well people know each other. And if you think of it like that, then it does make sense that having acquaintances will help communities to become stronger in the end. The position of trust as almost a benchmark for when a weak tie becomes strong also makes sense, just in terms of how we think about relationships on a day to day basis.

Immigrants and Assimilation

The main discussion of the Waters and Jimenez article, “Assessing Immigrant Assimilation: New Empirical and Theoretical Challenges” is the assimilation of immigrants. One thing that Waters and Jimenez discuss is the changes in demographics of immigrants in the new places that they enter from. Another thing  that was discussed was the influence that immigrants have on the communities that they enter in their new country (ie. the United States). A third thing that was discussed was the factors that contribute to analysis of assimilation which included socioeconomic status, spatial concentration, language, and intermarriage. As a foreign language learner, I find the discussion of language as a key player in assimilation to be an interesting topic. However, what I found most interesting was intermarriage between races and how that is considered to be a definite sign that the minority party has been assimilated into the “white, native” culture. I think that it’s interesting to study intermarriage because of how shunned it was earlier on in immigration history; people thought that it just wouldn’t happen, that people would not marry outside of their own race and culture, but they were proven wrong.

How the Other Half Lives

After visiting the LES Tenement Museum, I found it very interesting to learn that such houses used to house those who were well-off. I suppose it makes sense, though, if you look at the rooms in the LES Tenement Museum and try to imagine them without the partitions. Before they tried to cram entire families into a single room, the entire building probably would have been nice for one family. Obviously, though, using these buildings as they began to do for the large pouring of immigrants was profitable and was one way to house them. I was disgusted to read about the owner who blamed the tenants for the conditions that the building ended up in, but to be honest it’s not that different from owners today. I thought that made it much worse, that you could connect what happened back then to nowadays and still see similarities in the worse ways. A lot of what Riis wrote about in the late 1800s, Foner talks about in one way or another (and connects to more modern conditions) and we saw and heard with our own eyes and ears when we visited the LES Tenement Museum. Because he was writing when a lot of it was happening, it’s interesting to see a slightly different point of view, without as much of the hindsight.

Chapters 6 and 7

In Chapter 6, “Transnational Ties,” Foner discusses what leading a transnational life means. This is obviously important because most people who move to another country, don’t instantaneously lose contact with those they left behind. Today it’s obviously a much easier to hold onto those that don’t move with you, as there is modern technology that keeps you up to date almost instantly. As we saw in the movie we watched in class, though, in the past it wasn’t so easy. If one didn’t know how to write, you had to hire someone to transcribe a letter for you, and it could take a very long time to get that letter where you wanted it to go and then to get a reply.

In Chapter 7, “Going to School,” Foner discusses culture and race as factors that play into educational success. Obviously, there are stereotypes about this that play into how people perceive one’s educational success based on that person’s culture and race. However, I think what’s more interesting is her discussion of how most immigrant parents that come to New York, now, come with positive attitudes towards education in the US and their expectations for their children’s educational success in the US. I think this makes sense because people do see the US as being such a superpower, but what’s interesting is that statistics do not have the US leading in education – worldwide.

Chapters 3 and 4

In Chapter 3, “The Work They Do,” Foner focuses on immigrants as a whole in the workplace. In Chapter 4, “Immigrant Women and Work,” Foner focuses on immigrant women in the workplace. Both chapters focus on the workplace and how it has changed for immigrants. In Chapter 3 she talks about the differences in types of work that immigrants do, due to the changes in the types of immigrants (those with more educational background than before) that come into the United States. In Chapter 4 she talks about the differences in who is working – older women enter the workforce later, after having children, and stay in the workplace, rather than staying at home and sending young daughters to work. I found this interesting because when we went to the LES Tenement Museum, we discussed the daughters of the families going to work and how their parents would blame them if they were fired even though the conditions for firing were so strange.

Chapter 5

In Chapter 5, “The Sting of Prejudice,” begins by discussing the differences in the ethnicities of immigrants as well as those already living in New York City. Earlier on, those immigrating to the United States were mostly white, but later on different ethnicities started to come into the US and they found more and more diversity in NYC when they did arrive. The main discussion of Chapter 5, though, is the actual idea of what race is, and what comes from that (racism). In the earlier days, Jews and Italians found heavy prejudice against them, even though nowadays they are mostly seen as fitting into the “white” category. Foner writes, “Racial differences may seem permanent and immutable – as if they are inevitable and “natural” – but, in fact, race is a changeable perception” (142).

Response to The Stereotype Threat

The article introduced a new and relatively uncommon point of view on stereotypes and how they affect grades that students receive. The article says how seriously stereotypes affect students because they take the exams worrying that they are judged by the stereotype. Studies show how students underperform because they believe that those who are going to be evaluating their scores will do so with an attitude of certain students being inferior.

I like that these studies were done in the first place because, like the author pointed out, it seems like a difficult thing to think of since people are usually caught with thinking that the low performance is the fault of poverty, or the children’s families, or other stereotypical factors. These studies clearly showed that students’ performance varies based on the type of exam they are taking because they are expecting different types of evaluation. It is important to let more schools and the government and all people know about this trend and hope that schools will begin adjusting the types of exams they give out accordingly. In addition, this precise type of study works to get rid of stereotypes and therefore it should become more famous for that as well.

I’ve also been having my own little problem with certain “stereotypes” and classifications, and maybe this type of study is a step toward getting rid of those problems. For example, I don’t like how it is assumed that just because you are white, you are privileged. I’ve felt like it leaves out people who are immigrants, especially students who are recent immigrants. Just because you are white doesn’t mean you are privileged or have it better than other groups. It is not solely about grades, but also about the network and knowing how things in this society work, both of which, in my experience, a lot of immigrant students are not fully informed of because those same things are different in their culture, and they don’t find out about certain opportunities until it is too late.

The stereotype threat

Aronson discusses how the interaction between race and education could produce extremely debilitating results for certain groups of students. In particular focusing on stereotypes, which are distorted “facts” about specific races or groups, he discusses how their embedment in our culture affects the academic performance of African American and Latino students for example.

A 6-year-old child is already familiar with most stereotypes about specific groups, and that is the exact age at which the child stars elementary school. Being aware of a stereotype regarding your own race puts an even heavier load on your shoulder in an instructional environment, which is a place where a lot of mistakes are generally made. In fact, for example approaching a test is already a task that is usually accompained by anxiety, fear of failing. For an African American student, that anxiety is doubled by the fact that people think students of his race are stupid and will for sure do less well than White students. That extra anxiety is due to the fact that he will be responsible for feeding the stereotype if he fails. Aronson decided then to do experiments and see if by reducing the stereotype factor (for example by stating that in giving a test to students the only thing measured would have been the ability to approach a question rather than answering it correctly) the performance of these students would have changed. The results showed that African American students did much better if the stereotype factor was reduced.

So our whole educational system is a trap for minority groups affected by stereotype, because the whole end-of-the-semester-big-exam philosophy makes them vulnerable to the effects of the stereotype factor. Since we cannot eradicate stereotypes from our society (that being a whole bigger issue), we can definitely try to modify teaching systems so that these children have the same ability to succeed as everyone else.

Sara Camnasio

Foner – Chapter 7

Foner explores the educational patterns of early Jewish immigrants.  I find it completely understandable that few of these children of immigrant studied past eighth grade. Children’s contributions to income much more important in these circumstances, as they were needed for labor services and could work with an eighth grade diploma.

I was interested to find that native born minority students are often worse students than immigrant children.  I find this point intuitive, as the public school system offers a variety of programs to help them.  Furthermore, Foner draws attention to the fact that, if these students do well in school, it is their track to assimilating into the majority or minority middle class.

I found it particularly interesting that Foner considers culture and race as a factor that plays a role in educational success.  She cites the example of Chinese and Korean parents who value their children’s success in school as a way to measure their family’s respectability.  Educational success is also important to South Asian parents as well, and these parents tend to reiterate the “Asians-are-good-math” stereotype.  Below are some “desi” (of or pertaining to the subcontinent) rage comics that identify the importance of educational success to which  South Asian immigrant children are subjected by their parents.

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The first image draws attention to the pressure from parents to do well in school and receive high grades.  The second image, however, is perhaps more interesting.  It draws attention to the effect of parents’ attitudes on these children.  The comic, albeit an exaggeration, sheds light upon the way in which South Asian children themselves adopt the educational standards of their parents.

Foner – Chapter 6

I was shocked to learn about the attempts in NYC public schools to suppress expressions of culture or ethnicity.  These attempts were implemented to foresee the ultimate goal of Americanizing the children of immigrants. This truth because awareness and acceptance of cultural diversity is now encouraged and emphasized in schools, as evidenced by the pluralism and diversity component necessary to fulfill Hunter’s general education requirements.

Foner discusses the concept of leading a transnational life, an inevitable point considering the fact that one does not instantaneously lose his or her ethnic and cultural identity in a new locale.  Indeed ,an individual retains ties to the people, values, and language around which he or she grew up.  In the past, immigrants remained transnational by physically living in both countries – travelling back and forth – as was the case for Italian immigrants at the turn of the century.  Today, immigrants retain transnational links as a result of increased technological advances.  I use Skype, phone, (and sometimes the post!) to send and receive information and gifts, respectively, from relatives from abroad.

Further, Foner cites in the example of American Indians who watch “full-length videos of weddings” (178); I have done this many times before, and this is the way in which I have become familiar with a large majority of cousins that I have never even met before!  Foner further sheds light upon the fact that many Indians frequently visit – I can attest to this fact, as it is currently summer vacation in India and am thus in the midst of receiving relatives at the airport every weekend.

What are the legal policies that come into play when foreign candidates for office campaign to dual citizens in the United States?

 

Granovetter Response

In “The Strength of Weak Ties,”  Granovetter discusses the different connections that help people find jobs.  He says that weak ties are often seen as stemming from alienation; however, they are actually very important to the opportunities of individuals and to their integration into communities.  For example, weak ties often help immigrants find jobs.  Strong ties may lead to overall fragmentation although it may seem as if they foster unity.

One of the topics Granovetter explores is the idea of weak ties strengthening communities.  He says that is all of the people in a clique are only connected to each other then they will be negative affected; however, if they are connected to someone outside of their clique then they will benefit.  He uses the example that if a product is only taken seriously by one clique, then without a weak tie to another group the importance of this product or idea would not be transmitted.  Thus, each group would have to develop the idea in their own group.

Granovetter also relates this idea to trust, saying that people will more likely trust a leader if he has some kind of tie to someone who also know something about this leader and his or her trustworthiness.  On the other hand, leaders may feel more trustworthy or responsive to those who they are connected to within their network whether it be a weak, strong, indirect, or direct tie.

Waters and Jimenez Response

In “Assessing Immigrant Assimilation: New Empirical and Theoretical Challenges,” Waters and Jimenez study the assimilation of immigrant groups through four major factors:  socioeconomic status, spatial concentration, language assimilation, and intermarriage.

One of the concepts they address is intermarriage saying that it is the ultimate sign of assimilation.  It has been found that there are higher rates of intermarriage with whites and Asians or Latinos than between white people and black people.  Also, native-born people have higher intermarriage rates than foreign-born individuals.  I can make a bit of a connection to my family with regards to this point.  My mother’s parents were born in Germany and moved to America and then got married.  On the other hand my mom, who was born here, married my father who is Italian. They point out that size of the immigrant group and other constraints affect if that immigrant group will marry outside of their nationality.  I think that studying intermarriage is a great way to explore assimilation because it is one of the most obvious forms.

Foner Chapter 5

In Chapter 5:  The Sting of Prejudice, Foner explores racism towards immigrants.  One of Foner’s points in this chapter is that West Indian immigrants are often considered black although they strongly prefer not to be.  Foner says that West Indian refers to people of African descent from the English-speaking Caribbean.  To most New Yorkers, people who are West Indian are not seen as such, but they are simply lumped together with American blacks.  This can be seen in our own lives.  If you see someone from West Indian descent on the streets of New York you most likely won’t stop and think about where they came from or what specific nationality they are.  One of the things that stuck out to me was when Foner mentions a West Indian social worker who was not offered a magazine on a plane because he was the only black person.  Despite their nationality, education, age, or occupation, people who are deemed black often face injustice.

Another interesting point Foner made was the fact that in the time of the last great immigration wave, it was not clear what ethnic group Italians and Jews should be placed in.  This was fascinating because today these groups of people are largely considered white.  In the past, these people were considered part of “inferior mongrel races.”  It had been said that they would diminish the beauty and intelligence of the American people thus ruining the Anglo-Saxon image.  Foner says that Italians were often the subjects of name calling.  One of these was the term, guinea, which referred to African slaves.  I found this particularly interesting because I remember my grandpa saying how much he disliked that word, and whenever it was used he would disapprove.  My grandpa was born in New York, but he is from Italian descent, more specifically from Messina, Sicily.

Foner Chapter 4

In Chapter four, Foner focuses more on immigrant women’s place in the workforce.  One of the things that stuck out to me was the fact that despite the improvements in the lives of immigrant working women there are still many inequalities.  It is great that now more and more immigrant women have more education and training that those of the past.  Now, there are more opportunities for women in education and employment, and they are more able to manage on their own.  This is inspiring because immigrant women and their daughters can now aspire to higher careers.  Unfortunately, there is still gender inequality in the United States.  Many women still work in very low-status jobs or receive less pay than men.  Women are also dealing with more household duties than the men in their families.

Another aspect I found interesting was the fact that immigrant daughters were expected to go out and earn a living in often debilitating factory conditions.  Although it may have expanded their horizons, Foner points out that wages were low and their work was often dangerous.  One particular aspect of working daughters that stuck out was the fact that their pay contributed largely to the family’s income.  Foner states that Jewish daughters brought in about 40 percent of the household income, while Italian daughters brought in a bit less.  This goes along with the fact that many of them gave all of their pay to their parents.  Some immigrant daughters had to work to pay off their brothers’ education.  Reading what some of these daughters went through makes me even more appreciative of my opportunities in education in this time period.

Foner Chapter 3

In Chapter 3, Nancy Foner focuses on the work of immigrants.  She also compares the work of recent immigrants to past immigrants.  One of the interesting comparisons Foner makes is that no matter the time period, immigrants often come here for betterment of their families.  This often means taking whatever jobs they can find despite the wages.  In the past and today, jobs that immigrants find here often pay more than what their jobs did at home making this new work more appealing.  Even if the wages are actually not very good, they seem good at least at first compared to the money received at home.  Many immigrants earn money and send it back home.  They plan on returning back home eventually with the money they’ve earned so that their families are more well off.

Another topic Foner brings up is “niche development.”  People create their networks of people they know and use these links to find jobs.  Immigrants find jobs through their friends and family living in America.  This benefits employers and job seekers because people are being referred to employers and immigrants are finding jobs more easily.  As this process continues, one ethnic group tends to become associated with a certain occupation, like Chinese people working in garment factories.  We also see this today in the medical field where there are many Filipino women becoming nurses.  I see this in my own life where my friend’s mother is a Filipino women who not only is a nurse but a nursing teacher as well.

The World in a City

Berger describes the role of Distmas Park, a neighborhood in Brooklyn, within the context of metropolitan melting pot of cultures. Distmas Park seems to be the perfect model of multicultural community, as people from completely different backgrounds live right next to each other. What’s so peculiar about this place is the relationships and close ties generated through the years among these neighbors: individuals of very distant nationalities and background overcame their differences and co-existed through the years, sometimes even becoming friends.

One of the explanations of how this could be possible, which I thought was really interesting as it reminded me of Joe Salvo’s talk, is one of the local residents’ theory that there is a majority of many, there isn’t a majority of one. Basically, because the percentages of people from different backgrounds are pretty well balanced, and there isn’t necessarily a dominant group, people are willing to co-exist peacefully.

Another point that Berger brings up, though, it’s also that not all of these people love each other or appreciate each other; they –indeed–simply accept and tolerate each other. This could be applied to New York City in general, to why it is such a precious place in the world, model to multi-ethnical societies, since for example people in the subway are so culturally different and thrown in the same few-squared-feet train car space yet they learned how to accept and tolerate each other.

Questions: Is tolerating each other enough to be considered peaceful co-existing? Isn’t it almost like pretending you like someone?
What if what we are looking at right now in Distmas Park is simply too much of a momentaneous analysis, which could turn into something completely different in a few years? in other terms, could this be a timed-bomb or is it something that could actually last as a society?

Sara Camnasio

Jacob Riis: How the Other Half Lives

I was surprised to learn that the tenements that house immigrants were once the homes of aristocrats. The birth of tenements began when the need for cheap residential housing by the industrious poor arose. It was the greed of the wealthy and their exploitation of the necessities of the poor that resulted in the dilapidation of tenement buildings. Thus, the large rooms were partitioned into several smaller ones with no regards to ventilation. It is sad that this was the cause of most of the children’s death, as they simply died of suffocation due to bad air quality.

I found it ridiculous that the tenement owners blamed the unsanitary conditions on the people living there, claiming that their dirty ways were at fault. The proprietors were “utterly losing sight of the fact that it was the tolerance of those habits which was the real evil, and that for this they themselves were alone responsible” (Riis 9). Furthermore, I was flabbergasted at the fact that a tenement owner felt that he was “especially entitled to be pitied” for losing his building to a fire (Riis 11). I don’t think he even considered that the ten families that his building provided a home to were now on the streets with essentially nothing since all of their valuables were burned in the fire. These families are the true victims of the fire.

I was shocked to learn of a couple that committed suicide because they “were tired.” They lived in an attic with one window, a space where the residents could barely move. Furthermore, they paid a five dollars for this cramped up room. Their idea of America and the pursuit of the American dream were shattered. Who could blame them, their living conditions were deplorable and most of their income was probably going towards rent.

I was intrigued that both owners and tenants “considered official interference an infringement of personal rights, and a hardship” (Riis 16). Some tenants were losing their homes due to the new laws. There were instances were the police had to drag the tenants out by force. Usually, one would expect the tenants to be for reform, not against it. It is because of the loss of their homes that these tenants felt that the government was being intrusive.

-Anissa Daimally

Jacob Riis How The Other Half Lives Response

Initially, I found it very hard to believe that the tenement houses at the turn of the last century used to be the residence of the old Knickerbockers, the proud aristocracy of Manhattan in the early days. When I went into the tenement apartments, nothing inside of them mirrored affluent life. If such was the previous residence of prominent people, when did everything go terribly wrong?

However, once I continued on reading everything started to make more sense. It seems as though, through greed, owners partitioned large rooms into several smaller ones. As a result, there was no regard to light or ventilation. Then, sadly enough although such a reality was deplorable, it was more true to the nature of tenement life.

When I read that an owner mentioned in the reading felt as though he should be pitied for losing one of his tenement properties due to a fire, I was just like, “Are you kidding me.” Just because he would be losing six hundred dollars per year in rent as a result, such didn’t mean anything to me. All of the people he had cramped into the tenement would no longer have a place of residence. They essentially lost everything. Subsequently, they are the only ones who should be pitied. Then, when one considers that the same property the owner deemed so valuable was most likely unkempt, this only showed that in hindsight he really didn’t appreciate his property as he tried to allude to once it was gone.

Lastly, when I read that a hard-working family of young people from the old country had taken poison together in a Crosby Street tenement because they were “tired,” it only hit home harder how difficult life was back then for immigrants. When you considered that they lived in a room in the attic that had a “sloping ceiling and a single window so far out the roof that it seems not to belong to the place at all,” how can one disagree with their actions.

-Ashley Haynes

Walters & Jimenez Assimilation Article Response

It was very interesting to read about the new settlement locations of new immigrants. For the earlier European immigrants it made since for them to settle in metropolitan areas compared to more suburban ones. For example, by living in the city, the early European immigrants would be right in the heart of businesses through which they could get a job and not have to travel far to get there. However, now when one considers how modes of transportation have improved and the cost of living in the city has gone up compared to that of suburban areas, the opposite is true. It is now more sensible, overall, for immigrants to settle in more suburban areas due to the affordability.

Likewise, it was just as surprising to learn that immigrants are no longer settling in more established gateway locations as they did in the past. This was a bit of a shock because I had always figured that places like New York and California would always have a high immigration population. These two places would always be a strong magnet for subsequent generations of immigrants. In both New York and California, immigrants essentially have the best and most opportunities to be successful because of the established institutions already set up to accommodate them such as legal-aid bureaus, health clinics, social organizations, and bilingual services. However, I guess the pull factor from New York and California was far stronger than the push factors to stay there. For example, after reading about how legislation such as the Proposition 187 was passed in California, subsequently banning immigrants from accessing many publicly funded services, I didn’t blame immigrants for leaving.

My only hope is that in these settlement locations, immigrants can find a way to prosper as history has shown them doing in areas such as New York and California. The environments of new gateways are very conducive to assimilation as the article points out. In these new locations there is usually only “one high school, one public swimming pool, two large grocery stores, one YMCA, and one junior college.”  As a result, immigrants and native-born residents alike must share these few resources, impeding social isolation and facilitating interactions. Therefore, if only pre-established institutions in old gateways get set up in the newer locations, newer gateways should be even better than the older ones.

-Ashley Haynes

Chapter 5:The Sting of Prejudice

– “ It is unthinkable that so many persons with crooked faces, coarse mouths, bad noses, heavy jaws, and low foreheads can mingle their heredity with ours without making personal beauty yet more rare among us than it actually is.”

When I read the above sentiment, I was flabbergasted. I found it to be very deplorable how someone could claim that non native-born Americans could somehow cause an impurity and tainted state to the native gene pool. If one only takes into account Science such a claim holds no weight. Externally one person obviously differs from the next. However, in terms an individual’s internal makeup everything is the same with the exception of DNA.

-It was also bvery interesting and surprising to read that even Jacob Riis, a social reformer, used racial stereotypes in his classic expose “How the Other Half Lives.” I believe that although one may not intentionally seek to rely on stereotypes, it is apart of a human innate being. Stereotypes are usually a pre-known generalization that one relies upon like clichés. However, such doesn’t justify there negative connotation.

-“In 1990, a quarter of the Dominicans in NYC, compared to 13 percent of the Cubans and 3 percent of Columbians, described themselves on the census as black.”

When I read the passage above, I was reminded of Foner’s How Exceptional is New York article. In the article, I didn’t know how the census was able to report that Cubans who are phenotypically white or light skinned in the Miami metropolitan area identified as white on their census forms. Likewise, in Foner’s book I still don’t know how the people who are affiliated with the census are able to know that most Dominicans identified as blak while others did not. ? Do they send out workers to estimate the validity of these forms? Do people check more than one book on their census forms?

-“There has been a gradual racialization of Hispanics—-a belief that physical characteristics, particularly skin color, are involved.”

When I came across the previously quoted line in the reading, I was reminded of the Arizona Law passed to combat the problem of illegal immigration. In Arizona most Hispanics are automatically stigmatized as “illegal imposters” in this country. After a two struggle, the Arizona law enforcing agencies now require officers to check the immigration status of anyone they suspect is in the country illegally. Wearing the wrong clothes, speaking with the wrong accent or having the wrong skin color could land you in hot water in Arizona. However, I believe there is a better way to combat the issue of illegal immigration because assuming that all or most Hispanics are undocumented is pure discrimination.

-Ashley Haynes

Foner – From Ellis Island to JFK (Chapters 3+4)

In chapter 3 of Nancy Foner’s From Ellis Island to JFK the focus is the employment of immigrants, both old and new. Once again, we see how important networks are for immigrants being able to find jobs. Just as we saw in Sewing Women, workers were often recommended by family members or friends. Employers were more than happy to offer these immigrants jobs for they knew that these workers would work hard, so as not to discredit their sponsors. These workers didn’t complain, so oppressing them wasn’t any sort of risk. Additionally, certain industries were dominated by one or another race, which made getting a job in that industry difficult for a member of a different race. This was the case in garment factories described in Sewing Women, where only Chinese women were hired. Today, such exclusivity is rare, and both neighborhoods and job industries are becoming more and more diverse.

The jobs that immigrants were able to find upon their arrival were blue collar jobs that didn’t require much knowledge of the English language or an education. Foreign degrees and certifications were not considered valid proof of one’s eligibility to be the doctor or lawyer one was educated to be. Even today, immigrants who used to be white collar workers who had relatively prestigious jobs in their home countries can’t work in the fields in which they have educations because they have foreign degrees. Jobs in blue collar jobs are less strict about foreign degrees, but it is still very tough to get a job in the correct field from the get-go. Immigrants who are skilled and “specialized” end up working right beside the unskilled who may not even be literate in their native languages, let alone English. When will there be a push for more equal opportunity (pardon the cliché) for immigrants, especially in a big city like New York.

Chapter 4 went on to talk about the lives of immigrant women specifically. Until quite recently (four or five decades), women were not at all considered to be men’s equals. They weren’t expected to work, and were even disallowed from doing so. The only occupation that a woman was to have was being a housewife. The census data that we saw at the LES Tenement Museum was proof of this, as the wives in the families didn’t have jobs listed. What I find to be interesting is that children were allowed to work from the age of twelve, regardless of gender, but upon getting married, a woman was to stay at home. The man in the family was not to feel inferior to his woman. No, no, no.  If a woman did happy to work, under no circumstances was her income to exceed that of her husband.

Nowadays much is different, as women and men have equal employment opportunities and gender is disregarded by hirers and spouses. Women often carry more than half of the load that Foner mentions, because many continue to wash the dishes, do the laundry, clean the home, and do other things around the house. However, now, additionally, they work full-time jobs, some more physically taxing than those held by males. Even so, women are still viewed as unfit for certain jobs by a number of employers worldwide, although this isn’t expressed openly as it was prior.

Foner – From Ellis Island to JFK (Chapter 2)

In chapter two of From Ellis Island to JFK, Nancy Foner sets down certain distinctions between the new wave immigrants, and those of the first wave. The living conditions were much worse for immigrants who came before the 20th century, than they are for those who come today and who came in the 1900s. First wave immigrants tried to live in Manhattan, where most of the jobs were, as the subway system didn’t exist until the early 1900s and it took a while for it to become efficient. Neighborhoods were racially homogenous, and a Jewish person straying into an Italian neighborhood could have turned into a very ugly situation. Today, many such ethnic neighborhoods still exist, many more than Foner acknowledges. However, in general, today’s New York City neighborhoods are far more diverse than ever prior, and the homogenous ghettos of the past are all but gone. The heavily ethnic neighborhoods today are often dominated by a couple of races, not just one, and there is constant change in the demographics of every neighborhood, as Joe Salvo clearly proved to us in his talk back in January.

The tenements that immigrants inhabited were described as being unfit to support satisfactory living conditions. Our tour of the LES Tenement Museum is clear proof of this. There was no electricity, no plumbing, and very little space. Bathrooms and water pumps were outside, and they were shared by many people. Moving out of the tenements and into another borough was unthinkable, as the commute to work would be all but impossible. Hence, immigrant families had to live with what they had, and hope for better times. These “better times” did come, for 1920s families had electricity, running water, and bathrooms indoors. Unfortunately, the tenements were still very crowded and they were shut down, only to be replaced by the projects, which are infamous today for being the worst neighborhoods of New York City.

What is truly amazing is Foner’s claim that some immigrant families live in worse conditions today than did first wave immigrants who lived in the early tenements. How can it be so that in such a technologically advanced era, life in a city as huge and as well-known as New York can be so tough? Foner explains that nowadays, many immigrants lead lower middle class to middle class lives right off the bat, so why can’t this be universal. Are we truly incapable of providing satisfactory conditions for all immigrants in NYC, or are we simply not willing enough, or even unwilling to help them?

Foner – From Ellis Island to JFK (Chapter 1)

In chapter one of From Ellis Island to JFK, Nancy Foner goes into a general description of the members of second of the two large waves of immigrants into the U.S., how they came, who they were, etc. The second wave, which is obviously the more recent of the two, was very diverse, with people coming from all over the world. In contrast, in the first wave, most of the immigrants came from Europe. It was not at all surprising for me to read that those who held high positions and had relatively high-paying jobs in their home countries couldn’t get the same jobs here. Degrees received in other countries were never accepted as valid proof of one’s eligibility to hold one or another position. Even today, this is firmly so. I found it to be rather unfortunate that the immigrants had to work their way up the metaphorical social ladder again, once they got here, especially considering how tough their journeys were. However, it appears that some of these “better” jobs in immigrants’ home countries paid less than did the blue collar jobs they got in the U.S., as Foner illustrates by means of the example of the babysitter from Brazil. The ships were infested with various critters, not at all clean, and densely packed. It’s truly amazing to me that so many people were able to pass the medical exams on Ellis Island having gone through two weeks of living in such unhygienic conditions. The immigrants were willing to endure these hardships in hope of having better opportunity in the U.S. and/or escaping religious or racial oppression, common reasons for the decision to emigrate from one’s home country. On this point, I was pleased that Foner pointed out that these reasons for immigration are extremely oversimplified. She explained that a number of varying factors contributes to the making of the final decision, and all but claims the aforementioned reasons to be incorrect deductions. These were the conditions that LEGAL immigrants had to bear. ILLEGAL immigrants have a much tougher time getting here, because they have to cross the border without being discovered, and finding work that pays at least somewhat well can be very difficult, especially as the number of illegals accumulates.

Foner: From Ellis Island to JFK Chp 4

This chapter focuses on the roles of immigrant women in America both then and now. According to Foner, Jewish and Italian women in the 1900s were expected to simply follow men. They were expected to stay at home and raise the children. Luckily, today more immigrant families are adapting to America’s standards of equal gender responsibility within a family. Also for immigrant girls today it is more common to get an education whereas in the1900s, immigrant girls were forced to work in factories whereas the boys were encouraged to get an education.

What also fascinated me about this chapter was the prevalence of the man’s ego in the women’s decision to work. While some immigrant families have moved away from a male dominated family when coming to America, there are still continued traditional gender roles to uphold he man’s pride. For example, some women take lower  pay so that their husbands wouldn’t feel that they lost their superiority or masculinity to “bring home the bacon.” Men are also the ones who are more likely today to cling to these traditions despite the image of the modern women in America, pressuring their wives to stay home. This is where I believe it is important for these immigrant families to adapt American practice. Immigrant men need to understand that the American women is powerful, and capable of having a job and taking care of children.  Men also are expected to take household responsibilities. It is an equal partnership which many immigrant families should and will eventually have to adapt to.

Foner: Ch. 4

I was very surprised while reading this chapter.  I have heard of many of these facts and figures before, but reading them all within this chapter really changed my view of the immigration into the United States and especially New York City.  The idea that girls were forced into working for their families while their brothers were able to get an education and ‘roam the streets’ is one hundred percent unfair.  Gender inequality is something I think should be mended and changed all throughout the world.  Women and men are meant to be equals, they may be built differently, however women have the same intellectual abilities as men that should not have kept the in factories and helping caring for the children at home instead of getting an education.  The girls in these families would sit in a factory, hours on end and come home and hand their paycheck directly to their mothers, in order to help support the family.  What really surprised me was in the case of one of the girls, where she was the main financial supporter of the family, because her mother stayed home to care for the younger children and her father worked irregularly.  Girls worked hard in coming to this country, and were not treated fairly, as seen with tragedies such as the Triangle Shirtwaist Factory fire.

Women were not even treated fairly at home, when they had to stay as their brothers went to school.  The anecdotes of the some immigrant women throughout the reading was shocking as well.  The fact that women took lower pay so that their husbands would not have a low ego and lose his superiority complex enrages me.  ‘If I went to Korea, he would starve to death,’ clearly shows how is stronger in the marriage, yet women had, and in most cases, still have less power than men.

Foner Reading: Ch. 5

It is unfortunately seen that throughout history and even today in the United States and throughout the world, there is still prejudice and discrimination against different racial and ethnic groups for one reason or another.  Even in one of the most diverse places in our country has faced harsh diversity in its history as an immigrant city, New York City.  From once believing that people of Jewish and European origins were not considered white it is hard to imagine that different discriminations still occur today.  Today there are more blacks and West Indians who are discriminated against and stereotyped, simply because of the color of their skin.  In this chapter Foner brought up different examples of black teenagers have been followed while in stores as managers and workers were checking to make sure they were not stealing, other innocent bystanders who clutch their bags and wallets when an equally innocent black teenager, male in particular, walks by.  In my own personal experience I have talked to students and peers who have had similar situations happen to them, even though they would never think of stealing anything from anybody.

Foner’s discussion of the Hispanic immigration was also interesting, bringing up different topics of conversation.  For example, in todays society people have been afraid that the high rates of immigration is leading to the downfall of what it means to be an ‘American’.  As more people move in from outside countries, some believe that our ideals and image of the United States will not be upheld.  I for one do not think that, I think the immigration of people into the United States is what makes us so unique, particularly New York City, where there is an enormously diverse and interesting array of people.  We have so much to learn from different cultures that discriminating against anyone purely because of the way they look would be a tremendous loss for the city and even the country.

Foner – Chapters 3 & 4

I found it interesting that a large majority of Korean immigrants do not speak to one another about their current occupation, their past occupation, and their occupation level.  This limitation is put in place by the bitterness that oftentimes accompanies a decline in prestige, as many Korean immigrants were professionals in their native country.  Foner draws attention to the “downward occupational mobility” (90) experienced by many of today’s newcomers.  As mentioned in the beginning of From Ellis Island to JFK, the new wave of immigrants is significantly more diverse occupationally and educationally when compared with the majority of immigrants that came at the turn of the century.  The phenomenon of downward economic mobility refers to situations in which immigrants take up jobs in the receiving country for which they are overqualified.  Oftentimes, such individuals are professionals (doctors, lawyers, teachers, engineers) in their home country, but take up menial jobs in New York because of “unfamiliarity with the English language and American culture” (91).  Another major factor includes the fact professional certificates from other countries are often not recognized in America.

What are the pros and cons of immigrants with limited English language proficiency taking up jobs that do not require much face-to-face interaction with patients or the public?

Further, Foner presents a lucid picture of the situation of immigrant women and the work that they do.  She draws attention to the fact that women, as a result of migration, do not necessarily escape traditional patriarchal codes and practices; gender inequalities remain intact.  I was, however, surprised to read that “More women come on their own rather than follow in the footsteps of men” (123).  I was previously unaware of the presence of women pioneer immigrants, as all of the female immigrants I know came with their families.  Foner cites the example of Jamaican women who moved to New York on their own to be live-in domestic workers; such women later sent money for plane tickets to their children and husbands.

I also found it interesting that turn-of-the-century women – in taking on homework or boarders – actually increased their responsibilities, domestic or otherwise.  Foner draws attention to the fact that women’s employment today transforms family relationships.  Husbands often help out with domestic responsibilities, thus changing the balance of power in immigrant households.

Foner: From Ellis Island to JFK Chp 3

Education is so important in America to get a good job and become successful. But for immigrants coming to this country, there is even more at stake. According to Foner today’s immigrants can be divided into two “camps”: those with college degrees and those with little education. In order for these immigrants to thrive it is so vital for them to have education. Yet the ironic thing is that many of these educated immigrants still do not get the same job opportunities they would have gotten in their own country.

Foner also compares they type os jobs of immigrants today and immigrants of the past. Many of the jobs from the 1900s required manual labor, whereas today what determines whether you are hired or even interviewed is if you have a college degree or not. Immigrants without college degrees have a very hard time finding good, well-paying jobs which is ironic considering how expensive college degrees are so even if an immigrant wanted to go to school in America, it would be very difficult.

Questions: Why are immigrants with higher education placed in these lower position jobs in America? Is it because their degrees from their home countries are not seen as prestigious or relevant to American society? Is this reflection of American prejudice against immigrants even in current society? How can we ensure that more doctors and lawyers who come to this country do not suffer the same fate?

Granovetter: The Strength of Weak Ties

In this paper, Granovetter attempts to link macro-interactions with micro-interactions through interpersonal networks. Granovetter defines the strength of a tie as “a combination of the amount of time, the emotional intensity, the intimacy, ad the reciprocal services which characterize the tie” (1361). There are weak ties, strong ties, and absent ties. In this paper, Granovetter states that weak ties function as bridges while strong ties cannot exist as bridges. Weak social ties are responsible for the structure of social networks and how the information is transferred between members of society.

I found it interesting that Granovetter used mathematical sociology to prove his theory. He noted individuals with letters, making it easier for one to understand his theory, and symbolized the connection between individuals through an unconnected triangle (basically a 45 degree angle). I liked this because then I was able to visualize the connection and bridges between individuals.

I was shocked to find that weak ties are actually more efficient that strong ties. Granovetter gives several examples to prove this claim. One example was of a rumor being spread; if close friends were spreading the rumor to other close friends, the rumor would be heard twice or thrice among the close-knit group. However, if friends of these close friends were to hear the rumor, that is the information is spread through weak ties, the rumor would spread more widely.

I also didn’t realize that the majority of people who got their jobs through contacts only saw these contacts occasionally. In my mind, I thought that those who got jobs from contacts were actually close friends with these contacts. Like Granovetter states, “It is remarkable that people receive crucial information from individuals whose very existence they have forgotten” (1372).

-Anissa Daimally

The World in a City

Is it possible to have a utopian melting pot neighborhood? This is the question I really thought about as I read Berger’s writing about Ditmas Park. I was born and raised in New York City and I had never heard of Ditmas Park before reading this chapter which says something about this melting pot area. If it such a representation of assimilated culture and diversity, why isn’t it known more by New Yorkers?Berger argues that Ditmas Park defies the mosaic theory in Brooklyn which is very prevalent. Even the neighborhood that I am researching, Sheepshead Bay, there is a clear distinction between the Chinese and the Russians with very little interaction. Ditmas Park is a representation of cultures crossing those boundaries and making an effort to get to know the people from other ethnicities in their community. Ditmas Park abides by the social contact theory described by Putnam where people learn to tolerate and accept other people’s cultures by being in contact with them. However, Berger also mentions that even in this ideal place there is tension between the ethnic groups which has resulted in violence. This seems to prove that there really is no such thing as an ideally assimilated  neighborhood. I wonder how long this melting pot neighborhood will actually last. However, I do appreciate that there are places where people from different cultures can come to appreciate each other and not just tolerate each other as it seems is so common in New York, one of the most diverse places in the world.

 

Foner: From Ellis Island to JFK Chp 2

This chapter really coordinated with our trip to the Lower East Side. Our tour guide at the beginning of the tour had talked about how more people lived in the Lower East Side than the rest of New York during the early 1900s. I was so surprised to learn this considering that the Lower East Side is not that large compared to Manhattan but after reading about the conditions and seeing the tenements I understood why. The tenements were cramped and held families of seven or eight people. There was very poor lighting, and unsanitary conditions. It made me wonder why so many people would move to the Lower East Side once word of such horrendous circumstances spread. But then I realized that these people are coming from a foreign land and they would want to be near other people just like them, even if that means living in dirt and dilapidated homes. Also, of course, not many places of living were  offered to these immigrants and they had to take whatever opportunity they could get.

It’s interesting to see what these ethnic neighborhoods in the Lower East side have become today. While Chinatown is still thriving, other neighborhoods such as Little Italy are slowly dwindling away. Even if you look around Manhattan, besides Chinatown there are very few ethnic neighborhoods. Little Korea is only about two blocks and Little India takes over a few streets on Lexington Avenue.  Why are there so few ethnic neighborhoods left in Manhattan?

Foner: From Ellis Island to JFK Chp 1

The differences between immigrants from the early and mid 1900s to today are astounding. There are the more obvious differences, such as how the immigrants came to America. (As indicated by the title, immigrants form the 1900s took cramped, weeks long boat rides to Ellis Island, whereas today immigrants can hop on a plane to JFK). Foner, however pointed out some more intricate details that differ between the immigrants of today versus those of the 1900s. Firstly, the intentions of the two immigrants groups coming to America are vastly different. One reason Foner points out for today’s immigrants is because they can immigrate to America. During the 1900s because of all the restrictive laws placed, it was very hard for immigrants, especially from certain countries, to come to this country. Now, immigrants take advantage of the freedom they have to come to America. Also, many immigrants today come over to either find work or because they already have a job which has location in America. (This was the case with my interviewee for the oral history report). However, regardless of whether the immigrants came in the 1900s or today they all came to America in the hopes of a better and new life.

They don’t aways get the life they are searching for. Foner points out that many of the immigrants today are not poor and uneducated which was the case with most immigrants from the 1900s. Many immigrants come from their countries educated, with degrees to be doctors and lawyers. They are not always offered the same types of jobs in America and thus have to take whatever job they can get which is such a sad waste of education and talent. I wonder how we can remedy such a situation.

Emma Park-Hazel

From Ellis Island to JFK (Chapter 5)

In Chapter 5: The Sting of Prejudice, it was interesting to learn that Italians and Jews were once discriminated against as well. Today we associate them as part of the broad category of “white”. However, in the past, they were considered a separate and inferior group. This showed how racism was not always a white versus black matter. In order to assert supremacy, groups actually create hierarchies within themselves to distinguish certain individuals from others. This also shows how categorizing people and social hierarchies are almost a part of human nature, and will arise no matter the situation.

What I also found interesting was how society and the government used the same tactics to isolate groups that they saw were inferior, specifically the Jews and the Asians. For the Jews, they pointed out specific physical features and behavioral traits that were deemed unassimilable. As a result, Jews as a whole were constructed as outsiders of society, making it easier to openly discriminate against them. Similarly, for Asians, they were classified as unassimilable as well, based on cultural and language differences. As a result, it was acceptable for the government to distinguish them as a separate group, make laws against them, and exclude them from society as much as possible.

The mention of prejudice between minority groups was also interesting, especially the relationship between Asians and blacks. There seems to be a preconception of blacks that parents tend to pass on to their children from a young age. As a result, children grow up believing blacks are a group of people with certain traits and learn to not associate with them without even giving them a chance.  This shows how racism and prejudice are largely a social construction and results from a misunderstanding between groups.

-Wendy Li

From Ellis Island to JFK (Chapter 4)

In Chapter 4: Immigrant Women and Work, the sentence that I found particularly interesting was, “ The Chinese say that women hold up half the sky…” (109). Growing up, I’ve heard my mother say this phrase many times. However, as I got older I realized how this was untrue on many levels, as Foner points out as well. I thought women always did more than their share as they tried to balance family and work. Although my mother was under a great deal of stress, she had no one to complain to because she saw it as her responsibility. This phrase, I felt, was a way to empower her in her times of stress. It allowed her to keep working, knowing that what she was doing was important to the family as well.

What was also interesting in this chapter was how Foner describes how life in America increased the freedom and power of women in the household. Even though the depiction of the immigrant experience is filled with hardship and suffering, it is good to know that there were benefits that women experienced as well. This change, however, probably contributed to the assimilation of other cultures in to American culture. Women are more likely to give up their traditions, if they saw them as oppressive, and adopt the American culture and pass those ideas onto their children. Men were probably the ones to hold on to their traditions more because releasing that grasp would mean lowering the amount of power they held in the household.

-Wendy Li

From Ellis Island to JFK (Chapter 3)

In Chapter 3: The Work They Do, Foner mentions the typical job for Chinese men. I found this interesting because in Sewing Women, we focused only on the garment industry, which was the job of a woman. However, Foner goes into more detail about the men’s job in the restaurant and its rigid work schedules. It would have been interesting if Foner described what the typical workday for a male restaurant worker was. My uncle works as a chef in a restaurant and has mentioned how the conditions in the kitchen put workers at risk for certain health problems as well. Learning more about the “man’s job” would paint a more complete picture of the immigrant experience for a Chinese family in New York City.

One question I had was that if a man worked in a restaurant and performed tasks like dishwashing, waiting tables, or cooking, would he be more likely to do those tasks at home as well, rather than leaving it to the wife?

The way Foner mentions the restaurant industry also explains why Chinatown has so many restaurants. They catered first to the male sojourners who did not have women to cook for them and then later expanded to cater to the tourist industry. This makes sense and explains why Chinatown is packed with restaurants that offer all types of Chinese and Asian food in general.

-Wendy Li

Granovetter Strength of Weak Ties

Comments:

– Granovetter Strength of Weak Ties opened my eyes to a new reality. I had always assumed that the stronger the ties you shared with someone the better connected one would be with the macro discussions of social culture. Those more strongly connected individuals would be more inclined to help one another. However the results in the reading really made me realize that weak ties have just as good and in most cases better overall effects.

Questions:

-Are weaker ties said to be better than stronger ties because in all situations the results prove this to be true? If so wouldn’t this sentiment disregard the fact that there may be a small number of incidents where this isn’t necessarily true?

-Are weaker ties said to be better than stronger ties because in most cases the results prove to be more beneficial? Therefore, if it is true for the majority of the time, does this imply that weaker ties are better than stronger ties, overall?

-Ashley Haynes

Chapter 4: Immigrant Women and Work

It was appalling how even when women were able to have a life outside of the household, not much change. As the reading notes, “young women’s expanded wage-earning role in New York did not translate into economic independence or control.” It seems as though before women were able to have the liberties seen today which includes managing their own money and being completely independent of a man in the sense that they can support their own self, women in the past seemed to have been pulled back before being able to trudge forward.

-When I read the sentiment of a Russian man saying, “Thank God, I’m not a woman.’ A girl wasn’t much,” I couldn’t believe a man of the time period could say such a thing. I understand that at the turn of the last century women didn’t have many rights but that doesn’t mean to be one was somehow bad. If it weren’t for the hard household labor of women, men wouldn’t have been able to function. It was the women who cleaned, cooked, did laundry, ironed and cared for the children while their husbands went out to work. If it is just trying for me to read the list, I can only imagine how it felt for a woman of the time period to do all of those pre-mentioned tasks.

-Did men of this time period even appreciate the work that their wives did for them and the entire family?

-Ashley Haynes

Chapter 3: The work they do

-It was very interesting how even the skilled immigrants faced the same reality in America as the unskilled immigrants when they looked for work. I had naturally assumed that those who were skilled despite any language barrier they may have had would easily find a job. Usually businesses knew that they didn’t have to pay much for the labor of immigrants. During the initial waves of immigration, immigrants were eager for any monetary opportunity they could get because they needed to provide for themselves and their family. However, the reading seemed to suggest that the inability to speak English unfortunately placed all immigrant workers on the same level. In the end, it is just so sad to fathom that there was no alternative but to toil long hours at backbreaking jobs.

-“It was extremely hard to find an Italian in New York who could write his own tongue with accuracy.”

When I read about the low levels of literacy amongst Italian immigrants in their native tongue, I was shocked. When you read immigrant accounts it is common to read that they couldn’t read and write in English. However, at the very least they should be literate in their own language. Thus, this raises the question in my mind as to why such was the case. Did Italian immigrants find it pointless to learn how to read and write in their native language with the understanding that they wouldn’t need to know how once in America?

-“Today’s immigrants, therefore, can be divided roughly into two camps: those who arrive with college degrees and specialized skills, on the one hand, and those with little education and training on the other.”

Reading about and knowing that two spectrums exist in terms of the backgrounds immigrants arrive with should lead people to at the very least understand that not all immigrants who arrive could be grouped into one category. As a result, I don’t understand why the overwhelming majority of immigrants are categorized as trying to get over by draining the public system of funds. I believe that everyone deserves their proper due and this includes recognizing that immigrants not only come for economic assistance but to also help enrich America by contributing to innovation.

Questions:

Why did immigrant workers who paid for needles get fined if they broke the needle? How can you be fined for something you paid for?

-Ashley Haynes

Granovetter – The Strength of Weak Ties

Granovetter’s study seeks to apply patterns of interaction on the macro level to micro-interactions.  I found Granovetter’s scientific and mathematical approach to the paper to be interesting and thought-provoking.  By quantifying the people as basic letters and defining their interpersonal networks as mathematical sets, I was interested in Granovetter’s approach to the argument.  I was, however, I was a bit alarmed at the terminology used in the article that seemed to dehumanize the supposed subjects, particularly in the discussion of central and marginal individuals.  The terms “central” and “marginal” are, in effect, euphemisms for judging a person’s popularity among his or her inner circle.  The so-called marginal individuals are those with a tendency to not be linked to as many of the other people with whom they interact, whereas the central individuals are those with significantly more sociometric bridges and consequently more weak ties.  It is interesting to note that these terms seem to be euphemisms for describing the extent to which a person is popular or well-connected to a group.

Further, I found Granovetter’s study of the ways in which people receive work-related information to be quite interesting.  According to his results, the majority of people obtain references to and recommendations about job openings from those with whom they interact occasionally (in this case, individuals whom they see less than twice a week, but more than once a year).  This point does seem intuitive, as being acquainted with someone one sees occasionally denotes that the two are close enough to keep up correspondence over a period of time; this closeness also suggests that the persons in question probably share personal information with each other when they meet.  When seeing someone after some time, one is more inclined to share long-term plans and non-trivial goals.  In the case of those that interact frequently, conversations are usually based on short term events (for example, plans for the coming week), because there is a guarantee that one will see the other person in the near future to discuss these short-term plans.

From Ellis Island to JFK Chapter 4: Immigrant Women and Work

In this chapter, Foner focuses on comparing the immigrant women of the past, the Jews and Italians, with the immigrant women in today’s society. I was surprised to learn that women who were married in the past were compelled to stay home to take care of the children and to fulfill domestic responsibilities. In fact, “in American cultural environment, female labor was seen as a necessary evil to be tolerated only if a family was in difficult economic circumstances”(118). I remember when visiting the Lower East Side Tenement Museum, the mothers of the households had no occupations listed next to their names on the census. The tour guide explained that even if these women held jobs, it wouldn’t be listed because the norm of the society at that time was for married women to be housewives.

However, as times have changed, more women are entering the workforce. Men are also now expected to help inside the home, a responsibility that no man in the past would ever fulfill.

I found it ridiculous that some men pressured their wives to stay home because of their ego and belief of male superiority. They shouldn’t prevent their wives from working because every additional help towards the family income counts. In addition, I found it sad that some women had to reduce their incomes in order to satisfy their husband’s ego. Husbands should swallow their pride and allow their wives to hold a job and women should feel like they can make more money than their husbands. After all, in a marriage, both the wife and the husband are considered equals.

Furthermore, everyone in the household was expected to work to contribute towards the family income. Children even obtained false working papers when they did not finish their required education. I have family who were recent immigrants where each member of the family worked in order to support the entire family. My aunt and uncle work each day of the week while my two cousins work while going to college.

-Anissa Daimally

 

From Ellis Island to JFK Chapter 3: The Work They Do

In this chapter, Foner compares and contrasts the immigrants of the past, Jews and Italians, with the immigrants in today’s society and their role in the workforce. In the past, many jobs required just “brawn and muscle.” Today, the New York economy has shifted to one where jobs require college degrees. There is a shift from “blue collar jobs to professionals, managers, secretaries and service workers” (88). This can be the reason why immigrants today now come prepared with college degrees and specialized skills.

I also found a similarity between the Chinese garment industry of today and the Jewish immigrant industry of the past. Like the Chinese, the Jewish “employers preferred applicants who are recommended by existing employees” (80). This is because employers want to find the easiest and cheapest way to gain employees. Furthermore, these referred workers are under the pressure to do well because they do not want to reflect bad on their sponsors. Thus, these employers can take advantage of their workers because they know that the referred employees will not complain.

I am saddened that those immigrants who had professional jobs in their country cannot get those same jobs in the United States due to the lack of English, the lack of U.S. job experience, and the lack of network ties that would connect them to the mainstream economy. However, there is an upside to their decline in occupational status: they make more than they ever would back in their home country.

In the chapter, Foner states that “Koreans own most of the fruit and vegetable markets, even those announcing that they specialize in West Indian products” (108). I’ve actually noticed this; when walking down on Liberty Avenue, I found that most of the food markets were actually owned by Asian Americans.

-Anissa Daimally

From Ellis Island to JFK – Chapter 5

In this chapter, Foner discusses inferior races. It’s interesting to see that Asian Americans tend to associate with “White” Americans rather than with the “minorities”, even though blacks and Latinos clearly outnumber the Asian population (162). The idea that “white skin” is beautiful is prevalent in Asian culture, and it might stem from the fact that the white skin of Caucasians is superior, as we discussed in class. I remember being scolded for getting too tan, thus making me more “black”, back during the summer by my mother. She would scold me occasionally and when my tan started to fade, she would always comment that I’m becoming more “white” and says that I look much better. When I visited China during the summer, almost everyone carried around an umbrella to shield themselves from the sun to avoid getting tan. It was kind of scary how everyone wanted to be pale-skinned. In Korea, there are various types of whitening creams that whitens skin. Plastic surgery is prevalent as well; numerous girls get plastic surgery to get double eye-lids and a sharper nose. These characteristics are common in “the descendants of a genetically pure and biologically superior “Nordic” race” (144). It really does seem like Asians are “almost white but not whites”, in terms of appearance.

Foner-“From Ellis Island to JFK” (Chapter 2,5) Response

Chapter 2:

This section predominantly deals with the living conditions experienced by immigrants throughout the 20th century and how they compare to more recent living conditions (still terrible conditions). It is fairly reflective of the other readings we have done on the tenements in the Lower East Side and the changes that occurred within these neighborhoods as the decades progressed and as legislation was passed. It addresses how neighborhoods change with different influxes of demographics and how immigration had actually helped certain neighborhoods survive episodes of white flight, essentially a review of discussed material with a focus on various demographic groups.

Chapter 5:

It appears that regardless of one’s country of origin, there was at least one time in US history when one’s ethnic group was deemed inferior to mainstream American society, especially in the case of immigrants. The plight of the Jewish and Italian immigrants mirrors the more modern struggles of African Americans, Hispanics, and West Indians as new groups enter neighborhoods and interact with the well-established members before them. How does the established social status quo affect ethnically African or other colored immigrants’ self-perceptions and communities? What affect do the changing labels of Asian immigrants have on their neighborhoods?

Berger: The World in a City

What I found most interesting about this article, was the how through Ditmas Park seems to be a multicultural utopia, nothing is perfect.  At the end of the article Berger discusses how there are ethical tensions within the community, and this has unfortunately leaded to violent and disheartening events.  For example a Haitian woman claimed to be pummeled after buying plantains and peppers, houses have been burglarized and women being mugged.  It is interesting to see that even the most multicultural areas in New York City have histories of not accepting some people and turning to violence.  In some stores people of the community handed out leaflets telling people to ‘avoid shopping “with people who do not look like us.”’  It seems like this ideal utopia can not even have everybody getting along.

After a majority of these events in the 1990s the neighborhood began to change things around, and today everyone feels much more accepted.  It is good to see how people from everywhere can all live with each other, in such a way that their backgrounds no longer pose as a threat to anyone.  The variety adds to the characteristics of the neighborhood, and now people are moving to Ditmas Park in order to raise their kids in a multicultural environment.  Though I did not grow up in a neighborhood quite like Ditmas Park, my high school had a variety of ethnicities represented.  Seeing such a variety of ethnicities everyday I learned to accept everyone, I don’t think twice when I see someone hwo looks different from me, because nobody looks alike.  We are all so unique that it seems impossible to discriminate against certain groups, and I believe that this neighborhood has succeed in this aspect.

Waters and Jimenez – “Assimilation” Response

  1. I was very much interested in the new trends of geographic placement of high immigrant populations. I never thought that immigrants would be moving to the Midwestern states because I for some had never considered that there would be job opportunities enough to support large influxes of immigrant populations. Looking at Table 1, the most surprising countries that immigrants are coming from (for me at least) are the United Kingdom and Germany. Now several effects of this immigrant migration to previously low-immigrant areas are mentioned in the article, but how would these affect the rate of assimilation of these immigrants?
  2. Would it be more reasonable to assume that still the best long-term pathway into assimilation is through established immigrant gateways (because of access to resources and whatnot) or would the inherently greater rates of interaction between native Americans and immigrants be more helpful?

Sewing Women Ch. 5-9

In chapters 5 through 9 we see that the Chinese and the Korean garment factories wanted to hire different people to work on the clothing.  I found it very interesting that most of the workers in the Korean factories were not mostly Korean besides the owners, their children, and their close relatives.  The Korean garment factory owners preferred to hire coethnics, but Korean garment workers were too expensive to hire so they turned to hiring undocumented Mexicans and Ecuadorians.  Many Korean women went into the manicure business so they could possibly become entrepreneurs or work in a position with higher status.  Still, there were some Koreans working in the factories; however, they mostly had very specialized jobs or talents in sewing detailed parts of clothing.  On the other hand, the Chinese garment factories had mostly coethnic workers.  The number of Chinese immigrants keeps increasing and many are given jobs in the factories.  It was interesting to see how the owners generally decided who would work for them.  Their own attitudes toward race and ethnicity were considered as well as what they heard from other owners about racial groups.  They also used their experiences with African Americans, Puerto Ricans, and their own workers.

Another difference described in these chapters is what went on inside the shop.  The Chinese garment factory workers would sponsor a new worker by training and accompanying her helping her to get into the routine of the job.  This recruitment helped the owners be ensured that this new worker will not cause trouble, and it also helps the worker who trains this recruit by increasing their status.  In the Korean garment factories the workers rarely brought in their friends and family to train; however, they may tell friends where they can get a job without actually introducing them to the owners themselves.  Also, because many workers in the Korean factories were undocumented it makes sense that they would not want to give their names or information.  One Mexican worker said that the owners only really need to know if the women can sew.

Sewing Women Ch. 1-4

Sewing Women gives readers insight into the garment factories of New York City.  One interesting aspect of these chapters was the display of the progression and inclusion of different immigrant groups working in these factories.  It was also interesting to see the differences between the Chinese garment factories and the Korean garment factories.  The Chinese factories had mainly Chinese immigrants who were legal, but Korean garment factories employed often illegal immigrants from South America.  Also, the Chinese factory workers were unionized, whereas the Korean factory workers were not.  I liked reading the field notes of the descriptions of the Chinese and Korean shop floors because they helped me to picture these two types of garment factories.  The Chinese shop floor was filled with rows of machines and was very cramped.  The building was old and seemed to be too small for all of the workers.  Still, the work was more personalized;  women would bring cushions for their chair and snacks to eat in their small work area.  The Korean factories were more modern with elevators and more space.  It was less crowded, but it was also much less personalized and previously distributed.

Another aspect of these chapters I thought was interesting was the information about transnational families because in a sense they are very common today too.  Transnational families have homes in America and another place and often work in America to pay for their life back home.  Only one or two family members, for example the father, would work in America, and the family would stay back home.  Many of these families did not intend to bring the rest of their families to America.  Today, I know people who are living with similar split family situations.  For example, my friend and her immediate family live in America, but her extended family lives in Israel.  Eventually, she and her family will probably go back to Israel.

NY/LA Response

In The Transformation of Chinese American Communities, Zhou, Chin, and Kim discuss the changing circumstances of Chinese immigrants and the places they live.  One aspect I found interesting was the difference in the expectations of past European and Chinese immigrants.  It was said that European immigrants were expected to assimilate into mainstream American society quickly, and they did.  The Chinese immigrants, on the other hand, were banned from immigration, naturalization, and assimilation by the laws of the time.  For example, the Chinese Exclusion Act did not permit Chinese immigrants to come to the United States.  At other times, there were quotas on the number of immigrants allowed, and the number of Chinese immigrants was small compared to immigrants from other countries.  When Chinese immigrants were allowed in, they lived in Chinatowns with their own workplaces where they did not have to compete with natives.  This is different from today as well.  Now, Chinese immigrants and other immigrants come from different socioeconomic backgrounds with different levels of education.  These people live in various places from small Chinatowns to larger ethnic enclaves and global ethnoburbs.

One interesting link made was between what the ethnic neighborhoods do for immigrants.  As time goes on, middle-class immigrants are continuing to enter the country; however, they are able to go to not only cities but suburbs as well.  Still, ethnic communities, like Chinatowns, provide immigrants with what they need when they get here.  These neighborhoods are able to create an ethnic community and economy with strong capital and resources.  Still, the people in these places are still connected to the outside world.  They have links to back home; however, they use them as a way to intertwine their lives and culture with life in America.

Klinenberg Response

In Denaturalizing disaster: A social autopsy of the 1995 Chicago heat wave, Klinenberg makes an interesting point that the numerous deaths that occurred during the heat wave were not mainly caused by the natural disaster that is the heat wave itself.  Simply, I would assume that the extreme heat was too much for many people to handle unfortunately causing many of them to die; however, Klinenberg attributes the deaths during the 1995 heat wave to the circumstances in the city of Chicago.  Evidence showed that, compared to the previous heat waves, so many more people died in 1995 meaning that the natural disaster was not entirely to blame.  Klinenberg blames social and spatial division prior to the heat wave for the deaths saying that the urban city was unprepared to handle the disaster.  There was neglect in the city, a new urban poverty, isolation of seniors in bad neighborhoods, rising violence, and more contributing to the condition of Chicago.

Klinenberg also mentions that the media portrayed the countless deaths on the natural disaster, thus naturalizing the situation.  Even now, people look to the media for information on what is going on in their cities and countries, and what is portrayed in the media is often taken as true even if it actually is not completely accurate.  Klinenberg also says that there is pressure when it comes to the media.  Journalists often ponder what they are going to present to the public because it has to be consumable and appealing, but they also want to keep their connections to sources such as public officials.  This means what they end up reporting is effected by what public officials will approve of.  This contributes to why it was so hard for the few politicians and activist groups who were trying to expose the societal problems to get their views to other people.

Foner Ch.1

In chapter one of From Ellis Island to JFK, Foner describes who the immigrants were and why and how they came.  I liked how Foner began the chapter with a quote from Emma Lazarus’s poem engraved on the Statue of Liberty which says, “Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free.”  I think this helps the reader relate right away to what she is talking about because the Statue of Liberty is such an important symbol of our patriotism.  She also cleverly uses this to link to her point that in more recent times, not only poor and oppressed people are coming to America.  Now, people from all over the world are coming to America for different reasons.  For example, many people today come to America with degrees already earned.  Todays immigrants come from so many cultural and economic backgrounds.  People are still coming from Europe, but they are also arriving from the Caribbean.  People who are poor are still coming but so are doctors, lawyers, and engineers.

It is also interesting to see the reasons why people are coming to America.  One point Foner makes is that immigrants today come because they can.  In the past there were different immigration laws in America and other countries only allowing a certain number of people of specific races into America or out of their native countries.  Now, most people find it easier to emigrate from their countries of origin.  Other people come here to find jobs.  They may be trying to escape the governmental or economic conditions found in their homeland.  For example, people with higher degrees may not be able to find a job in their country so they come to America to seek out a place to work and make a living.  In Russia, Jewish people faced oppression making the anti-Semitism their ultimate reason for emigrating.  Whatever the reason for immigration may be, people look to America as a place where they will be able to survive and prosper.

Moving On

It is interesting to see how prevalent the garment factories were in Chinatown before 9/11 although they were in a decline.  They had reputations for quick turn-around times, computer-operated tracking of inventory, and the ability to assemble workers and products in a timely manner.  Before 9/11, there were about 14,000 garment workers in 250 factories.  Garment factories were a huge supplier of jobs for immigrants especially those who did not speak English.  These ethnic enclaves were places where immigrants could find work, earn money, and not have to bother learning the language.  That is one of the reasons why 9/11 was so detrimental to these workers.  They were not trained in other jobs and they did not speak English, so when 75 factories shut down many people were out of work and struggled to afford basic things.

It is also interesting to read about how these Chinese garment workers were effected by 9/11 and to compare it to the experiences we had during that time.  Jobs were lost, less people came to Chinatown, immigrants did not have networks to find jobs, and they also faced the language barrier.  For different reasons, many other people were sent away from their jobs after 9/11.  For example, my aunt as well as so many others were forced to relocate to different job locations when their offices in the Twin Towers were destroyed.  Similarly, the people who were in Chinatown during that time, those who were in the World Trade Center that day, and all New Yorkers in general together had to cope with the devastating event and still do to this day.

Waters-Jimenez Assimilation

I was intrigued to learn that many immigrants are moving into the midwestern and southern states, areas that are not known to be immigrant gateway states. There are many reasons accounting for the dispersal of immigrants in these states. Waters and Jimenez focuses on the Mexican immigrants. Due to anti-immigrant sentiment, a deep recession, and the new law that legalized previous undocumented immigrants in California, Mexican immigrants fled California in search of other places to settle.

Immigrants are also drawn to new gateways by economic opportunities. Many of these new gateways have a high demand for low-wage labor. These industries prefer to hire immigrant workers over  all native-born workers. I found this similar to the situation of garment industries in New York City, where the Korean garment industries prefer to hire Hispanic immigrants and the Chinese garment industries prefer to hire Chinese immigrants. Furthermore, I found a similarity between the social networks in these gateways and in the garment industry in New York City. In the Poultry Plants, employers encourage Latino workers to recruit other workers by referring potential employees. Those who do bring in new workers receive cash bonuses, as long as the new workers remain in the industry for a period of time. This is similar to the Chinese workers who recruit new workers; they receive “easier or smaller-sized clothing to sew” as their reward, “enabling them to sew more pieces in a given day and earn more money (Chin 106).

I found the linguistic pattern ‘three generation model’ to be interesting: the first generation is said to remain dominant in the native tongue, the second generation to be bilingual, and the third generation to be only fluent in English. Does this model work for every immigrant group? If so, I am saddened by this because the language is important to culture. While assimilating into the American culture, one should not lose their own culture as well; they should maintain it.

I found immigrant replenishment to be very fascinating. It forces the second and third generation of immigrants to reconnect to their culture, such as speaking in their native tongue.

-Anissa Daimally

Foner Chapter 5: The Sting of Prejudice

In this chapter, Foner describes the discrimination and prejudice that the Jews and Italians faced in the past. The racism was scientifically based upon, with renown scientists at the time supporting the discrimination with bogus scientific facts. In reality, race does not even exist; it does not exist biologically but it does exist socially. Foner states that “Race, in other words, is a social and cultural construction, and what is important is how physical characteristics or traits are interpreted within particular social contexts and are used to define categories of people as inferior or superior.” I was intrigued by this statement because it is completely true; humans let ignorance perpetuate stereotypes associated with ‘racist labels.’

However, racism is a changeable perception in society. The Jews and Italians who were once discriminated are now considered to be ‘white.’ As students mentioned in class, the targets of racism and prejudice change over time and are a result of events that are occurring in the world. For example, Muslims are the targets of prejudice due to the terrorism attacks and the wars going on in the Middle East. My teacher, who is a Muslim, was the target of unfairness. Everyday when she went into the subway and there were ‘random searches,’ she was always chosen as the  target of the random search done by the police because she wore a hijab.

Because of the racism that exists, many people have the notion that white people are superior. As Munazza Alam mentioned in the post before me, people are trying to lighten their skin because of this belief. In fact, in Jamaica, there are singers who publicize and promote skin bleaching. For example, Vybz Kartel released a song titled “Cake Soap,” in which the lyrics state that it is ‘cool’ to bleach your skin.

It was interesting to learn that the Asian immigrants are “almost whites but not whites.” This is because they come to the country with college degrees and the financial ability to purchase middle-class homes. Thus, the can fit more into the white social world. However, does this apply to Asians who are not light skinned?

-Anissa Daimally

 

 

Foner – Chapter 5

Foner draws attention to the deeply rooted sentiments of racial prejudice that existed in America during the first wave of immigration.  Justification for such racism hinged upon the idea of scientific racism, which used biological principles to supposedly prove the superiority of the white race.  Works such as Madison Grant’s The Passing of the Great Race reiterate these ideas, and serve as testaments to the strength of these bigoted views.  Grant even expresses a fear that racial mixing would dilute the purity of the Nordic race.  Such attitudes, coupled with biological explanations, worked to institutionalize racism.  The distinction that race is imposed by people, despite the fact that it does not truly exist, is perhaps Foner’s most important point.  It is also important to note that racial hierarchy stems from a history of immigration laws in the US that fostered such sentiments.

I find it interesting that this line of thinking – one in which lighter skin color is preferred – is prevalent in other races, as well; for example, South and East Asian cultures market skin-whitening creams, and value individuals who are lighter in color for their fair complexion.

Conversely, the immigrants of today are those “of color” (142), as Foner describes.  It is, however, interesting to note that the black-white distinction exists even today, whereas Italians and Jews who were previously considered as ‘other’, rather than white, were able to gain acceptance into this racial classification.  Foner attributes this change to the amelioration in socioeconomic status of these immigrants.  As they settled and progressively elevated their financial status, these immigrants seem to become ‘whiter’.

 

Waters and Jimenez

– Why is it necessary to consider empirical data about immigrants away from the major cities? How would such insight allow research to better understand new immigration patterns?

I was interested to find that most new immigrants settle in suburban areas rather than large cities.  In the case of Mexican immigrants, this trend is due to flagrant anti-immigrant sentiments. It is interesting to note that the immigrants in these new gateway locales do not form long-term relationships with native-borns because they are often transient.  The large number of school aged children however draws upon the necessity to accommodate such students.  The uniqueness of settling is such areas, however, lies in the ability of immigrants to carve out their own position and define their own reputation, sans preconceived notions about their place in society from others. Settling in a smaller town with fewer resources means greater interaction between immigrants and native born residents.

I also found the discussion of immigrant replenishment to be quite thought-provoking.  I had not previously considered this concept, but the implications of the interaction between new immigrants and integrated coethnics is interesting to consider.  According to Waters and Jimenez, immigrant replenishment allows integrated second and third generation individuals to connect with coethnics, and renew their sense of ethnic identity.  These interactions also allow those that are settled access to ethnic raw materials.

Evidence of language assimilation in the third generation – that is, loss of the mother tongue – is one that I find quite shocking.  Although it does seem intuitive that the immigrant generation would be dominant in their native tongue, the second generation would be bilingual, and the third generation would be English speaking only, I find loss of the mother tongue to be a loss of an integral part of culture. Although language assimilation is important, maintaining one’s own language is also an integral part of remaining connected to one’s roots.

 

Nancy Foner – From Ellis Island to JFJ Chapter 2 Response

This chapter went very well with our class tour of the LES Tenement Museum. As I was reading Nancy Foner’s descriptions of the conditions that the immigrants had to face, I was immediately taken back to the cramped spaces and tight households of the tenements. Though words can manufacture very vivid descriptions, and Foner’s descriptions did provoke sharp imagery of the trying conditions that the early immigrants had to face upon their arrival to the United States, the tour of the Tenement Museum really helped me fully grasp the harsh extent of the difficulties, struggle, and inconveniences that welcomed unsuspecting immigrants. The tight spacing, the high ratio of people per square footage, and the dangerous conditions could not have been underestimated. Today, this issue of inconvenient housing and lifestyles can be circumvented much easier than during the time of the early wave of immigration. This is because more and more immigrants that come here bring with them established credentials and already-perceived statuses that help them find immediate, or at least inevitable stability. In addition to this, a lot of the immigrants are also coming here from the applications of family members that have already settled down with stable living conditions. I connected this with my own family, too. When my mom first came here with her brothers, they had to live in trying conditions similar to those described. There were too many people trying to make do in a small apartment, with only one bathroom. In contrast to this, when my uncles came here to America only a few years ago, they did not face any of these hardships. They stayed with us and were spared the burden of finding somewhere to stay, as they received a kind of help that my mother did not have, since she was one of the first in her family to come here.

On a separate note, it is always interesting to see how immigrants come to America and how they choose to settle down. Neighborhoods sort of just spring up and gradually, but naturally, start to be populated with one dominating culture. Of course, shifts occur constantly as people move in and out, yet there is always an easily perceived pattern in the changes that occur. Suffice to say, immigration and the cultural diversity it brings remains a topic of great wonder and intrigue.

– Nadera Rahman

Nancy Foner – From Ellis Island to JFK Chapter 1 Response

Chapter 1 of Nancy Foner’s From Ellis Island to JFK offered many valid points that I agreed with and was able to personally connect with. I found her discussion on the separate waves of immigration to be very elucidating, accurate, and necessary. While both waves of immigration came with people from foreign countries seeking a better life and more opportunities, the outcomes and expectations differed greatly between the two. Immigrants from the earlier wave came to America with very little specific expectations, but rather, a general hope to find a better life. They came here with very little, and thus, their ultimate goals were inevitably reached, some way or other. These immigrants were naturally more satisfied with their American experience and could probably boast of having achieved the American Dream.

In contrast to this, the second wave of immigration came with people from foreign countries with equally high hopes of having a better life, but with the difference being that many were already established and educated. They brought their talents, education, and skills here to America, and thus, they had specific goals and expectations to reach. I liked how Nancy Foner approached this idea and explained that while many of these immigrants are very well qualified, they find it hard to break through racial conflicts or long-held stereotypes. In consequence, they are left working at jobs that undermine their true skills and are left feeling like they did not achieve the American Dream. Ultimately, this is not their fault, but rather the impenetrable system that society has constructed. I connected with this well because my own father has suffered from the exact same situation that Foner described. My father was a doctor in Bangladesh and though he left behind his family and his friends, he brought with him his education, with hopes of becoming a doctor in America. He had no doubts at all and though he was afraid of how he would adjust to the new society, because of all the glamorized stories he’d heard of America, he was certain that one way or other, he would be able to achieve his goal. Now, 20 years later, after relentless studying, exams, and attempts, my father was unable to reach this goal, not because he was not qualified or educated enough, but because of the petty hindrances that came from a foreign country.

Despite this, though, my father states that although he was unable to achieve his goal, even though he had come here with such high hopes, he still believes that life in America has given him more opportunities and more stability than he could have hoped for back home. I think that this general conclusion is the same for most of the immigrants from this second wave of immigration, and this is the reason that people still want to come to America for that better life.

– Nadera Rahman

Putnam Response

I enjoyed reading “E Pluribus Unum: Diversity and Community in the Twenty-first Century,” and Putnam’s skeptical take on immigration and how cultural diversity can branch out and express itself in really different ways. Though it is nice to read about an extensively positive outlook on immigration and diversity, Putnam’s meticulous divisions, namely in the form of his scrutiny regarding “contact theory vs. conflict theory”, came to me as very realistic and sensible criticisms on how the influx of mass cultural variety in one area can be interpreted.

Contact theory is the more recent and progressive one of the two, and it suggests that diversity lowers ethnocentrism by promoting “out-group solidarity” (144). Conflict theory, in contact, suggests that diversity promotes “out-group distrust and in-group solidary” (142). Essentially, those who support contact theory believe that cultural diversity encourages people to mix well with those outside their culture and in consequence, results in a cooperative mix of different ethnicities. Those who support conflict theory believe that the more people are exposed to different backgrounds, the more they are drawn to their own.

Putnam elaborates on social networks and community and how important such environments are for new immigrants. Based on his studies and conclusions, he seems to conclude, from various statistics and data collection, that diversity promotes isolation and a distrust of neighbors.

I personally think that both theories are plausible and such phenomena and ultimate aftereffects depend almost entirely on the culture, as well as individual people within that culture. Even within my own family, I have relatives who’ve come here from Bangladesh that have been more than eager to mix with those of other cultures and learn the ways of life outside the Bengali culture. Likewise, I also have relatives who intractably adhere to their own traditions, with no interest to live a life outside of what they’ve always known.

I found Putnam’s comprehensive approach to this issue, by methodically describing both viewpoints, to be very effective in sending a message to the reader, as well as allowing the reader to formulate his or her own opinion. He presents varying standpoints without partially shoving any one perspective down our throats.

– Nadera Rahman

The World in a City: Melting Together in Ditmas Park

Before reading this chapter, I never knew that Ditmas Park existed. Even Berger says that “..many seasoned New Yorkers have never heard of it.” This area in Brooklyn defies the mosaic theory, which states that a diverse area is “an arrangement of different-colored ethnic tiles often coexisting amicably but separated by the sturdy grout of chauvinism and suspicion.” Instead, it seems to be a melting pot. No one ethnic or racial group is dominant, making this neighborhood work; Susan Miller said, “The reason why this works is there’s no majority one-there’s a majority of many” (23).

I enjoyed how Berger showed that there were friendships among the people of different ethnicities in the neighborhood, showing that the diversity is not “cosmetic.” For example, Mavis Theodore, a black Trinidadian, and Hynda Lessman Schneiweiss, a Chicago-born Jew, are very close friends. I too, have close friends that are from different backgrounds. My core friends are from different ethnicities, such as Filippino, African American, Bengali, Guyanese, Korean and Chinese.

The people in this neighborhood make an effort to be friends with people of other cultures. For example, residents hold dinners where the entire neighborhood is invited. Also, for holidays, neighbors are invited to one another’s houses, even if they are not from the same religion. I believe this is truly amazing for the residents in this neighborhoods to do this. They are trying to create a close-knit community.

These cross-cultural friendships in the neighborhood, however, are limited by socioeconomic class. Homeowners associate with homeowners and apartment dwellers with apartment dwellers. Furthermore, shared professional backgrounds contribute to this inclusivity. Why can’t friendships cross the class lines?

-Anissa Daimally

 

 

Berger Response

Berger’s article, “The World In a City”, on the diversity in Ditmas Park intrigued me greatly. I love diversity and there is nothing better than knowing that such a large population of diverse people lives together in one neighborhood. Although New York City is known to be one of the most diverse places in the world, I’d gotten so used to the idea of segmented neighborhoods, in which one culture or ethnic group dominates in certain bound areas, that reading about Ditmas Park came to me as a revelatory occasion worthy of some momentary fixation and lasting wonder. I liked how Berger described this phenomena as housing “the world in a city”. With people from all different cultures not just living together in one neighborhood, but also working together as one community, through events and social gatherings, that work to transform cultural restrictions into cultural amalgamation, the example of Ditmas Park really redefines and adds a new layer to the United States’ tradition of widespread immigration and the ‘melting pot’ philosophy. Moreover, I also liked how Berger qualified this by offering the counterargument that perhaps these people may simply be living together without actually interacting and actively animating the melting pot phenomena. Despite this skeptical take, I still believe that the diversity in Ditmas Park is something marvelous.

This article made me want to know more about the community. I googled Ditmas Park’s population and came up with a really interesting article that further shed light on the neighborhood’s unique characteristic (http://www.nysun.com/real-estate/in-a-diverse-city-ditmas-park-takes-the-cake/14510/). Daniela Gerson begins this article with the following scenario:

“ After school and before prayer class, 12-year-old Raniey Arief waited impatiently next to a bodega on Cortelyou Road as a Moroccan schoolmate ran in. Inside, two cashiers, one Cuban and the other Tibetan, waved as her friend scampered to grab a raspberry juice.

This type of cultural mishmash is the norm for Raniey, who wore a traditional Pakistani scarf and skirt with a leopard skin print. Her friends hail from such far-off places as Haiti, Russia, Italy, Mexico, and Poland.”

Moreover, she states that according to the most updated U.S. Census data of the time, the Cortelyou Road section of Ditmas Park was the most diverse area not just in New York City, but the entire nation. This sort of diversity is not just a marvelous phenomenon, it is an innately beautiful work of art unto itself, with each culture being an individual and distinctive brush stroke full of spark, vigor, and hope.

– Nadera Rahman

Zhou, Chin, Kim Response

I really enjoyed reading this article because it shed light on a very positive side of immigration. It has become ingrained in our heads that people immigrate to new countries for better opportunities, mostly driven by a desire for monetary success. Often times, in conversations, it would not be surprising to hear something along the lines of “Well, their country is successful already, I don’t see why he would want to come here, anyway”. I never questioned it, and just accepted such generalized conclusions because they seemed plausible enough. This article greatly broadened the scope of immigration and why people really immigrate to new countries. I found it interesting how there are many different reasons that go beyond the limitations of seeking monetary success. These reasons include finding not just monetary success, but financial stability for themselves, being able to develop a stable establishment here, from which they can use their benefits and profits to further help those back home. This article also touches upon how many immigrants come here in hopes of finding some sort of stability in either insurance or for their children, and it is not something they seek for temporary gain. Their investments in real estate show that they are here to stay, which is just a more positive feature in immigration.

I liked how this article seemed to emphasize a policy of give-and-take between the city and the immigrants. They come here with already developed skills and talents, and put these abilities to practical use not only to help themselves, but to also contribute to the city, as well. This reminded me of an oath that we had to recite upon entering my high school alma mater. The Ephebic Oath essentially stated that a person would wield his talents and put them to practical use, for the purpose of serving their community and leaving their country greater and better than they found it. These words greatly resounded with me as I was reading this article on how these well established and highly skilled Asian immigrants come to America to benefit both themselves and their country in many different ways, including financially, as their work benefits the economy, as well as promoting diversity, as they are coming from all different parts of Asia, as well, and distributing this immense diversity throughout many different parts and neighborhoods of the cities.

– Nadera Rahman

Chin – Moving On Response

In her article, “Moving On”, Professor Chin talks about the effects that the 9/11 attack on the World Trade Center had on the garment industry and more specifically, the garment workers. I did not find it surprising that the garment industry had already been in steady decline prior to the incident. With a technology-obsessed society such as ours, I was not taken aback by the information that dot-com industries were uprooting the establishments of the garment industry for a long time coming. Even so, the sharp decline that came with 9/11 did come to me as a surprise. As the media has unremittingly portrayed the incident and its effects mostly in accordance to politics and religion, it did not even occur to me to think of specific effects that the event could have had on any one industry, let alone the garment industry in Chinatown.

Reading about these effects came to me as very eye opening. I thought the two views about the workers’ knowledge of English and its respective cause and effects was interesting to read about. The traditional ethnic enclave model claims that the Chinese did not need to learn English because they had settled at a job, at which “they can achieve mobility” without knowing the language. Opposed to this was the Kwong’s model, which claims that the workers are actually trapped in low-paying jobs without opportunities to learn English (Chin 191). Kwong felt that the traditional enclave model undermined the immigrants’ ability to learn English, which is an important asset in finding jobs outside of their comfort zone (191). I personally think that one model is not innately superior to the other in any way and that both are pragmatic reasons that can even go hand in hand with each other. Kwong’s model makes it seem as though it were not the immigrants’ choice to stay in the enclave without learning English but I’m sure that there were many immigrants who chose to stay in the enclave for those specific advantages, such as not having to learn English. As mentioned in the article, this then proved to be one of the bigger hurdles after 9/11, as it hindered the workers’ progress in finding new jobs elsewhere. Kwong’s model, however, is just as viable, as low-paying jobs do limit workers’ opportunities in many ways, and not being able to afford learning a second language is one of them.

Taking into consideration that both these models are equally adequate explanations for the circumstances that ensued, as well as Victor Nee and Jimy Sanders’ views on the mobility trap having favored entrepreneurs over the workers, I’ve come to the following conclusion. The garment industry engulfed its workers into a systematic cycle, from which it became difficult to escape. The workers chose to stay in the industry out of comfort and ease, but soon became limited in their opportunities to escape due to the low wage; nonetheless, because of the comfort and ease, they did not think it was a necessary or grave concern to do so. Consequently, the use of the term ‘mobility trap’ gets a whole new layer of meaning. This interpretation offers another layer of reasoning as to why it was so hard for the workers to find jobs out of the industry they’d always known. The difficulties resulted not only because the workers had grown so accustomed to the industry, but also because the industry had consumed them into its seemingly inescapable hold; once the workers were forced out of it, this loss of momentum, for lack of a better phrase, caused unforeseen predicaments.

– Nadera Rahman

Sewing Women Chapters 5-9 Response

These next four chapters of “Sewing Women” shed more light on the ways the Korean and Chinese factories were run and the methodology behind their respective systems. The Chinese factories’ emphasis on cultivating an environment populated with other Chinese workers resonated well with me because in my culture, this is a very common tendency, as well. My Bengali culture appreciates, embraces, and yearns for community the same way these Chinese workers did. Often times, when one is placed in a new environment, it is natural to wish to surround oneself with people who are alike in many ways. The Chinese factories thus fostered an environment that closely resembled home, in which they were able to nurture a similar sense of community, almost like a microcosm of their homeland in China. Like the Chinese, the Bengali culture also places immense significance on culture and maintaining one’s roots. For this reason, the culture often advocates immersion into communities and activities that help build even stronger ties with other people from the same culture.

While, initially, this homologous immersion is a good thing in that it eases transition and allows for a comfortable environment, I think that this is a strategy that should not be extensively clung to so dependently. At some point, it is important to interact with people of other cultures, especially in a place as diverse as New York City, in which such interactions are impending and inevitable. If people constantly stick to others that are really similar to them, they will have a hard time adjusting to the new lifestyle outside of their culture. I think this really defeats the purpose of seeking a new life in a new country, too. While maintaining your culture is important, it is just as important to embrace the new, as well as the old.

The way that the Korean factories were run came to me as very dehumanizing. Their racist strategies in hiring workers was very disreputable, but at the same time, I was not surprised, as such strategies have long been implemented in society. The desensitizing tactics of hiring workers based on superficial assumptions made according to certain races, skin colors, and ethnicities were pathetic to read about. I was also surprised by the sheer differences that came in expectations based on the various Hispanic ethnicities; for example, the expectations of a Mexican worker differed greatly from the expectations of an Ecuadorian worker. Yet still, these tactics persisted and seemed to be successful for the factories. Although today, such brash generalizations and curricula for hiring workers are not existent here, these racist tendencies do exist, simply in a subtler form.

As noted in my previous entry, both systems had their benefits and disadvantages. While the Chinese workers had a welcoming environment at which they could feel at home, they also had lower wages and were confined to their own community, excluded from the diversity around them. In contrast, the workers that worked for the Koreans had harsher working conditions, harsher hiring procedures to pass through, yet had better wages. This gave-and-take dogma of the working world has become inherent in our society.

Social Explorer Response

When I was at this talk, I was amazed by what was yet another example of how advanced technology is being put to practical use. This website is very useful in not only finding demographics and data information on multitudinous statistics of New York City’s population based on race, neighborhood and income, among many other criteria. What amazed me was how such large heaps of information have been gathered, collected, and meticulously organized into one website for any layperson to peruse through to their heart’s content. The information is available for both the average person as well as a professional and it can be used in a variety of ways. I found this plasticity to be quite alluring and immediately realized its potential for our own project, as we will be performing this sort of research for our documentary of our respective neighborhoods. Like some of my classmates noted, I also didn’t like the color schemes, but at the same time, I realize that with so many divisions and different categories, it is hard to differentiate, because there are only so many colors in our visible spectrum, anyway. If there were one thing I’d change about this site, however, it would be to maybe differentiate the colors more, or find different, more visually perceptible ways of presenting the data. For now, however, the color schemes work wonderfully because they do a good job at getting the message across, in terms of showing large trends of change over large spans of area and time.

– Nadera Rahman

Sewing Women – Chapters 1-4 Response

Reading these first four chapters of “Sewing Women” evoked emotions inside of me, just as strong as the connections I immediately made with the stories that were presented.

I, like my classmates, found it very interesting to read about how the way that the Chinese factories were run differed from the way that the Korean factories were run. I was able to sympathize with both their respective choices in who to hire as workers. On the one hand, as in the Chinese-run factories, working in an environment populated entirely by your own race or culture is very comfortable and eases the stress of work life. Everyone knows the same language, can share the same stories, and have similar lifestyles, which all make it easy for each other to not only communicate verbally, but also to communicate in the general sense of understanding each other and each other’s difficulties.

On the other hand, the Korean factories’ decisions to hire Hispanic workers to do the work, rather than people of their own race, also came to me as very sensible and reasonable. This fosters an interaction between people of different cultures, which is always a useful tool, especially in a country in which interactions among ethnic groups is inevitable and unavoidable. In addition, understanding the plights of others also paves way for understanding their culture and recognizing that in the end, they are not all that different from one’s own culture. Likewise, though, the racial difference also makes for a more professional environment, in which personal and individual problems do not interfere with work. The less comfortable you feel in an environment, the more likely that rules will be better enforced. For some reason, I feel that this may be an underlying explanation as to why the Hispanic workers had a higher wage than the Chinese workers.

What I found most interesting, however, was that these traditions seem to still continue even today. Though my own experiences may not be enough to make the following generalizations, I think that the observations unto themselves are enough to prove a point. More often than not, when I go into stores that are run by Chinese owners, the workers are also Chinese. In contrast to this, my cousin currently works part time at a beauty shop, at which all the managers are Korean; however, they do not hire any Korean workers. Moreover, one woman who works with my cousin is in America alone, working to support her family back in her native country, just as the Hispanic workers did. I found these parallels to be very striking and hard to overlook. This goes to show that history does, in fact, repeat itself, just in different forms and shapes.

Overall, however, the workers in both the Chinese factories and Korean factories each came with their own package of hurdles and struggles that they had to face and overcome. The varying work environment did not take away from that experience.

– Nadera Rahman

Denaturalizing Distaster: Klinenberg Response

In his article, “Denaturalizing disaster: A social autopsy of the 1995 Chicago heat wave”, Eric Klinenberg addresses various factors that he feels are significant in considering the damage and destruction caused by the Chicago heat wave of 1995. He takes a very different approach in evaluating the damage by taking a natural disaster and owing its drastic effects not to just nature, but to also the socioeconomic circumstances that he believes further escalated the catastrophe. He elaborates on this by stating that some features of “new urban poverty” that have contributed to the damage included “the literal social isolation of poor seniors…in the city’s most violent areas”, “the degradation and rising conflict in urban hotel residences”, and “the changes in public service delivery and the threats to the public health” (Klinemberg 240). Essentially, Klinenberg argues that the reason the Chicago heat wave affected so many people and the reason that it affected the KINDS of people that it did, namely low-income African Americans among others, is owed due to socioeconomic reasons, including the location of the communities and the availability of resources to those communities that could have been of substantial aid during the time.

While Klinenberg’s argument greatly qualifies and even undermines the natural disaster’s responsibility on the damage, he proposes a very important and culturally viable point that we must consider. Even if a natural disaster were to hit, it is no wonder why low-income, underdeveloped, and poorly supported areas and communities suffer more than those that are in wealthy, developed, heavily supported areas. Selected media coverage of certain areas and communities over others does not help the situation. It has become a social truth that this is how our world works, but this does not make it any less severe or worthy of disregard. This is a serious issue that must be faced and dealt with, because the longer that such issues are kept under a cloak, the worse the problem gets.

– Nadera Rahman

Nancy Foner Article – How Exceptional is New York?

In her article, “How Exceptional is New York?”, Nancy Foner discusses diversity in New York City, as well as its respective positive and negative features. As the two most prominent cultural hubs in the nation, Foner focuses particularly on immigration in New York City and Los Angeles, with substantial more emphasis on the former. She states that immigration promotes diversity and cooperation within different races. According to her, “New York’s remarkable ethnic and racial diversity, its immigration history, and its institutions have combined to make it a receiving city, in many ways, like no other in the United States” (Foner 1000). She emphasizes the diversity of New York City in countless ways, by highlighting its extensive ethnic diversity due to the immigrant population, as well as the many features that come with varying cultural diversity. Among such include, “the heterogeneity of skills” (1002), as well as how “officials and social service agencies actively promote events to foster ethnic pride and glorify the city’s multi-ethnic character and multi-ethnic history” (1004).

Despite the many wonderful attributes that racial diversity brings to further enrich New York City, there are still unavoidable tensions and downsides. The multitude of ethnicities and races make way for stereotypes as well as racial constructions, as “perceptions of race and ethnicity in New York [are] shaped by national trends and developments” (1004). In addition to this, there is an issue of self-identity as one may begin to question what race one really belongs to, as well as persisting tensions among various races.

Essentially, Foner explains that while cultural diversity in New York City is something that is remarkable and an inherent feature of the city, it also brings a plethora of issues that can’t be ignored or circumvented. Despite this, diversity is still something beautiful. Although the city heralds more diversity and thus more open views on various cultures than many areas in the country, we can hope that one day, the vision of the city will spread throughout the entire nation.

– Nadera Rahman

Berger Response

In The World in a City Berger talks about the diverse neighborhood that is Ditmas Park in Brooklyn.  What I found very interesting about this excerpt is that the people of this area are described as close friends and distant neighbors.  Berger begins by saying that Americans, especially in New York, are mixing and are more willing to get along with each other.  He describes Ditmas Park as an area where no one ethnic or racial group is dominant, and he says the people in this neighborhood are interwoven.  People move to this neighborhood expecting diversity.  You can walk down the street and see people of various different cultures.  I like how many of the people described in this excerpt say that their closes friend is someone of a different background.  This embraces the diversity that is ever so present in New York, and it shows that despite differences people can learn to communicate and work together whether it be at a community event in Ditmas Park or a large scale UN meeting in Manhattan.

The other aspect of Berger’s piece is that despite this rich diversity and seeming cooperation and friendship there is still a risk of separation and distrust.  Berger describes a split between people of different economic standing which often translates into racial separation.  People who rent apartments are less likely to be friends with homeowners.  He also included a statement from Pitzele, a history teacher, saying that the people are cohabiting not melting and that they are more friendly with people of their own ethnicity and social class.  Still, people in Ditmas Park seem to be putting in the effort with community plays, food events, and more making it seem, overall, like a friendly melting pot.

The World in a City

Berger’s mosaic theory of ethnic integration is an interesting image that aptly describes the Ditmas Park neighborhood.  This image denotes an amalgamation of cultures and ethnic traditions that meld together into one larger whole, while still retaining their own unique and distinctive elements.  Berger describes the Ditmas Park area as one representative of “radical mingling” (19); this phrase sheds light upon the striking nature of the way in which the diverse residents of Ditmas Park live and interact with each other.  Berger reiterates the fact that maintaining cross-cultural relationships in this area has become run-of-the-mill.  The diversity of Ditmas Park residents in interwoven; the residents are not divided by living in their own ethnic enclaves.  In this area, no one group is dominant, a fact that I found particularly interesting.  Susan Miller’s description of the neighborhood as a “majority of many” (23) aptly sums up the essence of the diversity present in Ditmas Park.  Berger attributes this lack of dominance to the geographic placement of this locale.  It seems that, because of the ethnic enclaves in the surrounding areas, namely, Coney Island, Sunset Park, Midwood, and East Flatbush, Ditmas Park has become a mixing place of sorts in which residents from these ethnic enclaves spill over and cross paths.

I also found Berger’s description of Westminster Road to be quite interesting, as I have spent quite some time in this area with family friends.  Westminster Road, with its English name, serene suburban feel, and diverse residents, draws an interesting parallel to the Ditmas Park area as a whole.

Why don’t the cross-cultural friendships in the Ditmas Park area extend over class lines?  I found it interesting that seemingly incompatible people in the area were able to sustain friendships with each other, but class lines tend to separate the same people.  What factors contribute to a tolerance of culture, but not class?

Joe Salvo Response

My level of interest in Joe Salvo’s talk stemmed mostly from the mere meticulous nature of his work, in general. I found it very alluring how one can take simple statistics of immigrants inhabiting a city and make it into a broad area of research, study, and analysis. Prior to his talk, I had not even considered such numbers, graphs, or charts to be as substantial or influential as Salvo ultimately made them out to be. I was, however, soon convinced that this area of study could be far more consequential than I would have ever considered. I realized that it is important to notice such trends of immigrants who inhabit certain boroughs of New York City and those who move out and move in every year, and in consequence, the reasons behind such migration. Even so, however, I’ve remained skeptical about this area of study, mostly because of how subjective it still seems to me. Although numbers and statistics are viable contenders of SHOWING to us the movement of people within different parts of the city, they do not do much in telling us the reasons behind such. This creates a pretty big loophole in the study because I think these reasons can greatly vary family to family or individual to individual.

Salvo’s talk also made my view on New York City’s diversity waver for a bit. All this time, I had always thought of New York City as being immensely diverse and supreme in its unique diversity. In spite of this, I didn’t really stop and think about how many communities are largely populated by a single culture or ethnicity, which can, in a sense, counteract the diversity that exists. Upon reevaluation, though, I realized that while people may have their own reasons for preferring to live in communities dominated by their own culture, this should not diminish the vast diversity that surrounds them. Although one may choose to live in a community with people of their own culture, this does not isolate them from those of other cultures completely or even at all. The opportunities to mingle with people from different ethnicities are limitless and the points at which one must interact with people outside their own culture are inevitable.

Two questions I had from the Talk:
1) How can you objectively evaluate reasons behind migration from point A to point B within the city?
2) What overall benefit or practical use can the study of these statistics bring to us in the future?

– Nadera Rahman

Foner Ch. 2

In chapter two of From Ellis Island to JFK, Foner describes where immigrants live.  She described where different groups lived initially and where they moved to.  The earlier immigrants lived in the Lower East Side of Manhattan; however, they started moving from Manhattan to other areas.  Newer immigrants coming in could often support a suburban home life.

Something I found interesting about this chapter is Foner’s description of the old ethnic neighborhoods.  Now, immigrants tend to live less in these types of neighborhoods; however, many of these neighborhoods still exist.  She describes old Little Italy with people speaking Italian, signs in stores advertising in Italian, and newspapers in Italian.  Most people would speak Italian, priests would be Italian, and banks would be Italian.  People living here would hold celebrations for their favorite saints where they would eat typical Italian foods.  Ultimately, they felt more at home because they were surrounded by people with their background.  I found this interesting because as I read it I could picture Little Italy in Manhattan.  It is very similar to this description although it may incorporate some diversity and the English language.  Foner describes other past neighborhoods like this as well including Jewish Brownsville and Chinatown.

I also found the descriptions of more contemporary housing interesting.  More immigrants are able to afford better housing because they came over with some education or were able to get loans.  In the 1980s Foner visited immigrants’ homes that had modern furnishings and appliances and were kept up.  Still, she describes even in that time there were more cramped living styles where someone would rent out rooms or beds in their apartment to help incoming immigrants.  Fortunately, better housing options are available today and neighbors are often helpful, but people still struggle.

Response to “From Ellis Island to JFK”, II

I was amazed by the fact that by 1910, more people lived in Manhattan than in thirty-three states. This also made me wonder how come production did not move to other states where more land was available. This would have brought some immigrants out of New York to other states as well and maybe resulted in better living conditions for them since so much more land would have been available. It is understandable that if the factories that supply more jobs stay in New York, no one will go anywhere, but it is still surprising that no visible effort was made by other states to really expand their factory businesses.
Also, I wonder what is a “shtetl” that was mentioned.

“A place that measured our success by our skill in getting away from it” is a really descriptive quote. Though it still raises a question for me, since the neighborhood this is talking about, Brownsville, is described like a Jewish area that is a lot like an exclusively Jewish town, why would someone who lives there want to go away from it? I felt like maybe the close ethnic communities where people understand each other’s customs would be more appealing in terms of network and social interaction. It sounds like, especially for a recent immigrant, being around people like themselves would make their lives easier. They also wouldn’t have to worry about things like discrimination based on their culture or recent immigrant status.

Foner-“From Ellis Island to JFK” (Chapter 1) Response

1. Were the tenements and crowded communities of NYC and other US cities that much better/ more desirable than the living conditions in 19th century Eastern Europe? Considering the crowded state of the Pale of Settlement and the conditions fostered by the May Laws being hardly better than the slums created by influx of immigrants into the tenements of the Lower East Side. The only reason I can think of is the lack of pogroms, but that is only marginally better in the best of situations.

2. Are policies/governments favorable to immigration to the US the  most important reason for immigration after the 1970s? That networks of immigrants grow because people send back for their family members and friends is blatantly obvious; however, do “modern” immigrants come to the US more because of the existing community or “because they can” (23)?

From Ellis Island to JFK (2)

After visiting the Tenement Museum, I was initially able to picture in my head exactly what the tenements Foner described looked like.  These were much different than what the television crews and media portrayed them as, until Jacob Riss and his book How the Other Half Lives.  It was surprising to me to hear that todays living conditions, for the poor immigrants from third world countries are being compared to those of this time.  Thinking back on it though, the tenements were closed during the 1930s because of government regulation of the living conditions, and because most of the tenements did not abide by these laws they were forced to close.  The government believed that a safer alternative to these unsafe tenements were other communities, known as the projects.  The projects today are known are to be less safe neighborhoods where more lower income families live today.  It is unfortunate that immigrants are still forced to live in unsafe apartments where they face more and larger burdens than those that live elsewhere throughout the city.

As opposed to the immigrants of the 1900s immigrants of today are able to move the the United States with a job set up and able to support and middle to low middle class family.  During the 10–s an immigrant had to move to the areas throughout the city with the most job opportunities so one would be able to work to make ends meet somehow.  During this time the amount of Italian and Jewish immigrants moving in to the city was very high, and although they were never topographically living in close quarters, they experienced the same things.  The Italian and Jewish immigrants lived mainly around 14th street, and in those unsafe  tenements.  Immigrants also set up ‘ghettos’ which still exist today.  Today however they are less homogenous as young and single adults are moving into areas such as Chinatown.

Ellis Island to JFK (1)

This chapter brought to my attention some interesting facts that I had not known before.  I like how Foner focused deeply on the differences between the immigrants of the early and mid 1900s and todays immigrants.  By comparing the two I was able to fully recognize their differences and understand their journeys and reasons for coming to the United States of America.  The differences in the type of immigrant from the earlier times to those of the later, and modern times were surprising.  I knew that the immigrants from the 1900s came from different areas than those that are primarily coming today.  Recently a wide variety of culture groups have been arriving in the United States and especially New York, this includes Asians, particularly Chinese; Filipino, West Indians, Hispanics, Russians and many more.  During the 1900s more Europeans had come into the United States through Ellis Island, with much less requirements than are around for those immigrating to the United States today.  Today there are much more, and a greater variety of requirements for those looking to move into this country.  It is a long process and throughout this chapter it became evident that illegal immigrants today, generally, had higher job positions than legal documented immigrants.  Learning this surprised me, because I assumed that the legal immigrants would be those who held high positions in their native country and have the money to move to the United States.

Another interesting fact was chain immigration and the idea of people following lead.  From other readings, I have learned that immigrants would write to their families and tell them of all the amazing this of the New World.  It came as a new realization that those postcards would be seen by people who were not members of the family and perhaps people working in delivering the mail.  This effect of chain immigration is a reason for many of the happenings during the 1900s and even today regarding immigration.

Foner / Chapter 2

Having visited the Tenement Museum only a week ago, Foner’s descriptions of late 19th and early 20th century living conditions were vivid in my mind.  The lack of basic necessities  including plumbing, ventilation, heating, and bathrooms made immigrant life in the Lower East Side almost unimaginable by today’s standards.  Even for the contemporary immigrant,  what immigrants faced only a century ago, does not even remotely compare to the quality of life expected when arriving in America.

For me, the most interesting aspects of this chapter, and from our tour, are the following:

1.  The difference between the living standards in the 1890’s and the 1920’s were vast.  Partly thanks the new legislation introduced in 1901 that required certain basic housing standards, the tenement experience varied greatly over a time period of only thirty years.  During our tour, the benefits of living in the 1930’s were evident.  We visited two tenements, and even though the family that lived in the 1890’s apartment was more wealthy than the family who lived in the 1920’s tenement, the 1920’s tenement was almost luxurious in comparison.

2.  In our readings we have mostly focused in NYC as a whole in terms of demographic trends.  Although we sometimes delve into specific neighborhoods, the amount of detail Foner provided regarding diversity within only the Lower East Side helped to show just how many “types” of stories there were even in one neighborhood.  Not everyone in the Lower East Side was of the same ethnicity, and even those who were each had individual paths to America, and different outcomes while living here.  Some stuck to religious and cultural traditions, while others assimilated.  Some became wealthier and moved into higher classes, but many were only able to offer social mobility to their children, while still others could not even do that much.

-Victor Rerick

Foner – Chapter 2

I found it interesting that Foner expounds upon the myths and realities regarding where American immigrants live.  Oftentimes, immigrant stereotypes stem from misconceptions about their living conditions.  Foner’s incorporation of Jacob Riis’ How the Other Half Lives further reiterates the stereotype that immigrants live in squalor and filth.  After visiting the LES Tenement Museum, I now have a better understanding of the living standards that Foner is referencing.  The immigrants of today, however, live in middle class areas; Foner attributes this difference to the fact that they arrive with more skills, and can therefore take on jobs that support such standards.  It thus becomes clear that the new wave of immigrants is more diverse in terms of class, as well as ethnicity.

A new trend among today’s immigrants is to move right in into the suburbs rather than the city first; Foner takes note that today’s immigrants are “not on the fringes” (55) of the affluent neighborhoods into which they are moving.  Further, the creation of polyethnic neighborhoods has largely prevented the formation of neighborhoods that are predominantly inhabited by one particular ethnic group.  “Little India” in Jackson Heights, as Foner details, is simply an amalgamation of businesses rather than residents.

I also found it interesting that commuting in New York was difficult, slow, and long, prior to the opening of the subways.  Today, I take it for granted that the trains are efficient – most of the time!

– Immigrants now live in more residentially dispersed areas, necessarily with coethincs; this stands in stark contrast to the “residential segregation” (40) present in 1920.  How do the residents of such neighborhood get along with their new neighbors?

 

The World in a City

According to Joseph Berger’s “The World in a City”, Ditmas Park, Brooklyn is the epitome of ethnic diversity and tolerance in a community. People are neighbors to people from all stretches of the globe and are all able to coexist peacefully. Ditmas Park, therefore, is an example of the social contact theory mentioned by Putman, in which people come together and through contact with other people’s differences learn to tolerate it. However, Ditmas Park also demonstrates characteristics of the social conflict theory. As mentioned in the article, people in the community tend to associate along social lines. The lawyers associated with other lawyers, and homeowners associated with other homeowners. This shows how although Ditmas Park may appear to be more tolerant of diversity than other communities, it is not perfect. The consequences of differences between different groups of people are still present.

What is also interesting is how the creation of the diversity in Ditmus Park is believed to be the result of the spilling over of residents from the monoethnic enclaves that surround it. If this is true then won’t one community spill more residents into Ditmas Park and eventually that group will become the dominant group, removing the diversity of the community? If so, the state Ditmas Park is in now is only a transition state. I believe this is inevitable because it is a natural tendency to find others that share common qualities. As a result, the residents of this community, no matter how peacefully they coexist, will want to be with others that celebrate similar cultures and ultimately smaller ethnic sections will be formed as more new residents move in.

-Wendy Li

Foner Chapter 2: Where They Live

-“Often forgotten in a haze of nostalgia are the grim realities of grinding poverty and tenement life.”

To think that a television special depicted a lady playing Mrs. Santa landing in the Lower East Side at the turn of the century and renting “a well- furnished, clean and rather spacious apartment,” was a blatant insult to those who actually lived in tenements at this time. To try and make it seem as though tenement life was ideal is to essentially ignore what the immigrants at the turn of the century had to endure. Yes the conditions aren’t something appeasing to describe but they need to be acknowledged. If it wasn’t for what the early immigrants endured in tenement apartments, who is to say that the state of lower/middle class apartments would have improved to what they are today. Multiple windows for ventilation, inside toilets and showers weren’t always a given in places of residence.

-In the summer, “except when it rained, my youngest sister and I slept on the fire escape.”

After visiting the tenement museum I couldn’t grasp how such large families could all find a place to sleep. When only half of the class was standing in a tenement apartment, it was very crowded. However, after reading that some resorted to sleeping on the fire escape, this reality only made tenement life worst. How could sleeping on a fire escape possibly be safe or good for one’s health? Then in cases where a tenement didn’t have a fire escape, did people just sit up in a chair in order to go to sleep if there wasn’t any room to lie down?

-“The massive number of immigrants arriving in recent years has helped many deteriorating neighborhoods make a comeback.”

Nowadays, people seem to forget the true nature of vitality that immigrants bring to the US, when they come. However, the fact that Foner highlighted upon the neighborhoods immigrants have migrated to and thereby turned into a thriving community once again, spoke volumes. Immigrants are just as valuable to America as native-born citizens are.  Immigrants not only integrate their culture and cuisine but also help to uplift the economic state of once desolate neighborhoods that natives have deserted.

From Ellis Island to JFK (Chapter 2)

In this chapter, Foner continues to discuss the differences between the old immigrant and the new immigrant. Putting the old immigrant and the new immigrant side by side is interesting because it makes it easier to see the similarities and differences between their experiences in America. The chapter was also very interesting because it mentioned many of the things we studied about in class. It mentioned the Lower East Side Tenement Museum as well as information Joe Salvo discussed in his talk. I was also able to relate the information Foner gave about the ethnic neighborhoods and tenements to sights we saw at the museum. For example, Foner mentioned how the segregation of ethnic neighborhoods during the past wave of immigrants was very prevalent. During the tour, it was also mentioned that as a result of this segregation, people were often less safe if they trekked into another neighborhood. In addition to this, I was able to see the condition of the tenements myself; so while reading, those images supplemented the text and gave me a greater understanding of how the immigrants lived when they first arrived. What was shocking however was that some of today’s immigrants live in even worse conditions.

What was also interesting about this chapter was that the changes in immigrant groups and the constant inward and outward migration of people from certain neighborhoods are still relevant today. This movement of people keeps the housing market thriving and helps to fill in vacancies created by whites who leave or die out from a neighborhood. These changes are visible. One neighborhood on Staten Island, near the middle of the island, has a high number of Koreans and Asians. People still move there because they know there is a bigger Asian community there.

-Wendy Li

From Ellis Island to JFK Chapter 2

-I thought it was interesting how many New Yorkers have the idea that new immigrants live in poor ethnic neighborhoods and slum conditions. This belief is partially true. For example, there are reports of Mexican immigrants inhabiting tunnel-like spaces behind buildings in Washington Heights and Koreans renting bedspace by time. However, while some immigrants continue to live in “squalid housing,” many immigrants skip this step and move into lower-middle class neighborhoods. This is because they have entered the United States with the skills and resources that would support this type of lifestyle.

– I found that tenement life in the place was deplorable. The apartments were divided into small rooms in which families had no choice but to sleep anywhere, such as on the ground and on chairs. Furthermore, there were no private bathrooms, or running water. I was able to see this conditions firsthand on the trip to the LES Tenement Museum. I was shocked to see the bathroom which only consisted of a dirty toilet and to hear that they were forced to shower in communal baths.

-Despite living in grim conditions, immigrants tried their best to make their apartments visually appealing. “Immigrants often went to great lengths to clean and decorate their apartments, fixing up their parlors with curtains, mirrors, and bric-a-brac.” This was evident in the Tenement Museum. I saw layers of linoleum on the floor and multiple layers of wallpaper on the walls.

-I was shocked to learn that the Jews faced Anti-Semitism and were openly excluded from Jackson Heights (when this neighborhood began). It’s ironic that this immigrant group left their homeland to escape discrimination, and they still came to face it in New York.

-I was intrigued to learn that the Jews and Italians were rarely neighbors. “Most blocks were heavily dominated, if not exclusively populated, by one or the other immigrant group.” Why did this occur? Why couldn’t there be interracial mixing of neighborhoods?

– I thought it was interesting that Foner mentioned that Richmond Hill is an enclave for East Indian immigrants. This area is dubbed “Little Guyana” since many Guyanese immigrants live here.  Being Guyanese, I used to visit this area every week when I was small. This area actually did feel like “Little Guyana” since there are many West Indian stores located on this avenue. Furthermore, many Guyanese residents would walk the avenue every weekend to do their grocery shopping and to socialize.

 

Berger

Berger talks a lot about Ditmas Park and the residents who live in it. It seems like he’s glorifying Ditmas Park and how it truly is a “melting pot” of so many different ethnicities. In the reading, Beckman says that even though she grew up on the Village’s Bank Street in the 1960s, and lived among the brownstones of Carroll Gardens she still found the neighborhood becoming “too white” and moved to Ditmas Park as a result. This reminded me of the time when I went on vacation to China. I had never realized the impact of the diversity in New York until I went on that vacation. Like Beckman, I found China to be “too Asian” and I found myself getting excited every time I saw someone of a different ethnicity, whether they were living there or were tourists.

The last statement at the end, where Beckman says “What’s scary is that it could change,” when talking about the multicultural aspect of Ditmas Park. I feel as though something like that isn’t necessarily scary. Sure, it could be taking one step away from where we are trying to go towards: a true melting pot of people, with multicultural neighborhoods everywhere. But nothing is ever stagnant; if one neighborhood changes, so will another. And another. And the one after that. Ditmas Park might be taking a step backwards but maybe another neighborhood might become more multicultural. And, what if it doesn’t change? People of different ethnicities and cultures are always going to be moving in and out of neighborhoods.

From Ellis Island to JFK – Chapter 2

The beginning of Chapter 2 introduces an how and where the immigrants lived. Thomas Kessner, an immigrants, could not live outside the borough of Manhattan. All the jobs were in Manhattan – so he had to be close to that source if there were any new opportunities or job openings. The commuting time would be too long as well; it just wasn’t practical for an immigrant to live far away from where the jobs were, which were in Manhattan. So, this brought on the crowding of immigrants in Manhattan, particularly the lower east side. Nowadays, living in Manhattan is reflective of having money. With the commute time cut down, more immigrants can live outside of the Manhattan. Although the lower east side (particularly Chinatown) is still cheaper than the rest of Manhattan, it is still more expensive than living in the other boroughs. I find it interesting that with the development of technology, the groups that live in the boroughs switched.

Foner describes the clear distinction of racial neighborhoods of the Italians and the Jews, even though they might be geographically next to each other. It’s interesting that “a block that may have been ethnically mixed in 1905 was almost certainly in a transitional stage, soon to be dominated by one group in 1925”. This reminded me of the conflict theory in which “diversity fosters out-group distrust and in-group solidarity” when blocks were rarely shared by Italians and Jews; it was always one or the other group. It’s vastly different than today, in Berger’s reading whereas Ditmas Park has residents of different ethnicities living right next door to each other. In Ditmas Park, there was never a majority of one ethnicity, but groups of minorities. Foner speaks of how Jacob Riis would still be turning in his grave at the site of the immigrants still living in squalid housing, but in other aspects, we have come a long way since segregation.

Salvo Talk

After Joe Salvo’s talk, I had begun to really see how my neighborhood has faced such drastic demographic changes. I hadn’t realized that even when I lived in Brooklyn, the population vastly changed before my eyes. For example, in the late 90s, Bensonhurst was mostly considered an Italian and Jewish neighborhood, but by the time I moved to Staten Island, Asians, as well as Russians heavily populated it. What I found interesting from the talk was how the younger population tries to move away from racially stereotypically areas and tries to form their own niche elsewhere. For example, younger Asian Americans strive to move away from Chinatown, where there is a vast majority of older Asians.

What I also found interesting about Salvo’s talk was that the “melting pot” continues to flourish even today. It is also notable that even throughout New York City as a whole, the five boroughs each experience their own melting pot and have different nationalities moving in and out. He also makes note of the other cities that are similarly culturally diverse, yet not as diverse as NYC.

 

Questions that arose: Why do people move in and out of certain boroughs in NYC?

Foner

Nancy Foner reading 1-Talking points

-Throughout the United States, blacks are “quintessentially racialized Americans, with their special position of disadvantage rooted in two hundred years of African slavery and a hundred years of state-sponsored discrimination”

-Given the extremely low levels of education and high poverty rates among foreign-born Cambodians, Laotians, and Hmong, these groups do not fit the “model minority” stereotype of Asians, which flourishes in cities like NY.

-The growing number, and significance, of Hispanics and Asians in the past few decades in NY, as elsewhere in the nation, have led to a move away from thinking about race as a matter of black and white.

-alternate side parking regulations were suspended on 34 legal and religious holidays in 2005, included the Asian Lunar New Year, Purim and Passover, and the feast of the assumption, the Muslim holiday of id-al-Adha, and the Hindu celebration of Diwaii.

-class and ethnicity tend to overlap in ways that cumulate advantages for euro-Americans, who set the standard to which others aspire.

Klinenberg

In the Klinenberg article, I found it interesting that he was able to reaffirm what I had previously suspected was the main reason as to which populations had the greatest death toll and which had the least amount. It seemed that mostly people in the poor and squalid areas of Chicago had the greatest amount of deaths, while those who were better off had avoided such a fate.

I think Klinenberg deserves credit for the fact that he does mention certain criticisms of both the state, as well as the media as the major cause for so many deaths in certain areas of Chicago. Klinenberg also mentions that the mayor refused to take blame for the lack of attention given to certain areas. The mayor pretty much stated that it is the responsibility of the citizens to take care of themselves and their lack of judgment and control was the cause of such unrest. However, he also takes a different side and mentions that although the government should have provided some relief and attention to those areas, it is also the job of the citizens to help along and work with the government side by side to ease problems. For example, during Hurricane Sandy, I had a few friends that were in Zone A of the affected areas and even though they were told to evacuate multiple times, they refused to do so. Once the storm hit, they had regretted their decisions immediately.

The media played an interesting role in the disaster that occurred during the heat wave as well. The media tends either over-exaggerate certain events and under-exaggerate others. During the heat wave, not enough attention was brought upon the poor neighborhoods and many suffered because of this. The media also got the government involved because whenever a the governmental officials are in jeopardy of looking bad in the public eye, they must redeem themselves for lack of involvement in the issue.

Sewing Women 5-9

In “Sewing Women”, chapters 1-4 focused on the differences in the hiring practices of Chinese and Korean factories, while 5-9 focused on the layout of the factories. For example, the Chinese were paid according to how many garments they made and were able to finish. The workers often worked with their families and people who spoke Chinese. However, in the Korean factories, it was more of an assembly line in which one garment was worked on by a few people. The Korean factories also hired more Mexican people and Ecuadorian and this often prevented people from socializing with one another. Korean factory owners also discrimated against those workers of African decent, as well as Puerto Rican because of a notion that they were lazy as opposed to Mexicans.

 
The working conditions in both factories was less than satisfying, but for some reason it seemed that the conditions in the Chinese factories were somewhat better than those in the Korean factories. The Korean factories seem more stressful and strenuous than the more lenient work done in the Chinese factories. However, even though conditions were better, this prevented some of the women from asking for higher pay. The fact that each worker worked on a single garment at a time also allowed for much error and made it obvious where the error stemmed from.

Berger-Post 2

Almost immediately, Berger’s use of the mosaic theory captured my attention. On a demographic map, each ethnicity is a different color, but they all live together-like one big family. Each nationality combines with the next to form one big mosaic. However Berger also criticizes the theory of the “melting pot” and I disagree with that because it is evident in our every day lives that we indeed live in a melting pot. Just take a look at each class at Hunter. Asians, Europeans, Africans, and many more nationalities co-exist and thrive in one environment. Although each person has their own little piece in the mosaic, they all interact and form the larger melting pot.

E. Pluribus Unum-attempt 2

Contact Theory Vs. Conflict Theory is what Robert D.Putnam discusses in his article “E.Pluribus Unum”. The contact theory in Putnam’s eyes essentially means that people who are surrounded by those like them feel more comfortable in the environment as opposed to with people of different nationalities. The comfort would eventually lead to a greater and more productive working environment for the workers. The theory also fosters that people are more likely to look after one another if they are of the same background and trust develops amongst them. The other theory Putnam discusses is the Conflict theory, which states that, “diversity fosters out-group distrust and in-group solidarity”. This means that as diversity is increased, the trust existing between groups will be lower in general.

I found both theories interesting because I can see how both can play a role in society. For example, I know that many people of my nationality, for example Russians, feel more comfortable working with other Russians most of the time because of similar work ethics. However, sometimes this system can run haywire and follow the second theory. The resisting of forming other social groups results in solidarity within a group of people.

From Ellis Island to JFK – Chapter 1

I find it really amazing that there is a vast difference between the salaries of people in different countries. In the first chapter it states that “in 1987, the minimum monthly salary for fulltime work in the United States was six times higher than that in the Dominican Republic; by 1991 it was thirteen times higher,” and that most things were taken for granted here in the United States. While that is true the fact that a woman who used to work in a large urban hospital in Brazil made five times more than what she used to by being a babysitter in New York is astounding. Then this spirals into a huge snowball, with the news spreading everywhere in the other countries like a virus. Immigrants are flooding to America with hopes and dreams, and if some of them failed, there were still their friends and families who had been there before they had to soften their fall. That was what happened to my family, even now. My parents had immigrated here in the late 1900s, before any of my relatives. After I was born, more and more of my relatives started coming in from China. During these past two years, my relatives from my mother’s side started flying out to New York. We were the safety net for my other relatives, much like how it was described in the book.

I find it really disheartening that immigrants who had been qualified for their jobs before could not get the same jobs in America. It reminded me slightly of the recents newspaper article that the returning veterans couldn’t get a job even though they were promised one, even if they were skilled in that area in the army. In a way, I feel like that is a bit both unfair and fair. Fair because maybe the education is really different, and just because you were skilled in another country doesn’t mean that you will be skilled in America; unfair because they have already had the education and skills to have a job, but are being denied one.

From Ellis Island to JFK (Chapter 1)

In the first chapter of Foner’s From Ellis Island to JFK, she discusses the new wave of immigrants coming into New York today. This was interesting because it dispels the previous notions of immigrants that people hold. The immigrants of the past were not all uneducated and from the lowest parts of society. Many of them possessed some kind of specialized skill. What I found to be the most interesting, however, was the descriptions of today’s immigrants, many of which were probably professionals in their home country. It is unfortunate that these immigrants to New York are still stereotyped as uneducated, when the reason they cannot find a suitable job based on their skills is because of restrictions placed on them by society.

The way new immigrants arrive to the United States today is also remarkably different than past immigrants. Only a short trip on an airplane separates an immigrant from the life he/she hopes to live. However, not everyone can come to America whenever they please. Those that try to enter illegally face much hardship in gaining access to the opportunities in America. But the act of trying, despite these difficulties, is remarkable. Even after centuries of immigration, people still see America as the door to a better life. People from all over the world still want to come to America and be a part of the American life. In a way, this shows how the American culture has become something significant in itself.

-Wendy Li

Sewing Women (5-9)

In these chapters of Sewing Women, the differences between the Chinese and the Korean sectors of the garment industry are further examined. This was interesting to me because I did not know a Korean sector existed at all. When I hear about garment factories, I assume the ones mentioned are the ones located in Chinatown that employed Chinese workers. The existence of the Korean sector uptown from the Chinese sector is significant. Working uptown can be seen as a step upwards with regards to social mobility. However, it was surprising to me that most of the workers there were undocumented immigrants. It was also surprising that Korean owners found Chinese workers to be unreliable in the assembly line system they had set up. In this way, the two sectors were isolated because they rarely overlapped.

The existence of the two sectors also revealed a much more dynamic garment industry. In the Chinese sector there was a give-and-take system between the owners and the workers. In this way both parties benefited. However the system of sponsoring a new worker also created a liability and prevented the workers from earning higher wages. This was relevant to the disadvantages of coethnic networks mentioned in “Moving On”. As a result of personal connections, workers never acquired the skills to find a job outside of the garment industry or outside of Chinatown. Therefore, in the industry, there is a constant duality of benefits and risks. Workers get health insurance coverage and can be referred to job positions by fellow coethnics, but are exploited by owners, who try to give low wages and minimize expenses spent on training and recruitment, and are restricted to work in the garment industry alone.

      One question that I had while reading was about the owners of the garment factories. Most of the text was about the experience of the worker and what the owners expected of them. However, what was the situation of the factory owners? Did the retailers above them pressure them as well? In this way, the way the owners treated the garment workers becomes subjective because they probably had their own family to support and provide for too.

-Wendy Li

Trust and Knowledge (Putnam Response)

Overall, this article really confused me. The idea that diversity directly correlates to levels of trust felt weird. Does Putnam mean the trust among and between everyone in general? Or just the level of trust displayed from one race to another race? But past all of this confusion, I like that he focused on some positive aspects of immigration as well.

Putnam says that immigration leads to more knowledge prizes won, which indicates that those living in America as a whole become smarter when there are more immigrants. Not only do non-American immigrants have an incredible chance at become Nobel prize winners, but these immigrants are able to share their knowledge with their folks in their home countries. Diversity and immigration lead to better nations overall. That’s one of the reasons why colleges strive to create a diverse environment. People learn from each other’s differences. And why would you not trust someone who can help you become a better you?

Sewing Women (1-4)

These chapters were interesting in that they revealed all the different faces of the garment factory. The industry was not a stagnant business dominated by only one group of people. Instead, the industry was dynamic in that a progression of groups became its employees as conditions pushed and pulled new immigrants into the business. First the majority of garment workers were Jewish, then it was the Italians, followed by African Americans, Puerto Ricans, and ultimately the Chinese. This put the garment factory into context with larger migration patterns of the country. This also gave insight as to how succeeding immigrant groups had similar aspirations in the new world when compared to those of the groups before them.

The dynamic nature of the garment industry was also interesting because it fit in with the dynamic nature of New York City. Noted in the chapters were well-known designers who chose to give jobs to garment factories in the city rather than overseas because it was more convenient and much quicker. Therefore it is not too far of a stretch to say that the garment industry contributed to New York’s status as one of the fashion capitals in the world.

Regarding the differences in the Chinese and Korean garment workplace, one thing that I found confusing was how the Koreans were so much more adept in learning Spanish. This most likely contributed to how different the Chinese workplace, which was more relaxed, was when compared to the Korean garment workplace, which was more strict and rigid.

I also found the patterns of migration discussed in the chapters to be very interesting. My family followed more closely with the staged pattern of migration. My parents first immigrated to New York. Then they brought my grandparents from both sides of the family over. My aunt and uncle immigrated here only five years ago when their paperwork was finally processed. A majority of my extended family still lives in China.

-Wendy Li

Chin1-4

After reading the first few chapters of “Sewing Woman”, I gathered a few important key points about the factory workers in New York City. First of all, there seemed to have been a drastic difference between Korean factories and Chinese factories. The Chinese factory owners employed mostly Chinese workers, while Korean factories also employed Mexican workers. The Chinese owned factories also seemed quite laid back, as opposed to the Korean factories, the workers had to follow a much stricter time schedule and rarely had time to interact with one another. However, it is also interesting to see that although the Chinese had a much more friendly and family-like setting, they got paid less than Mexican and Ecuadorian factory workers in the Korean factories. Granted, the Chinese also didn’t have enough time to work because they were taking care of their children, whereas the Mexicans came without children.

Along with racial differences that existed in Korean factories and Chinese factories, genders also added to the vast differences. For example, in Chinese factories, the majority of the work force consisted of women. This job was more strategic for women since it was less strenuous than other jobs available to immigrants during those times.

Question: Why did Mexican/Ecuadorian women/men leave their children behind in order to find work as opposed to the Chinese that took their children with them?

Assumptions (Chin, Chapters 5-9)

These chapters revealed the truth behind the hiring process in Chinese and Korean garment factories. The discrimination that went into the process, as many have mentioned, was cruel and undeserving for many workers. How is it possible to know a person’s work ethic if one judges them solely by race? And not even by race in some cases, but strictly by skin color. Although it worked in the Chinese people’s favor in specific situations, for all others, such as the Puerto Ricans, blacks, and darker Ecuadorians, they had no such luck.

The stereotypes and hiring decisions associated with different occupations still exist, even though discriminatory hiring is illegal. For example, the assumption that all restaurants are owned by Greeks, or that all convenient stores are run by Indians, or that all Filipino women grow up to be nurses. I think it would be fascinating to research how these stereotypes came to be. The Chinese run garment factories hired only Chinese workers, and they enjoyed the familial setting, and so the tradition continued. What happened to these ethnic groups in the past that led to the creation of their respective stereotypes?

Chapter 2

The first thing that caught my attention was that Foner mentions at length Jacob Riis’ work How the Other Half Lives, which is on our reading list. I have not had a chance to read it yet, however it is certainly interesting to read about the drastic differences between Riis’ experiences in the late 1800’s to today’s immigrant patterns. Foner discusses how in modern times, immigrants don’t always end up in crowded housing like they did years before. Many immigrants are able to immediately move into more expensive housing than they would have been able to in Riis’ time, and even those who aren’t don’t live in squalor the way they did earlier. Single-ethnic communities do exist, but now so do heavily mixed communities even within new immigrants. My question is, is this simply because those arriving are socioeconomically better off than their predecessors or are there other factors in play here?

As Foner did in the first chapter by describing specific immigrants group and who they are, why the came here, and how they were received when they did, Foner goes on to describe the specific groups in relation to where and how they lived after they first arrived. She says that “despite grim conditions” many immigrants decorated their apartments a lot. And although many were living in close quarters with many others in their families, they often took on more people to live with them to make more money. Foner says that there were many problems with the boarders that people took on, including jealousy in marriage if a boarder became attracted to the host’s wife.

Sacrifice (Chin, Chapter 1-4)

The aspect of this reading that affected me the most was the idea of sacrifice, and the differences in sacrifice that different ethnic groups had to experience in order to try and create better lives for themselves and their children. While there is a certain amount of sacrifice that goes into any large move, the differences are highlighted in the Korean ran versus Chinese ran factory comparison.

Chinese garment factory owners hired mostly Chinese women as employees. The common backgrounds helped foster a relaxed and accepting environment for the workers. These workers, who were not just Chinese women, but Chinese women who were young and/or mothers, could not afford childcare. Therefore, they would bring their children to work and into the accepting environment. So if their families were intact, where is the sacrifice? The sacrifice was in the wages. Minimum wage was justified because the garment factory acted as a childcare facility. Although this short-term sacrifice does not seem like much of an issue, the real problems evolved as a result over time. These children basically grew up learning the ins and outs of a garment factory, and developing connections within them. Although I do not believe it was intentional, many families became confined to the garment factories. It was a comfortable environment, and so instead of moving forward, children of the workers remained stagnant.

Korean garment factory owners hired Hispanics instead of people of their own kind. The sacrifice is not too obvious. The issue was not that the Hispanics could not bring their children to work, but that they left their children behind in their home countries of Mexico and Ecuador in order to earn money to send back home. I worked as a waitress in my local suburban diner before starting school here at Hunter College, and the stories that I heard from my Hispanic coworkers were not identical, but very similar. Many of my coworkers did not have children that they left behind (most were in their low and mid 20s), but rather parents. They were working at the restaurant to save up money to send back to their homelands for their parents use. It was a sacrifice they were willing to make in order to help their mothers and fathers. Luckily, our work environment was accepting because it’s the 21st century, but the Hispanics that left their children to work in garment factories had to deal with a strict and less comfortable environment.

Alexandra Marks

The World in a City

Before reading Berger’s: “The World in a City,” I already knew that New York was a conglomerate of multiple races and cultures. One would have to essentially be blind not to see the diversity. New York is after all the city where everyone wants to come, visit and sometimes reside permanently. However, the way in which Berger characterized New York really put into context on another level just how dynamic and welcoming the neighborhoods of New York are.

From the initial chapter, Berger really summed up New York with the passage, “New York can be viewed as an archipelago, like Indonesia a collection of distinctive islands, in its case its village like neighborhoods. Each island has its own way of doing things, its own flavor, fragrance, and indelible characters. But, as a result of the roiling tides of migration and the unquenchable human restlessness and hunger for something better and grander, most of these neighborhoods are in constant, ineluctable flux.”

When I read the previous passage, I was reminded of when Joe Salvo talked about the effects of net migration in and out of various neighborhoods. It is truly surprising and interesting how the demographic of a neighborhood that was formally dominated by one race becomes more ethnically diverse or populated with another group.  For example, by looking at Astoria today, no one would have known that Greeks previously dominated it. Today they only consist of 8.6% of the current population in Astoria. Now, the neighborhood simply within a two-block radius consists of a “veritable souk, with shops selling halal meat, Syrian pastries, and airplane tickets to Morocco, driving lessons in Arabic, Korans and other Muslim books.”  You really get a sense and a piece of multiple cultures. However, this isn’t the case solely in Astoria which is why New York is such a great place to be.

By living at the dorms, I have access to any food of my choosing. I can walk within a three-block radius and find Chinese, Spanish and Italian food. My only question is, in neighborhoods where there is an initial dominating ethnic enclave, what are the factors that contribute to this group picking a particular neighborhood? How long do homogenous enclaves last in New York before a neighborhood diversifies?

-Ashley Haynes

Chapter 1

I particularly liked the following lines “The reasons why millions have left their homelands to come to America are complex and multifaceted. It has always been too simple to see immigration to this country as a quest for liberty and freedom. Nor is the move inevitably an escape from hunger and want, as the occupational backgrounds of many of today’s newcomers make clear” (9). I have always wondered at the American stance on those who emigrate to here because as we know from the past, and as Foner points out, those who came didn’t always (or even usually) find equality or freedom.

Foner discusses the different groups who have come to America, and their subgroups. This, I think, is an interesting and more correct way of looking at things as often times peoples who are vastly different are still lumped together when talking about American immigration. She mentions the variety in not only ethnicity, but also in socio-economic classes and occupations which has been discussed in various other readings this semester.

Foner discusses illegal immigration and states that the ratio of the undocumented to the legal foreign-born is low, even in New York City. She goes on to state that those immigrants who do come here, aren’t always the scum of their former countries as some may assume, often they have college degrees.

From Ellis Island to JFK Chap 1

-In this chapter, Foner focuses on where immigrants came from, why they came, and how they arrived. It was interesting to learn of the different reasons as to why immigrants left their home country. Some immigrants were escaping political and religious oppression while others were escaping a bad economy. It is interesting to note that many of these factors that influence immigrants to leave their hometown are similar to those of immigrants in the past, the Russian Jews and the Italians.

-Foner mentions that those that are highly educated and that held high professional jobs in their homeland sometimes come to this country and take jobs that they are overqualified for. Is this because their licenses from their home country do not work in this United States? If so, I don’t see why they cannot practice their profession in the U.S. if they are qualified. Is there a way for these immigrants to keep their high professional jobs in the United States instead of having to work up the “ladder?”

-I was surprised to learn that a Brazilian woman who worked as a nurse in her homeland was paid less than the salary she received as a babysitter in the United States. This shows how bad the economy is in their homelands and why the immigrants chose to leave their homeland for a better opportunity in the United States.

-I was appalled to learn of the immigrant journey to the United States. “Passengers were crammed together in dark, crowded, unsanitary, and foul-smelling quarters on tiers of iron bunks with straw mattresses.” They had to pick insects out of their food and were forced to use vile bathrooms. They were living like animals during a trip that lasted around two weeks. What was shocking was that they were not traveling illegally; it was a legal immigration process! This is a drastic comparison as to how people now travel to the United States by an airplane. It was mentioned that an undercover agent from the Immigration Commission was on one of these voyages. Did her report make a significant change to these unsanitary conditions?

-I found it ridiculous that people in the past were denied entry to the United States because they were illiterate or they had physical injury. I was shocked to learn that Matteo, an immigrant from Italy, was denied entry to the United States by Italy because he had an injured eye. Restrictions into the country shouldn’t be based on literacy or physical injury.

-Anissa Daimally

Foner Chapter 1

-Foner did a really good job dispelling many known misconceptions regarding trends in immigration. I felt as though it was really important for her to say that not all immigrants who come to the US are poor as the quote of the Statue of Liberty helps attest to. Such a belief lessens the great nation that the US is by essentially labeling America as the poor man’s country. America is just as prominent of a magnet for the intellectual, innovative classes of immigrants as for those without. As Foner states, “the ethnic diversity of today’s immigrant population is matched by the variety of their occupational and class backgrounds.” Not only are there the poor farmers but physicians and scientists as well.

-The section in which Foner depicts how most immigrants came was really an eye opener. The depiction of the immigrants on the steerage part of the ship was deplorable: un-mopped compartments, worm infestations, foul odor. It made me wonder how after such a traumatic experience did these immigrants manage to pass the health test to gain citizenship. Then, on the ship where the Immigration Commission sent out an agent to investigate these conditions, did the agent realize a large amount of immigrants present on these ships fail physical health test? If so what were the numbers?

-When I read that steamship companies had resorted to conducting their own test on immigrants, I felt as though who are they to judge who will get rejected citizenship. I understand that it cost money to return rejected immigrants but was it really that much of a burden. I find it very suspicious that the Italian ports rejected more than 35,000 intending emigrants compared to the much smaller number of 4,707 rejected at Ellis Island between 1904 and 1905.

-Ashley Haynes

 

Foner Chapter 1: Two thoughts

1.   The concept of being “white’ is a general one that is often used to encompass many, mostly European, immigrant groups.  But when the groups first arrived in new York they were rarely considered to be white because they were marked as foreigners as most immigrants are.  It is only through a gradual and subtle process that each group of European immigrants, including German, Irish, Italian, French, British, etc.  become labeled as such.  What is this process?  Does it vary from group to group or is their a consistent process of going from “italian” to “white”  or “german” to “white”.

2.  A complex problem involving highly educated immigrants is their struggle to find high paying and prestigious jobs in America.  Many immigrants, especially those in Foner’s “second wave”, are particularly well educated and in some cases even wealthy.  But many immigrants are forced to forfeit their careers in medicine, government, and law simply because their degrees are not honored in America.  Is there a conceivable solution to this problem that would allow immigrants to more easily integrate into the “white collar” workforce, or will immigrants be forever subject to re-climbing the socio-economic ladder?

-Victor Rerick

Moving On

“Moving On” focuses on the aftereffects of 9.11 on the garment workers in NYC.
One thing I found baffling was that although the factory workers already made a meager pay, they were paid even less after they had lost their jobs. This meant that the lifestyles that were already less than satisfying sharply decreased. I can’t imagine being put into such a situation, but I can however relate because when my parents got laid off from work when they first came here, our way of life declined significantly.

 
I also found it interesting that although the sharpest decline of factory work occurred after 9.11, factory work had been declining way before 9.11. Labor had been outsourced to other places and sweatshops contributed to a steady decline. However, I was just as shocked to realize that although the industry had been declining, “apparel is one of the two largest manufacturing industries in the city”. I was not surprised however, to see that even though Chinatown is such a small area, it is so densely populated and after 9.11 business had gone down drastically because most Chinese worked in that specific area in the factories established there.

From Ellis Island to JFK – Ch. 1

– Why are undocumented Dominican immigrants more likely to have been professionals and managers in the Dominican Republic?  This point seems counterintuitive to me, especially since Foner made a point about the “the richest of the rich and the poorest of the poor…[being] unmoved or unable to move” (p. 15).

– Immigrants that are well educated sometimes cannot find a job in America that matches their qualifications; they thus take up jobs for which they are are underpaid and overqualified.  How can this discrepancy be resolved?  Is it possible to reconcile the exapnsion of higher education with high-level jobs?

– Foner highlights the stark contrast between the migrants from the first wave of immigration in the United States and the immigrants of today.  I found it particularly interesting that the immigrants of today come from diverse socioeconomic backgrounds.  Foner draws attention to the fact that newcomers to America include both those that are lightly educated and those that are low-skilled and poorly educated.  Over the years, I have noticed that my own group of friends and family that came from India or Pakistan occupy a wide range of occupations and usually have “high levels of educational attainment,” as Foner elucidates in Chapter 1, thus adhering to the truth of this statement.

– I found the description of the migration process as a movement that is “self-perpetuating” to be quite interesting.  This characterization sheds light upon the way in which immigration patterns of the past exert an influence on present immigration patterns.  I see this fact readily apparent in the ways in which a large majority of my own family and acquaintances have come to New York: those that are already here sponsor other family and friends, and also encourage them with their favorable descriptions.

Response to “From Ellis Island to JFK”

1. Is “offensive foreign political ideology” that barred entrance to New York for immigrants in the early 20th century referring to only communism or were there more political ideologies people here were afraid of? Also, how could one tell that a prospective immigrant had those ideologies?

2. Who were the people that were “likely to become public charges” that were not allowed to come into New York? The book mentioned criminals and the mentally ill were not allowed in, and then said that those likely to become public charges were also prohibited from entering the US. Who were the people that were put into this category and how were they judged?

3. “Steamship lines no longer channel immigration into New York, yet the presence of large numbers of friends and relatives continues to attract immigrants to the city and the surrounding region. Once an immigrant community develops, it tends to expand as compatriots are on hand to offer newcomers a sense of security and the prospect of assistance.” I felt like this statement disagreed with the Putnam article, since Putnam emphasized how people got more isolated when they immigrated to a diverse place and even felt less connected to those of their own ethnicity. In this Foner book, immigration sounds like one is going to a country where they have lots friends and even though it is true for some people, I still doubt it is more friends than they at home. What I mean to emphasize is that I doubt most people feel like they are coming to a place where they have more friends than they had before, since this quote makes it sound like it is the amount of friends and relatives that attracts immigrants. I think the aforementioned jobs and strength of currency are really the driving forces in immigration, and if people happen to have friends in the US as well they are just lucky like that.

Response to Putnam

Putnam gives a description of the positive and negative aspects of immigration. On the positive side immigrants enhance creativity,winning laureates and academy awards, they are generally associated with rapid economic growth, and help to offset the impending  fiscal effects of the retirement of the baby boom generation. These admittedly were not positive effects I had even really thought about. Usually when I think about the benefits of immigrants, I mainly think about the diversity and culture they bring to America, but immigrants are really rooted in the foundation of America not just socially but politically and economically.

Putnam, however, goes on to explain two theories that explain social capital and interaction. The first is the social contact theory. It says that if two ethnic groups are in contact with each other, they get over their initial hesitations and are more likely to accept and care for each other. The social conflict theory, on the other hand says quite the opposite. It says that if two or more ethnic groups live close to each other, because of reasons including limited resources, the groups will actually be more distrustful of each other and become more confined within their own ethnic group. There is still much debate over which theory better applies, but personally I believe in the social contact theory. Immigrants and diversity is crucial for a country to be successful and progressive. It is important to understand the customs and culture of other countries, and immigrants provide an opportunity to gain this knowledge. We need immigrants. They have become one of the most important influences on American culture, and people will have to learn to accept it.

Emma Park-Hazel

Response to Zhou, Chin, and Kim

This reading was very interesting because I was surprised to learn that better wages and employment is no longer the driving force behind emigration. Because of the global economic restructuring, immigration to American has not only become a means of escape for many immigrants who are suffering either political or religious turmoil or extreme poverty, but for more complex reasons such as accessing institutionalized credit and insurance markets, educational opportunities for their children, and formal and informal migration networks. A large part of this change is due to the types of immigrants that are coming to this country. Instead of the poor,uneducated masses, a new class of highly-skilled, educated, and even affluent Chinese immigrants are beginning to emerge.

As a result, this new class of Chinese immigrants is taking over neighborhoods in both New York and Los Angeles and gentrifying the neighborhoods. They have created these “ethnoburbs” and in fact made many neighborhoods more diverse. I was also surprised that the different Chinatowns, especially in New York represent different populations of Chinese immigrants. Living in New York CIity all my life and being to both Manhattan and Flushing’s Chinatowns many times I had always assumed the immigrants were largely Cantonese immigrants. However, according to the article, the immigrants that settled into Flushing were mainly Taiwanese who were skilled and educated and thus Flushing became a thriving commercial area.

In the creation of all these new Chinatowns, and other ethnoburbs, a lot of the authenticity of these neighborhoods and not simply assimilating to become “‘indistinguishably’ American or white” is reliant on communication and the ever progressing technology. Immigrating to America no longer means losing connection with family and traditional roots of the emigrated country because most places are only a Skype phone call away.

Emma Park-Hazel

Sewing Women Chapters 5-9

These chapters focus on the overall structure of the Korean and Chinese factories as well as the hiring practices and working conditions. The Chinese garment factories form a much tighter community since they only hire other Chinese workers. They have similar customs and values. While some of my classmates said that this exclusivity practiced by the Chinese factories is unfair, it made me wonder about how many other businesses hire people of their own ethnic background, espeicially buisnesses run by immigrants. It goes along the same lines as the same ethnic group all mving to one neighborhhod. Coming into a new country is daunting and immigrant workers want to hire other workers who they can trust and have similar values to them. Thus in a country where so much is foreign to you, wouldn’t you want to hire people who are motivated by similar factors to make money and become successful as you as well as build a community? I suspect that it is not only the Chinese whose only hire people from their same ethnic group.

Also, I was pretty surprised at the harsh treatment in the Korean factories. While the Koreans hire workers of other ethnic backgrounds such as Mexican and Ecuadorians, they are also much stricter. The Koreans do not take untrained workers and they only allow workers to do a certain part of the production, the worker does not even make the full garment. The fact that a version of the assembly line is still very prominently used was quite a wake up call for me. Back in the 1900s, one of the big complaints about the factories was the use of the assembly line, and it really hasn’t dissolved even today. Why haven’t people spoken up about the menial assembly line being used in these modern factories?

LA/NYC

This article explores the changing immigration patterns of the Asian population in the region of LA/NYC. The article makes it evident that newly arriving Chinese immigrants are forming more a middle class and are not settling in purely Asian areas. Youngsters are becoming more and more Americanized, yet are still keeping in touch with their Asian roots because of places like Chinatown in NYC. The article strays away from the previous pieces in that the newly arriving Asians are more affluent and are generally more into the middle class of society, instead of the lower class like they used to be in the time of when factory work was so popular. What I also found interesting was the vast difference between the many Asian languages that for the longest time I found to be very similar. For example, those who know Cantonese do not necessarily know Mandarin and vice versa.

Question: Why did the Asian population choose places like Canal St. in Manhattan and Homecrest in Brooklyn to migrate to originally?

Ethnic Tiles

In Berger’s The World in a City, I really liked his use of the phrase “different-colored ethnic tiles” (19). I find the mosaic theory, which is what Berger is talking about here, to be an interesting one. It definitely has merit to it, as you see from maps like the ones that Joe Salvo showed us where you can see just who is living where, next to whom. People identify differently based on their ethnicity, their background, their ancestry, but in New York City, everyone lives among each other. Yes there are neighborhoods like Chinatown and Little Italy, but those neighborhoods cross over each other, especially over time, and they do still interact because they are just smaller portions of the bigger City. Berger also talks about the melting pot theory, and relates some people’s opinions that the city isn’t a melting pot, but rather we all just inhabit the same land and don’t interact with those outside of our preconceived social circles. I don’t agree with that, but perhaps that’s simply because of my going to school and having to interact with everyone in my classes. Yes it’s true that we relate better to those who are more similar to us, but I don’t think that means that we isolate ourselves completely from those who are more dissimilar to us.

Out of Many, One.

In E Pluribus Unum (which is Latin for “Out of many, one”), Robert D. Putnam gives two main theories/hypotheses for how diversity impacts a community. The first theory is called the contact theory, which provides the argument that “diversity fosters interethnic tolerance and social solidarity” (141). Essentially, what Putnam means is that people who are used to diversity will be more comfortable around those of other ethnicities to themselves, and the entire group will be more capable of working together well. The second theory is called the  conflict theory, which provides the argument that “diversity fosters out-group distrust and in-group solidarity” (142). This theory is exactly the opposite of the first, because it means that those who are used to diversity will begin to distrust those of other ethnicities and stay closer to those of the same ethnicity. Putnam disagrees with what that these two theories seem to have in common, that trusting one’s own group is negatively correlated to trusting any outsider group(s).

A question had concerning this reading was simply that I am curious as to all of the already discovered/studied benefits and hindrances that ethnic diversity has on groups of people both living with diversity and living without diversity. (I think this maybe worded rather horribly, but I hope one can understand my meaning).

Putnam reading response

Robert Putnam, in his “E Pluribus Unum” paper, discusses how immigration and diversity impact a society both negatively and positively. He introduces diversity and immigration in a really positive tone, presenting many study-determined facts that portray these two concept as steadily increasing. Particularly, these two factors are predicted to improve democracy, solidarity, economic growth; they also seem to be associated with increase in creativity, contribution to Social Security..etc. Thus, diversity and immigration seem to be extremely positive for a society. However, after introducing the concept that “social networks have value”, as they can impact a person’s average income or a neighborhood crime rates, Putnam presents two main theories on how diversity and immigration impact a community.

  • The social contact theory. It predicts that if two races are in contact with each other, they are most likely to accept and care for each other. It predicts that in an ethnically diverse  neighborhood there is more social trust and erosion in distinctions between two groups.
  • The social conflict theory. It predicts that if two or more races live close to each other, they will start noticing the differences between them and will be even more unable to accept them. It predicts that with increased ethnic diversity, there will be lower social trust.

The studies that Putnam and other surveys have conducted do not prove either, as the more ethically diverse a neighborhood is, the less people are likely to trust different groups but even their own group.

Social trust, however, has been proven to increase when the social difference between two groups is smaller.

 

Sara Camnasio

Response to New York vs Los Angeles

I thought it was interesting that the immigrants that are coming to the US now and not coming for jobs and higher wages than they would have in their home country. The article said more people are coming for things like better education for their children. It was surprising to me because the impression I get is that it is still money that drives a lot of immigration. However, it is cool how immigrants that came to the US in 2010 helped get California out of recession. Facts like that make immigration seem if not essential to the US economy, then at least very helpful. It is true that investment in US real estate shows how immigrants are interested in staying in US, and I think the fact that immigrants who are coming in have money to invest is beneficial to the economy. It seems like a great exchange: people who come to the US looking get whatever they’re looking for and also bring their skills and possibly wealth to benefit the US. Both parties benefit. The fact that a lot of Chinese people are now taking governmental positions shows how these people are definitely not those who come to US to just look for work, but they live in the US and are making this country their own. Some neighborhoods with a Chinese majority are home to recent immigrants and others to those who are well established, but the choice is there for people, they can choose which neighborhood to live in depending on whether they want a city life or want to move to the suburbs eventually.

Putnam Response

In E Pluribus Unum, Putnam describes the issue concerning social capital, diversity, and solidarity.  Something I found quite interesting about this article was the exploration of the different hypotheses mentioned.  Living in the city, it’s interesting to think about these ideas in the context of where we live and go to school and who we interact with in these places.  The first theory is the contact hypothesis, which says that diversity encourages “interethnic tolerance and social solidarity.”  This hypothesis is arguing that the more we come in contact with people who are different than us, the more we get used to interacting with them making us trust them more.  This is a more optimistic idea arguing that more contact with people who are different than us will rid us of ethnocentric feelings and foster trust and solidarity.  This idea makes sense to me; however, Putnam continues to describe another hypothesis that is very different than this.  The conflict hypothesis says that diversity creates distrust and solidarity within the same ethnic group.  This is saying that contact with people of different races causes us to trust our race more and to trust the others less.  Thus, diversity and solidarity are negatively correlated.  Putnam also proposes a third idea, the constrict hypothesis.  This idea argues that diversity decreases solidarity within one race and amongst multiple races.

It was interesting to see that most of the evidence in the surveys showed that the conflict theory was most prominent.  For example, in one test the participant was asked if they trusted the ethnic categories.  It was found that in more homogenous areas, interracial trust was high; however, in heterogeneous areas, interracial trust was low.  Another study showed that in more diverse neighborhoods, people trusted their neighbors less.  Also, trust of one’s own group was lower in more diverse areas.  Another survey showing ethnocentric trust (trust in your own race minus trust in other races) showed that maybe the constrict hypothesis is a better way to describe America today.

Putnam says that people living in diverse communities often withdraw from collective life, distrust their neighbors regardless of their race, and withdraw from close friends.  He also says these people expect the worst from their communities and their leaders, volunteer less, give less to charity, work on community projects less often, and register to vote less.  Putnam says people in diverse areas tend to agitate for social reform more, but do not believe they will make much of a difference.  These people also tend to watch a good amount of television.

Ultimately, Putnam, like many other people I suppose, hope for a way for all people to live together in a way that will bring us together and bring us together.  He looks forward to creating a sense of “we” that connects our identities without pushing us into solitude.  Putnam hopes to create an America in which the ideal, E Pluribus Unum, or out of many, one, is reflected.

Some questions I had about the reading:  Why do immigrant groups have higher fertility rates than native-born people?  Why does the income of native-born people rise more rapidly when they work in places with more immigrants?

“The World in A City”-Berger Response

– Does the assimilation model of the ethnic enclave serving only as a temporary home for certain groups to “make it” and go up on the social ladder really best describe NYC? Is it the best model available for demographic changes?

– The comparison of assimilation of Arabs and Muslims into American society as opposed to European society is very interesting. Apparently American society is much more receptive and enthusiastic than European society in that “in London, Paris, and Hamburg, there is far more ambivalence [towards Muslims]. Even two and three generations after they began settling in those cities, the Muslim underclass tends to remain outside the mainstream.” (19) How else do immigration patterns differ between NYC and the capitals of Europe?

Putnam-“E Plurius Unum” Response

Essentially, increased immigration has two effects on a society, the short-term and the long-term; while in the long run successful immigrant communities enrich their society and foster increased solidarity among their residents, their short-run affects are less than favorable. For instance, tensions and mistrust are greater in such communities at first, and altruism and cooperation within the communities are consequently lower. Putnam focuses on social networks and their importance in these communities, how they form, and what effects they have on a greater scale. For instance, social networks are important for both the people in them, and those around them. He states: “much evidence suggests that where levels of social capital are higher, children grow up healthier, safer and better educated, people live longer, happier lives, and democracy and the economy work better.” Ethnic diversity (increased immigration from various origins) is desirable because it enriches/increases social capital; a good thing too, because needless to say it is pretty much inevitable in the long run. I was curious as to what are other benefits to ethnic diversity besides increased levels of creativity and rapid economic growth?

“The Transformation of Chinese American Communities”-Response

This article explores the changes in trends of Asian American immigration and settlement in the cities of NY and LA. The most prominent new development is the increase and growth of middle-class immigrant Chinese communities. The “new” immigrants usually are better educated and more economically affluent than their 19th and 20th century predecessors and while Chinatowns still primarily serve as places for obtaining employment and a sense of community, the new Chinatowns in both NY and LA are much better linked globally on political, economic, and social levels. Instead of isolating their inhabitants, new Chinatowns serve as pathways to assimilation and incorporation into mainstream American society. I thought it was interesting how Monterey Park in LA is predominantly Chinese while Flushing and Sunset Park in NY are more “global” in that they harbor a more diverse mix of Asian ethnicities, this leads me to wonder: how did this particular trend affect the residential mobility prescribed to each of the neighborhoods? How does this affect each of these areas politically?

Putnam Response

In this article, Putnam explores the nature of diversity and its effect on individuals and the community. The widely accepted theory is that diversity promotes in-group solidarity while discouraging out-group solidarity. In other words, diversity leads to increased trust with people of their own race and decreased trust with people of other races. However, Putnam argues that diversity results in social isolation in general and decreases trust in people of both their own race and of other races. Putnam then suggests that in order to benefit from diversity society must reconstruct their social identity and erase the line between races in order to mutually progress together.

Here Putnam encourages the hyphenated identity of immigrants in order to create something in common with the greater community and to mix into society. I thought this was problematic because the hyphen, in a title such as Chinese-American, creates a hybrid identity instead. This can lead to conflicting feelings for second generation Americans, or the children of immigrants. They are ethnically one identity and can associate with the culture of their parents. Yet they are Americans by birth and learn English and participate in American culture, such as eating pizza and watching American television, as well. They cannot truly be one or the other.

In addition to this, Putnam suggests the reconstruction of identity as “we”. I feel this is a good idea in theory. However, people are always going hesitate when faced with something or someone new. Since immigration will continue to increase diversity in different nations, people are going to continue to feel a separation between those who were already there and those who are the new arrivals. I feel that in order for this sense of “we” to come about, there must be a sense of standing still in a community. People learn to trust those that they have come to known, and only then do the differences that come with ethnicity not matter.

-Wendy Li

Putnam Response

The fact that Putnam responds to the question of immigration with a positive response is refreshing to hear.  Today’s news and talk on the street is only about the negative outcomes of immigration, however I agree with Putnam and the fact that immigration is an asset to a successful and prosperous nation.  Immigration and ethnic diversity has led us to become one of the super powers of the new world.  Immigration supports the increase of funds throughout the city.  Putnam surprised me by telling me the negative connotations of ‘immigration’, for some people may have these feelings of not being able to obtain trustworthiness between the immigrant groups.  ‘The more ethnically diverse the people we live around, the less we trust them.’  This sentence really caught me off guard.  From my point of view, New York City is one of the most diverse places throughout the world, and I don’t see myself distrusting people I am around.  I think it is similar to anywhere else, we have to be cautious, but we do have the ability to walk down the street and not constantly be worrying that anyone else on the street will attack you.  There seems to be a lower confidence in the local government, leaders and news, lower political efficacy and lower frequency of registered voters.  According to recent disastrous events, such as Hurricane Sandy, the local government has helped its constituents, however one can argue that more could have been one throughout the boroughs of New York City.  However as seen with the election of President Obama for his second term shows the increased registration of voters in diverse areas, as well as faith in ones local government.

As discussed throughout the other readings, Putnam discusses the homogeneity of the ethnic groups within a city of large amounts of immigrants.  Examples of this include the Chinatowns within New York City, for example in Manhattan, and Brooklyn and other various boroughs of New York.

Putnam: Immigration, Diversity, and Trust

Putnam clearly demonstrates both the short-term and long-term effects of immigration in relation to several broad factors: public health, trust, economic well-being, and perceptions of quality of life.  Putnam frames E Pluribus Unu in the context of the global phenomenon of ethnic diversification.  Almost every country in the world is experiencing an increase in the diversity of its populace.  Much of this is spurred by an increase in immigration made possible by more accepting cultures, and the advent of quicker and cheaper modes of long distance transportation.  Putnam recognizes that immigration does not always necessarily mean increased diversity, but he asserts that they are closely correlated in most cases.

By referencing multiple studies, Putnam provides a plethora of evidence suggesting that the initial effects of immigration and diversification within a community are not positive. Residents in diverse areas are less likely to take part in local politics, trust neighbors or the local news, participate in volunteering efforts, give to charity, have a large group of friends, and have a good perception of their quality of life.  Putnam argues that residents in such communities tend to “close” themselves to the outside world and spend more times in doors, alone, and watching television.  This reaction to  diversification can be traced throughout history to a very common psychological concept; Those who have a great deal of interaction with “outsiders”, are more likely to trust them.  For example, when the American Army was segregated, soldiers who had spent time living and working alongside black soldiers were more open to the idea of military integration than those who had not.  This has important implications for contemporary society.  Modern public schools try to place an emphasis on maintaining racially and socio-economically diverse student bodies.  This has been shown to encourage in class learning and awareness and respect of other cultures.

Such findings are certainly salient political issues in American society.  Competitive universities, both public and private, are known for “sculpting their classes” to be as diverse as possible.  Although they are not allowed to have a “race quota”, they are currently allowed to use race as one deciding factor in college admissions.  This concept has been challenged in the judicial system and a case pertaining to this method of college selection is currently being tried in the Supreme Court. Putnam would most likely keep the process as it currently stands.  He states that, “In the long run immigration and diversity are likely to have important cultural, economic, fiscal, and developmental benefits”.  Although there are certainly considerable growing-pains, the lasting effects of immigration and diversity in all areas of society, greatly outweigh the initial problems they cause.

-Victor Rerick

Putnam Response

Putnam makes it clear that he finds immigration and ethnic diversity to be very beneficial in the long run, even though they may inhibit the growth in amount of so-called “social capital”. Putnam’s quote from a 2003 piece by Alba and Nee provides a good definition of the concept. “’When social distance is small, there is a feeling of common identity, closeness, and shared experiences. But when social distance is great, people perceive and treat the other as belonging to a different category’” (159). When a high amount of social capital exists, there is trust between neighbors, and many members of the community know each other, thus forming a social network. As an example of the value of social capital, Putnam mentions that there are studies which show that labor markets are all about networks, with most people getting jobs, either directly or indirectly, through an acquaintance, a friend, a family member. This claim was further supported by “Moving On: Chinese Garment Workers after 9/11”, in which we saw that because the majority of Chinese garment factory workers didn’t know too many people, or, in other words, lacked networks, when they lost their garment factory jobs upon the closing of factories in Chinatown, they couldn’t find new jobs.

Putnam also makes a key distinction that can’t go without mentioning. He explains that immigration and diversity are not one and the same, a concept that can be easily overlooked. In the U.S., there is much diversity as there are people living here whose ancestors came from Europe, Africa, Asia, Australia, virtually every corner of the world. However, this doesn’t necessarily mean that immigration rates are currently high in the United States. Many African-American families have been here for generations, and members of these families who are living today can’t be considered immigrants. The people who came to the U.S. when England colonized and remained permanently can be considered immigrants, but if you go down their family trees to the generation living now, you can’t consider its members to be immigrants, while they certainly contribute to the diversity of the population. Although the U.S. is a cultural melting pot, there is not one, unifying, American culture. Most people living in the U.S. retain some of the beliefs and traditions that they brought with them from their homelands, making the U.S. an extremely diverse nation, regardless of whether or not immigration is occurring.

Having read this article, I wonder whether or not diversity would severely diminish if immigration was to wholly cease. Without immigration, would a single culture eventually develop? If so, would this development be more rapid in the U.S. than in other diverse nations, since it is such a melting pot?

Response to “E Pluribus Unum”

Right away from the beginning of reading this article’s introductory paragraph it was shocking to see its negative view of diversity. I can honestly say I have never seen a published article express negativity toward diversity like this before, and I actually thought people wouldn’t want to do something like this if they don’t want to appear nationalist or racist. This is an absolutely unique point of view because it seems that in NYC diversity is constantly encouraged.

The trust question was interesting: the article cited evidence that the more different types of people interact with each other, the more okay they are with the idea of racial integration, and yet then it says that the more people are around those different from them, the more they stick to their own and trust the others less. What is really amazing is that the anti-diversity statement is cited from a really large number of researches, this makes it look very convincing. I did notice that most of them are not recent though: only one is from the past decade.
It is difficult for me to understand this concept. If people are more okay with other ethnic groups the more they interact with them, why would those interactions coincide with a lower trust, group cohesion, and satisfaction?

It also didn’t make sense to me that people trust other races more if they are never around them. I’m referring to this quote: “Inter-racial trust is relatively high in homogeneous South Dakota and relatively low in heterogeneous San Francisco or Los Angeles.” I was wondering why would a person decide that they trust somebody until they even meet them? I feel like this is a slightly racist generalization. It seems strange to assume that one trusts an entire race of people because of their race.

Also, a bit later the article pretty much concluded that people who live in diverse communities don’t trust anyone. I never really encountered that point of view while living in NYC and I actually feel that a lack of trust was more prevalent in my completely homogenous hometown (meaning lack of trust toward strangers though, not people one is familiar with). The reasons for a lack of trust there were very solid: after the collapse of the Soviet Union crime skyrocketed and a lot of people were actually looking to trick others out of their money. In NYC, I never felt like people have a lack of trust toward those around them. My hometown also fits other dissatisfactions described, such as the lack of trust in the government and one’s political power, but that is also very logical because everyone knows the government is awful and the politics are corrupt. This is making me think that maybe its not the ethnic diversity that has to do with such sentiments, but the actual government people have there.

Response to “Moving On”

1. As someone who was not in NYC when 9/11 disaster happened, a lot of this information is new things to think about for me. I only knew that the disaster damaged the health of some people and businesses of others due to the 9/11 help ads in the subway. This article made me think about the way these businesses work. I was wondering how come they are losing so much money. It is obvious that the businesses won’t make a profit shortly after the disaster since people won’t be going there to buy things due to lack of train service and other problems, but wouldn’t the stores just close for that time? The only losses I could think of would be losing food if it’s a food business and having to pay rent, but I would think that people have some kind of savings to not go completely bankrupt. I would imagine no one ordered more food to sell shortly after the disaster, so they wouldn’t be losing money there. I am not familiar enough with businesses to realize what exactly was such a source of devastating losses if the business remained closed for maybe a month or so after the disaster. The real issue I see here is the workers who were not able to get to their jobs at factories after the disaster and therefore were not able to get money.

2. I was surprised to hear that lay-offs, though short, are really common in the garment industry and that most women have been laid off in the past and collected unemployment benefits. Unless the garments made are very specific, it is surprising to me that this happens.

3. How come it was more difficult for women to get relief funds? Also, how is it possible that the city did not notice that some areas were hit by the disaster, such as the area south of Canal street? The people who live in NYC must have seen that that area is obviously affected by the disaster and yet the government failed to act on it. I am glad at least that women and children were able to retain their health benefits.

Understanding Diversity

– How can researchers quantify and study ethnocentrism?  Are these studies based on speculation gathered from particular trends and incidents, or are they derived from interviews with people who hold such views?

– Putnam explores the advantages and disadvantages to increasing cultural diversity in particular neighborhoods.  The article suggests that while immigration can benefit a community culturally, fiscally, and developmentally, the bonds between the people in that community become strained as a result of this diversity.  Putnam highlights the lack of altruism and cooperation that are evident with increasing diversity.  I found the conflicting effects of immigration and diversity quite interesting.  While diversity and immigration can enhance creativity, thus stimulating rapid economic growth, the two can also foster social isolation.  I found it interesting that Putnam draws a distinction between diversity and immigration, thereby suggesting that the two are not synonymous.  I was previously unaware of this fact; I always used to believe that increasing diversity was a result of immigration.  He cites the example of black-white diversity in the US, stating that the blacks are not immigrants (they have actually been in the US longer than most whites’ ancestors), but the integration of the two groups leads to ethnic diversity.

– I was interested in the interracial trust study, as it seems to answer one of my questions about understanding ethnocentrism.  The results of this study disprove both the conflict and the contact theories.  The conflict theory suggests that exposure to other cultures allows one to overcome the fear of those that are ‘other’, whereas the conflict theory holds that diversity will foster out-group mistrust and in-group solidarity (this stems from a competition of limited resources).  The interracial trust study revealed that, in more diverse settings, people tend not to trust anyone  – regardless of whether or not the others are coethnics.  Instead, people who live in such communities seem to prefer social isolation and do not prefer community lifestyles.

Response to Klinenberg, 1995 Chicago Heat Wave

1. One of the things that really surprised in this article is the chart that showed the percentages of black population in particular community areas in Chicago. I was shocked to see numbers like 99% and 0%. Living in NYC, seeing such extreme lack of racial mixing is hard to believe because one would never think to see this in a neighborhood here. Most percentages that are not 99 or 0 where above 96. This is a strange distribution of people to someone used to New York.

2. No sociologists were hired to examine the heat wave of 1995 disaster. The government probably didn’t want to bring up the unpleasant social issues because confronting them might be politically upsetting to them. This is yet another situation that smells of a government that could care less for the lives of their people and just want power and control of that city’s resources. Older people died more than the young people during the heat wave, which is to be expected, but once again, the poorer population was the one with higher death rates and yet the research of the problems their economic status caused was not officially researched by the government. Evidence in this article shows that areas with majority black residents were not helped by the city nearly as much as the areas with majority Latino or white residents. This is hardly an accident and is obvious racism, but I wish I could saying something new about it or even feel extremely shocked that it happened. Throughout history, there are groups that are discriminated against by the government and the major issue here is that I bet this hardly even surprises people anymore. The only thing I find hard to imagine and understand is how exactly does such discrimination happen? Do city officials actually sit there and decide to send help to certain places and avoid the others, or leave some places for last? That seems like something that just cannot happen to me and yet the maps of these disaster areas show that something like that must have occurred. That is the real shocking part: the actual details of how this must have went on.

3. “The baseline death rate in Chicago during July is roughly 72 per day.” I was surprised to see such a high number and even more surprised that this is considered a normal thing and not much is done about it. It’s amazing that Chicago is a major city: why would people live there if the summer is so difficult to endure? Reading this convinced me to never even consider living there.

4. As a final comment, I’m not sure why so many people decided to break open the fire hydrants and let the water out from there. It doesn’t seem logical because that water will create insane humidity and will only make the heat worse. The body will then have an even more difficult time trying to cool itself down. Not to mention the stupid and irresponsible behavior of the people that were shooting at the workers who came to close the fire hydrants (and injuring four of them). Chances are, if the city is doing something like that in the middle of a crisis, they are trying to help the people that live there. Even the most apathetic city government will not do a stupid political move of taking a relief source away from people if it really is a relief source. To me, a safer alternative to breaking open the fire hydrants would have been standing under a cold water shower at home and taking turns doing that with other family members. If people were doing that instead, they wouldn’t have had the problem of also losing water in their homes (which honestly seems indescribably awful during such a disaster).

Putnam Response

Putnam states that diversity is a valuable asset to all nations. He also states that Scott Page states that diversity produces much better, faster problem solving. This data is only correlational; it does not mean that diversity actually does produce creativity, or better and faster problem solving. How do we know that the immigrants who won such prestigious awards didn’t just win because they themselves were smart or creative enough to come from their own countries? After all, the immigration to a place like America, or anywhere else, is not random. You would have to have at least some grand sum of money to be able to afford to immigrate. How would we also know that it isn’t because of the experiences the individuals had that caused them to become more creative or intellectual than Americans? I feel like there are too many variables that would affect this to ultimately assume that diversity produced creativity and better as well as faster problem solving.

Putnam’s correlational study was interesting to read. One thing that could’ve supplemented this was the actual survey itself. Surveys can be misleading sometimes, especially the questions asked, and sometimes people who are taking the survey might not take it seriously. Surveys however, can have high reliability but low validity. The results that Putnam has now, would they change in the future? Putnam gave the example of how people marry as a result of having the same religion changed into people marrying regardless of religion. In the future, would race also be the same? Would interracial marriage cause people to identify themselves differently?

Response to “The World in a City”, Berger

From the neighborhoods I know of, those that are not dominated by a couple of ethnicities only exist in Manhattan. I never even heard of the neighborhood of Ditmas Park. An idea that struck me as interesting from the thoughts of the diverse people living in that neighborhood was that of an old lady who said that you can’t learn to be in a democracy if you live in a one-ethnicity neighborhood. And I think that makes sense, because how can one learn to listen to and respect opinions of different people if he is always surrounded by others whose way of living and thinking is just like his own. I never really looked at democracy from this point of view: that it’s not just about everyone having a vote, but it is also about learning to respect the opinions of others who cast those votes, even if they’re different from yours.
The neighborhood itself is still a bit obscure to me since I went to a high school that is mentioned in this book, Midwood High School, and I’m still not aware of a neighborhood near there that is called Ditmas Park. The neighborhood that does sound like the one being described is now called Midwood.

This neighborhood is described as “diversity by accident” because it is surrounded by neighborhoods that are dominated by specific ethnic groups and it is assumed that those people moved into this neighborhood simply as an extension of the surrounding ones. Even if that is true, I still think that this neighborhood shows true diversity because people wouldn’t want to live there unless they appreciated living on blocks that are a mix of very different people, as opposed to even having a neighborhood that seems diverse, but in reality each block is dominated by one group.

The one type of diversity described here that seems unwelcome is the mix of economically polar households. One man was describing how he and his family members were robbed in this neighborhood due to, according to him, an “unpleasant consequences in the mix of rich and poor”. This made me realize the differences between the two diversities that I haven’t compared this way before: while cultural diversity is about sharing ideas and a friendly exchange of cultural aspects, the economic diversity seems to cause anger in those who have less. I think that is primarily because when it comes to culture, people don’t often feel like their culture is inferior to another, so they don’t have a problem exchanging aspects of their culture with others. The problem with economic differences is that people who are poor might feel anger or jealousy toward those who are rich, and friendly mixing would be difficult if those feelings are there. The environment created by such interactions is much more hostile than the friendly environment of cultural exchange that is described by people in the Ditmas Park neighborhood. And this economic evil is later described in this book as bringing about the tensions between ethnicities that would not have existed otherwise.

Chinatowns Through and Through

The term ghetto gets many negative connotations in todays language, however the ghettoization of a neighborhood is just the place in which minorities live together mainly due to societal and economic pressures.  Areas in large cities have turned into ghettos throughout the years, especially during times of large amounts of immigration.  The Chinese in particular create one of the most popular sections of many cities, including New York City and Los Angeles.  These Chinatowns while made of people of the same origin are very different.

One important fact for each of the Chinatowns, is that as time goes on, and with the increase in sophistication of the technology, the communities are linked more to their cultures and the rest of the world and city.  I initially believed that as time goes on the communities would become less and less like their initial roots, but with the upcoming and recent technology this is understandable.  Within my own family this is true, my Nonna who lives in Astoria, Queens, is able to talk to her sisters who are living in South Africa and Trieste, Italy.

It also surprised me that the communities in both cities are becoming more ethnically diverse.  When visiting Chinatown in Manhattan, it is easy to tell that is a Chinese neighborhood, however, being of non-Asian background, I do not feel out of place.  These neighborhoods are being ‘ethnoburbs,’ multicultural, a neighborhood made of a mixture of various ethnic groups.  Though the neighborhoods within Los Angeles and New York City are different especially in effect of this mixture of ethnic groups, they have many commonalities.  The mixture I believe adds to the notion of “Americanness,” which differs from what those native born to these neighborhoods think.

Putnam Reading-Anissa Daimally

-I found Putnam’s article to be interesting and informative. The main point of this article was that in diverse communities, people trust each other less whether or not they look alike or speak the same language. “In other words, in more diverse settings, Americans distrust not merely people who do not look like them, but even people who do.” He proved this with extensive research, taking into account all variables that could distort the data. Why do people trust their own race less in diverse communities? Does it have to do with social distance and how each people might identify themselves differently?

-Putnam also rejects the idea that immigrants hurt the economy and that they are taking away the jobs of native-born Americans, thus hurting their income.  He states that immigration is actually associated with “more rapid economic growth.” He also includes the results from a recent study which found that native-born Americans’ incomes increase rapidly when they live in communities with more immigrants. I’m not sure how accurate this study is and it should be further looked into with more research.

-Putnam opened my eyes to the fact that “throughout history, immigrants have accounted for three to four times as many of America’s Nobel Laureates, National Academy of Science members, Academy Award film directors and winners of Kennedy Center awards in the performing arts as native-born Americans.” I knew that immigrants would contribute to society, but I never realized the true impact of their work. I was surprised that they contributed more than native-born Americans.

-Putnam mentions in the article: “In advanced countries with aging populations, immigration is important to help offset the impending fiscal effects of the retirement of the baby-boom generation.” This statement reminded me of what Joe Salvo mentioned about immigration and migration and how it is a good thing. Salvo gave an anecdote where people in Chicago are all old because people are migrating out of the city, but no one is migrating in. This can hinder the growth of the city. Thus, immigrants are essential to a city’s growth and prosperity.

 

 

Response to Chin 5-9

1. I love the idea of how rumors spread by workers can devastate a garment shop. I feel this gives some power to the workers to fight for their rights if the factory is not run well. If the owners feel like they can do whatever they want and get away with it, the workers can tell each other and spread the rumor of how no one should go work in that shop since the owners are not paying properly or paying late or something, and soon enough that business will lose a lot of money. People will leave and no new people will come. Take that, evil business!
It is nice to hear that the workers don’t have to be stuck working in an awful place with nothing in their power to change their situation or to get back at that owner somehow.

2. I found it interesting that Korean owners consider skin color to be “the only indicator of African ancestry” and also “the best indicator in making hiring decisions”. It was really surprising to hear that “the best indicator” has nothing to do with a worker’s skill. Also if they say skin color is the “only indicator” of being of a certain ancestry, why would it make a difference which skin color a worker has? Because if it really is the only difference, then their usefulness as a worker should be the same as that of people of other ancestries. I’ll also mention that it’s just racist no matter how you put it.
The owners also don’t want black workers in their shops because “they would be watching everything you do, making sure everything is fair.” So does this mean the owners have no concern with things being fair? I know some things were described that would be considered unfair, like privileging a worker who brought in a friend to the factory, but that probably means that these things really are unfair and should be taken care of. This whole idea of not wanting someone watching who knows whats fair and whats not is a bit disturbing. It has this mean spirit of taking advantage of people of your own ethnicity. An owner also said that he wants to pay workers in cash because it helps those people keep more money by not paying taxes, but what is most likely happening is that the owner himself doesn’t have to pay so much taxes by paying workers cash since all these workers are off the books. I always heard it rumored that these businesses are ruthless, and now as I’m reading all these little details add up into a picture of really unpleasant money-making.

3. I really liked what one of the owners said: “Do you know what the main problem in the U.S. is? It is the Americans who are unwilling to do work like they [Mexicans and Ecuadorians] do at minimum wage. I don’t know many Americans who will work like that.They never come here looking for jobs, and they just complain that they have no jobs. Give some more respect to people like [Mexicans and Ecuadorians].” I always felt like it was cruel irony that people who work the hardest get the least respect. The people that work the hardest are the ones that have to live in worry of deportation and trouble with the government. They are often discriminated against and are paid very little for the work they do. Its a strange trend with a lot of jobs where people who work the most are the ones that get paid the least.

Moving On

What I found interesting about this article was that even before 9/11 hit, the garment factories, especially in Manhattan, were suffering. This seems peculiar since the garment industry is one of the two largest manufacturing industries in the city. However, because of the expensive rent, competition for space and many assumptions regarding the legality of these “sweatshops”, the garment industry had been going downhill in Manhattan a long time before 9/11. Regarding, the legality of the sweatshops, many people still assume that all sweatshops are undocumented immigrants which gives the factories a bad name. In fact, many are unionized factories that employ thousands of legalized women and pay minimum wage. I have to admit that I did think that most of the factories were these horrible sweatshops that hoarded illegal immigrants and paid hardly anything. I would be really interested in seeing one of these unionized factories.

After 9/11 hit, Chinatown was drastically affected. I knew that most businesses were affected by 9/11, however I really never considered how much not only the factories but Chinatown as a whole was affected. Because of the closing of many of these factories, so many Chinese lost their jobs. Not only that, I never expected how much of a ripple effect there was. Not only were the factory workers hit, but it went so far as even people who came to Chinatown from around the city to buy particular items were discouraged because the shops no longer could carry the items they needed.

Emma Park-Hazel

Sewing Women (Ch. 1-4)

It is interesting to see the changes throughout the garment industry as the years go by, laws get passed, and worldwide wars are in affect.  The relationships between the changing times as well as the different laws passed, and the women and men entering and leaving the industry introduces an interesting paradigm.  The reaction of different cultures to different laws allowed for the continuing growth and variety within the garment industry.  Examples of such laws included the outlawing of homeworking, bringing work home to finish instead of doing it in the factory, which was popular among the Jewish, and the start of unionization, not popular among the Italian who were happy being paid less than the minimum set by the unions.

Something that I find interesting throughout this reading, is the fact that all these factory and garment industry workers, are working throughout the United States, and specifically in this study New York City.  This sticks out to me because most of the garment jobs we hear of today are overseas, however with the great number of immigrants throughout New York City and available workers, factory owners did not have to send their designs overseas.  This was especially true for small time designers, for whom oversea shipping and sewing was not worth the inconvenience.

The discussion of the different practices and feelings of the Korean and Chinese factories was eye opening.  In studying Chinatown, it is good to know about the working conditions in these factories.  Knowing how the Chinese factory owners treat their employees as compared to how the Koreans in other parts treat their own separate employees in important information.  The Chinese factory owners develop close relationships between themselves and their workers by the use of a common language and their children.  However these workers are paid piecework rates, and are paid less than Hispanic workers in Korean factories.  The sense of security and closeness developed through the linguistics of the factories is thrown away when the works are not being paid enough.

Heat Wave Throughout the Windy City

What initially surprised and struck me when reading this piece was the sentence “In fact, scientific studies show that the differences in the mortality rates between the 1995 and earlier heat waves are not natural; that is, they are not attributable to the weather.”  Klineneberg also deemed this the most important sentence, as it is the one of the very few italicized sections in this article.  The fact that this was the worst reaction to a heat wave in Chicago history shows a lot about the intensity of this disaster.  However it seems even more horrible when Mayor Daley decided not to include sociologists into the group that would dissect the different aspects of this disaster.  It is interesting to see how the poor was directly affected by this disaster, as shown when Klinenberg talks about the so called “water war” .  Mainly to poor used fire hydrants and such as a method to deal with the scorching hot days, however the depleting water collections posed a threat to the whole city, and thus a consequence to using water was a fine.  The hardest hit areas, areas with the most deaths, were the poorest neighborhoods, and generally had a substantial percentage of blacks within their populations.  This could have been seen as a coincidence however, blacks have been kept from moving into white neighborhoods with the use of riots and attacks against blacks.

1. Knowing that the government, as well as social groups failed to help people during this terrible time, how would the same disaster be dealt with today?

2. Though we can not help everyone, why did social and community groups not help out their members or neighbors, if help was needed, why was it not given?

Social Explorer

Although I was not able to attend the Social Explorer Talk, I took a look at the NY Times website and was able to gather some information about the demographics of New York City. I think that this website comes in handy when it comes to making a documentary or some sort of demographic overview of a certain area. Although the website wasn’t entirely easy to navigate at first, I got the hang of it pretty quickly and was able to see (most currently) how the recent hurricane affected areas outside of New York City greatly. For example, the website reaffirmed my notions that New Jersey and the rest of the tri-state area had gotten hit quite hard by Sandy. I also believe that this website will be largely useful for us and our groups because they will show us some demographic details of the areas which we are studying.

NY vs. LA

The Chinese Exclusion Act was arguably the biggest influence on the formation of Chinatowns in the 1900s. These “old-timer” Chinese immigrants had a very hard time assimilating and were all but forced form their own organizations and attempt to survive in isolation. When the Chinese Exclusion Act was repealed in 1943, everything began to change. Over the fifty years ending in 2010, the Chinese population in America grew at rapid rates, with almost forty percent of the 3.8 million Chinese Americans having immigrated by that time coming in the 2000s. During these fifty years Chinatowns began to appear in new places, such as Flushing and Sunset Park. The numerous Chinatowns in NYC, both new and old, each attracted specific groups of Chinese immigrants, with certain trends dating back to the 1980s. For example, the Chinese population of Flushing was of higher class than that of Sunset Park, and over the years it appears that many Fujianese have settled in Brooklyn’s Sunset Park, while immigrants from Taiwan have displayed a preference for settling in Queens, many having settled in Flushing. Were there any specific reasons why new Chinatowns formed specifically in Sunset Park, Flushing, Homecrest, etc.? That is, how coincidental were the choices of location? To follow up on that, did specific groups select one location over another as their place of settlement for any particular reasons?

I found it to be rather interesting that several decades before the Flushing’s development as a Chinatown began, Monterey Park in the San Gabriel Valley, just east of Los Angeles, began to develop into a Chinatown along a similar path. The white flight and the movement of Chinese immigrants into the area, through both migration from other parts of the respective cities and immigration to the U.S. from China, combined to yield a rapid growth in Asian population in the two neighborhoods. And yet, the two went on to become the homes of different groups of Asian immigrants, with Monterey Park housing many more Japanese Americans than Flushing, while Flushing is home to many Taiwanese. It also appears that Monterey Park had gotten more support over the years than did Flushing, and the two received funds from different groups. However, the neighborhoods are located on opposite sides of the U.S. It’s very interesting how such a phenomenon could have occurred. Perhaps seeing as Flushing and Monterey Park are both becoming overcrowded microcosms, we can conclude that the groups of Asian immigrants who inhabit the two neighborhoods, as well as other Chinatowns, have core similarities that have been just as influential in the development of the groups’ cultures as have been the numerous smaller differences.

How Exceptional is New York?

Nancy Foner defines multiculturalism as the coexistence of plural cultures or cultural diversity, and discusses the peculiar and unique way in which New York has evolved according to this multiculturalism.  She brings up an interesting point that what happens in New York has the potential to bring on great change throughout the United States of America.  Our one super diverse city put together of thousands and millions of people has the ability to make a change throughout the whole nation, which includes much more people.  This makes sense though because whether or not the immigrants are moving out of New York today, about 10% of all foreign born people throughout the nation have at one point within their lives lived in New York City, and this is not counting people who migrated to New York City from other states.  However, New York is not representative of the whole United States as people are characterized differently in different part throughout the nation.  Non-Hispanic-whites for example are known as ‘white’ in New York, while they are known as Anglo in California.  This brings up an interesting point, that even though New York City maybe the most multicultural city in the nation, it does not sum up our country, it is one sect of it.  New York seems to still hold true the idea of the ‘United States,’ whose streets were said to paved with gold and accepting everyone no matter where they come from.  This is especially true when some compare Los Angeles to NYC, in New York there is more appreciation for foreigners, while in LA there is a cool and put off attitude when it comes to foreigners.  In New York City, even political leaders have reached out to accommodate those foreign born, and parades and festivals, made possible through social service agencies, are held for almost all of the cultural groups.

Putnam Article Response

-The Putnam article was very informative. I didn’t know that immigrant groups typically had higher fertility rates than native-born individuals. This is a very odd yet interesting set of data to keep. However, as a result, ethnic diversity in all countries will increase despite any decreases or halts in new immigration. This made me wonder if this is the case for all immigrant groups, if not which ones? Then, why is this the case, does it has to do with a particular cultural practice of a racial group?

-The section regarding the benefits of immigration beyond the enhancement of national cuisine and culture through diversity was also very telling. Before reading the article I would have never known that creativity in general seems to be enhanced by immigration and diversity. I knew that most creators of advanced technology were foreign born but not that their innovation alone had such a major effect nationwide. Who would have known that throughout history, immigrants have accounted for more than four times as many Nobel Laureates, National Academy of Science members, Academy Award film directors and winners of Kennedy Center awards in the performing arts as compared to Native-born Americans. Yet, in a sense, I know it is very believable due to the fact that people come to the US because of the vast opportunities available and wouldn’t simply be content to just say that they are American citizens.

-I also found it very interesting how a study reported in the article seems to suggest that the income of native-born Americans tend to increase if they live in an area more heavily populated with immigrants. With the way the government is so fast to deport illegal immigrants such a hypothesis seems farthest from the truth. This goes against the common misconception that immigrants in general drain the system.

-When I read the section regarding, “diversity, at least in the short run, seems to bring out the turtle in all of us,” I was reminded of the senior citizens from the article regarding the Chicago Heat wave. In the article the seniors were very detached and remained in their apartments out of fear for their possessions. Thus, I really appreciated how this article’s data correlated to actual accounts already read.

Ashley Haynes

New York v. Los Angeles

In this article, the trends in the formation of ethnic enclaves in New York and Los Angeles were examined. In New York, a second Chinatown emerged as a result of the Taiwanese who were more skilled and educated and began a thriving commercial community in Flushing, Queens. In Sunset Park, as Chinese populations continued to increase, so did the number of ethnic businesses. In Los Angeles, a large number of Taiwanese immigrants brought with them their education and capital for opening businesses. As a result they were able to insert themselves directly into middle-class society. Later on, as more diverse immigrants came into the Monterery Park area, the Taiwanese dispersed to neighboring cities and created more Chinese ethnoburbs.

This article was interesting in its description of the population changes that occurred in the two communities. Flushing experienced a loss of manufacturing jobs and as a result whites moved out of the area leaving many vacancies for the incoming immigrants to take up. In Monterery Park, a 99.9 percent white population gradually decreased to 5 percent as more and more socially mobile immigrants moved in. It is interesting to see how these two areas both developed into a thriving Chinese community but in their owns way and on separate sides of the country.

It was also insightful to see how the two communities progressed in terms of politics. New York, when compared to Los Angeles, seems to have a significantly smaller number of Asians who gained political office. This was surprising because I thought New York was the most diverse, even in terms of politicians, but it was not so.

-Wendy Li

Chapter 5-9 Response

I find that the Chinese factories are reflective of the Chinese culture and values. In Asian culture, community is a vital aspect. It is shown in the instances where multiple Chinese workers help others get a job through networking. In fact, this is how most of the women who worked in the factories got the job. There was another woman who said that she wouldn’t have wanted to work at a factory where she knew no one, because she knew that no one would help her, since no one knew her. This is still evident in today’s society. I was able to get the job I had previously because my friend was working there. She helped me get the job by talking to her boss, and this is similar to what happened back then with the garment workers. It’s interesting to see the differences between how the Chinese had gotten their jobs compared with how the Hispanics got their jobs. There is the sense of individualism in the Korean factories, because everyone is so into their own work. They would help out their friends only minimally, in fear of losing their own jobs. This is the opposite of the sense of community in the Chinese factories. A Hispanic woman who was interviewed said that even though she talked with the other workers, she didn’t have friends. Rather, she didn’t want to make friends because she was afraid that she would lose her job. There is always a distance amongst the workers compared with the Chinese workers.

Spiraling out of that, the concept that because of this intertwining relationships, it is harder for Chinese workers to demand better pay or complain about something. Image is another important aspect of the Asian culture. The typical stereotype “shaming the family” coupled along with Asian parents has to come from somewhere, even if it is exaggerated. For example, the Chinese woman in her fifties said “My sister-in-law helped me find this job…If I want to make more, I have to try harder. She has worked here for a long time, and the owner has always kept a job for her, even in slow times. If I don’t like something, I would rather not complain. I don’t want to complain to my sister-in-law…Good or not so good, I have to take it…I would rather leave and have someone else help me find another job. She can tell the boss that I had to take care of my children.” The woman would rather have to leave the factory instead of complaining about what she dislikes, in fear of what her complaining might do to her sister-in-law. The consequences might be that her sister-in-law would get fired. Even quitting the factory where her sister-in-law got her the job might be viewed negatively because there is still a certain risk in getting a job there for someone else. Having gotten jobs due to social networking can be a double-edged sword. Hispanics on the other hand, don’t have to worry about such a thing. They don’t have anything them binding them down to a job, unlike the Chinese workers. They, instead, can move from factories to factories if the pay isn’t good.

Response to “Moving On”

As if the decline of the garment industry in New York City wasn’t already rapid enough pre-9/11, the attack happened and the garment factories suffered severely. Being located in Manhattan, in Chinatown, literally no more than a mile away from the World Trade Center was always an advantage, and the factories thrived. Those who ordered garments from NYC factories could check on their orders easily because the trip to Chinatown was short and quick, especially when compared to trips to factories in Asia. However, the factories’ location turned out to be their greatest disadvantage come 9/11. Roads were closed south of Canal Street for over a week, trains didn’t run to Canal Street for over a month, increased traffic due to increased security persisted for months, or even years. Garment factory workers couldn’t get to work and phone service in sections of Chinatown was only restored by the end of 2001. In the meantime, outsourcing occurred at rapid rates, and competition for real estate from Internet-based companies drove rent through the roof. Some businesses simply left Manhattan, while others had no choice but close.

Such happenings left garment factory workers jobless, and in some cases, eventually, homeless. Employers willing to hire these former factory workers were nowhere to be found. With little or no knowledge of English, former Chinese factory workers did not meet the requirements for most other jobs. Many of these Chinese women didn’t know anyone who worked in other industries and, hence, couldn’t ask an acquaintance to help with the finding of a new job. Those who had many a time complained about their garment factory jobs came to really regret having done so. All these newly unemployed Chinese immigrants really wanted their jobs back, but few had their wish granted simply because these jobs were unavailable. Garment factories became more competitive as a result of 9/11 and workers are expected to work longer hours. Flexible hours in Chinese factories became a thing of the past. As one female worker said, “I do what the boss wants….Others who can’t keep up with what the boss wants are told to leave.”

 

It was very saddening to read about how hard it was for former Chinese garment factory workers to find new jobs post-9/11. Would it have been easier for these women to find new jobs today?

How differently would Chinatown have been affected by the World Trade Center attack if the disaster had occurred more recently, in 2011 or 2012?

Chapters 1-4 Response

It was rather interesting to see how culturally different the Korean and Chinese factories were. In the Chinese factories, the atmosphere is more relaxed. The workers talked about their children, discussed various things. They could do their work leisurely or really quickly. They could come in whenever they want; there was no exact starting time when they began work, since they didn’t ned to punch in. Even the manager wasn’t there when they began working in the morning. When compared to the Korean factories, there is a striking difference. There is no common background that links the Koreans to their employees, who were Mexican and Ecuadorian. The only common thing that linked them together was their work ethic. Things were much more stricter and on schedule, rather than the lackadaisical events of the Chinese factories. I think it’s really interesting how the Korean employers even had knowledge of the Spanish language so that there is some sort of communication between the two different ethnic groups. Culturally, it makes sense why the Hispanics, who didn’t bring their children with them when they emigrated, would work with the Koreans whereas the Chinese, who did bring their children with them when they emigrated, would work with the Chinese. The Hispanics didn’t need that flexible schedule like the Chinese did, since there was no responsibility waiting for them at home.

It was also interesting to see how the different gender roles played into the factories as a result of cultural differences. Any type of factory job was an improvement for the Mexicans and Ecuadorians, no matter if they were male or female whereas majority of the Chinese workers in the factories were Chinese women, who made up nearly 97% of the working force. It made sense though, that to Chinese women, the factory job was ideal. It had a flexible schedule, and it wasn’t as physically strenuous as a restaurant job that required strength in carrying around plates, food and whatnot. The women who were telling their stories spoke of how they brought in their kids to work, or could just leave work to pick up their kids, later dropping them off at a relative’s place and then going back to work. At any other job, this kind of flexibility doesn’t work. This reminded me of when my mom used to work in a garment factory in Brooklyn when I was in first or second grade. I remember being with a cat in the factory, entertaining myself whenever my mom had to sew clothes. I don’t remember much, but it was a lively atmosphere. They were always chatting while working. Even to this day, years after my mom quit, my mom’s friends would come up to ask me if I remembered them, explaining to me that they had taken care of me while my mom went to work in the factories.

Sewing Women Chapters 5-9

This section of Sewing Women revealed much about the hiring habits, work conditions, and general structure of the workday at both Korean and Chinese garment factories. It was evident that many differences existed, and it seemed that while both Korean and Chinese employers had likeable habits, they were far from likeable, overall. The Chinese hired only Chinese workers because the supply of Chinese who wanted to work exceeded the demand. Workers at Chinese factories often worked with family members and as more of their relatives immigrated to the U.S., they taught them how to sew and use the presses and they end up working in these factories as well. The Chinese got paid based on how much work they did and one worker would work on a whole garment. This allowed for a worker to leave during the workday to pick up her child from school, or run a quick errand.

In Korean factories, however, one was paid by the hour, and one garment was worked on by many workers, each doing his part. This was an assembly line of sorts. Unfortunately, such a structure didn’t allow for workers to have much freedom to leave at different points during the day as the Chinese did. Additionally, because there weren’t nearly as many Koreans available for work in factories as there were Chinese, Korean employers hired workers of other ethnicities. The Mexicans and Ecuadorians they hired worked just as hard as the other workers and, as the Korean factory owner quoted at the beginning of Chapter 5 states, these workers should be given a chance. Nonetheless, Korean employers were still discriminatory in their hiring habits, refusing to give jobs to Puerto Ricans and African Americans because they considered them to be lazy.

Overall, the conditions in both Chinese and Korean factories were unsatisfactory. Although the Chinese factory owners treated their workers better than did the Koreans and the work environment was more relaxed, the meager salaries that garment factory workers were paid should have been higher. Out of respect for those who brought them into these factories and basically enabled them to get these jobs, the Chinese didn’t complain and didn’t ask for higher wages. Why couldn’t the Chinese have asked calmly and nicely for slightly higher wages? How would that have been a betrayal of their loyalty?

Response to Social Explorer

Unfortunately, I was unable to attend the Social Explorer talk because I have Chemistry lab  at that time (Yes, during Dean’s Hours.). However, I looked at the map in the NY Times at various other maps on the Social Explorer website. The website is designed very well, especially when compared to other websites that provide this much data. The user interface is very simple and the presented information is very easy to understand. I also enjoyed the interactivity of the maps. Although the 2010 Census only provides two data sets, Population Density and % Population Change, the 2000 Census was really interesting to mess around with. The numerous sets of data it provides allowed me to learn quite a bit about the demographics of the New York City population and I look forward to using some of the information Social Explorer provides in our neighborhood project.

The only problem I have with Social Explorer is the color schemes on some of the maps. Thankfully, we have the option of changing the color set on every map provided, and I was able to find a satisfactory color scheme for almost every map. Unfortunately, the text on the maps was hard to read because of the bright colors, but it’s nothing a little straining of the eyes can’t handle.

Perhaps I just wasn’t able to find it, but it doesn’t look like Social Explorer allows you to overlay one set of data over another so that the coloration is for joint ranges between the two sets. This would allow for the user to more easily be able to see how two or more sets of data are related. Is there actually a way to do this?

Sewing Women Chapters 1-4

As Chapter 3 explains, emigration patterns are quite various, differing based on both country of origin and the time period. While the Chinese have had the tendency to immigrate to the United States with plans of remaining here permanently, Hispanics’ initial plan was often to make some money and then go back home. I feel genuine sympathy for the Mexican woman who had to leave her eighteen-month-old child in order to be able to provide her daughter with a better life. I couldn’t stand to read how the mother said that she cried for three months after leaving. It’s very unfortunate that Mexican immigrants can’t bring their families over more easily, as can the Chinese. The 1989 massacre of Tiananmen Square, jointly with the Immigration Act of 1965, allows the Chinese to apply for refuge to come to the U.S. legally. These legal immigrants can then apply to bring their families over.

Unfortunately, the Hispanic don’t have this relative luxury as the tiny immigration quota for their home countries hasn’t allowed for enough legal immigrants to accumulate for a large number of families to be brought over. I understand that increasing quotas would lead to more unwanted competition on the job market and for budget housing, such as that provided by the housing projects in NY. However, I believe that there is likely a way to work something out so that more foreigners could immigrate to the U.S. without leaving members of families who have been here for generations, jobless. Perhaps I am biased because I’m an immigrant myself, but is there really no way to accommodate for more Mexicans and other Hispanics coming to the U.S legally? Many make the trek to come here illegally anyway, occupying jobs that we try to deny them by having a low immigrant quota. So what exactly does the quota actually end up achieving besides allowing employers to pay some Mexican immigrants below minimum wage because they are illegals and won’t be able to complain?

NYLA Chinatowns

For nearly a century, the Asian-American immigrants that arrived in America were perceived by many American’s as a threat to society.  The Chinese Exclusion Act, passed in 1882 and not repelled until 1943, demonstrated the tensions that existed between Chinese immigrants,  American citizens, and other immigrant groups.  The government did not want Chinese immigrants to take American jobs (xenophobia also certainly played a role).

The Exclusion Act strictly limited the ability of most Chinese people to immigrate to America, and for several decades the Chinese population living in America consisted of middle-aged working men. This created the concept of divided families that had one spouse living in America (usually the husband),  and the wife and children (especially the girls) living in China.  During this period, and even for several decades after the act was repelled, there was a stereotype of Chinese immigrants as hard working poor outsiders here to “steal” American jobs.  They rarely participated in politics, and were therefore suppressed politically and economically but other groups.

It has only been recently that a new wave of Chinese immigrants is making their mark on American society.  Without the right to become naturalized citizens in the past,  Chinese immigrants were kept out of the political process. Because of this, “Much of the political activity in Chinatowns across the nation was oriented either toward homeland politics or local neighborhood ethnic Chinese interests—such as garbage pickup, parking, and after-school and weekend Chinese language school for children (368)”.  But within the last few decades, Chinese-American’s are becoming naturalized citizens at unprecedented rates.  The new wave of Chinese immigrants is better educated, wealthier, and more politicly active than the generation of immigrants before them.  Many have achieved advanced degrees at American universities and are finding a desire to become more politically active.  Several Chinese-American immigrants have won local elections in New York City over the past decade as the Chinese use their population explosion in New York for political gain.  This trend promises fairer representation of Chinese-Americans in both local and national politics, and a better quality of life for Chinese immigrants of both today and the future.

-Victor Rerick

 

 

Response to Chin “Moving On”

The devastating effects of September 11 on women were astounding. The women went from earning $300 a week, to a government given $150 a week after their places of work were shut down. I’d also like to know why it was harder for women to find access relief funds than men. The chain reaction that followed with the garment workers and their homes is unfortunate, especially since they resulted in health concerns due to stress and anxiety.

Another point that I found interesting was that teenage and college aged children had to help their parents pay the bills and mortgages. However, the line that says, “In another, a working age child rented a floor of his house to his parents for only $200 a month” kind of made me think, “huh?” because if my parents were put through a huge loss as a result of such a disaster, I would let them take my master bedroom for free. But maybe that’s just a filipino thing because my mom and my siblings lived with my grandparents for eight years free of charge so that we could save up for five children’s college tuition.

Klinenberg Response

The poor neighborhoods of many major cities across the U.S. receive much funding from the government and various non-profit organizations as part of the collective effort to improve the standard of living of, and provide housing for, the less fortunate, those who barely make enough money to feed their families. However, upon the occurrence of a natural disaster, a blackout, or even a common snowstorm, when immediate government aid is needed most, the poorer neighborhoods appear to be neglected. Why do the more expensive neighborhoods, which tend to house members of a higher socioeconomic class, get priority? Why aren’t the available resources spread out evenly across a city when a disaster occurs?

The first Chicago heat wave that Klinenberg talks about took the lives of way too many people. Part of the blame for this certainly falls on the citizens of Chicago, who failed to do what they were supposed to in order to stay safe, similar to how many New York City families who lived in a Zone A evacuation zone refused to leave their homes during Hurricane Sandy. However, the media was just as much at fault for blowing lesser occurrences out of proportion, leading people to believe that the effects of every impending disaster will be far less serious than expected. When a devastating disaster actually does come, many dismiss it as being “just another Hurricane Irene” or “just another small storm”. This mistake comes out to be costly for many, many Americans every year.

And now we get to the government. The response to the first Chicago heat wave was a disorganized effort that, as previously mentioned, kept the “bad” neighborhoods of Chicago waiting far too long for help to arrive. The location of such neighborhoods, combined with their reputations, made it more difficult for help to be sent. Fear of the violence in these neighborhoods drove emergency services to neglect the needs of the people there. Richard Daley, who was mayor of Chicago when the heat wave happened, deflected the blame, claiming that the victims of the heat wave should have taken better care of themselves. However, the administration’s fear of being held responsible for the adverse happenings led to better preparedness for the second heat wave, which took only two lives. Therefore, the response to the first heat wave really could have been better planned and made more effective, since the local government was capable of doing it right the second time around.

Why do city and state governments make the same mistake that members of the general population make in believing that an upcoming natural disaster is being blown out of proportion? Why isn’t the level of preparation based solely on the facts with which the administration is presented? When a disaster is impending, the government should prepare for the worst case scenario.

Response to “How Exceptional is New York?”

1. How does Foner know so precisely how many Hispanics identify themselves as black in the census? I thought the census was the source for demographics in the city.

2. What “official multicultural policies” did Canada adopt that the United States did not?

3. I like that this article brought up how even though New York is known for its diversity, it is still “not an island” and is therefore influenced by United States as a whole. It made me realize how even though that must be true, especially since New York has to obey federal laws, I still feel like it is hard to define New York based on observations of the rest of the United States since New Yorkers develop their own views on race and culture by seeing the city around them. Even Los Angeles has a different experience with immigration than New York, so it would be hard for the rest of the United States to change NY’s mind on something related to cultural diversity. The daily experience of New Yorkers with cultures and immigration is what will mostly define their opinions, so even though New York is “not an island”, I think it has too much firsthand experience to be influenced by those who don’t.

Sewing Women Chapters 5-9

After my re-reading my first post regarding Sewing Women, I feel that I focused to much on the benefits of working in the Chinese factories.  Sewing Women makes it clear that despite the family-friendly atmosphere present in the Chinese factories, many workers were exploited by the system.  The benefits of working in the Chinese factories as opposed to the Korean factories were very evident.  The Chinese laborers were working with family members that shared a culture, history, and language.  They also often lived with their own families and were given time to be part of the family-unit.  They were usually unionized, and had more rights as workers.  They could work at home, and could work extra to be payed more.

Given these factors, it would appear that working in a Chinese factory was vastly superior to working in the Korean-owned factories.  Yet, the close relations between workers in the Chinese factories gave rise to numerous problems for employees.  Out of respect for the factory owners, who were of the same cultural heritage and possibly even family members, female workers were unlikely to demand better pay or working conditions.  The Chinese women were expected to train new employees (potential workers in Korean factories would usually not be hired if they were untrained) and they were also expected to find new employees by recommending the factory to family members.  Workers would also be held informally responsible for the performance of the workers that they recommend to their employers.  As part of a union and complex social structure it was also less likely for a Chinese worker to move from factory to factory than it was for a Dominican immigrant working in the Korean factory system.  In many ways, the situation of hispanic workers was actually preferable to that of the Chinese, at least in the sense that they were afforded more freedom in which factory they wanted to work.

-Victor Rerick

Sewing Women Chapters 1-4

Apart from producing clothing, the garment workers that toiled in Korean and Chinese factories throughout the 20th century had little in common.  Distinct ideologies highlighted a cultural divide in the immigrant experience of the Chinese, Korean, and Hispanic laborers that immigrated to America in hope of securing a job in the garment industry.

1.  In Chinese factories, finding a job as a garment worker was viewed as a “rite of passage” for most young immigrants.  Chinese women, who made up a large percentage of the workforce, often brought their families with them to America.  Their husbands often worked in the restaurant industry.  In addition to producing garments, these women also had to care for their children and run family errands.  Since the Chinese garment factories almost exclusively employed Chinese workers, the owners crafted a production model that reflected the cultural and practical needs of the Chinese women.  The workers were payed for each piece they produced, and were allowed to work at home in order to make extra money.  Their working hours were relatively lenient, allowing them to attend to the various other roles they served in their family unit including wife, mother, and financial provider.  Since they worked in all-Chinese factories, these women had little reason to assimilate to American culture and   many did not have a need to learn English.  Decades later, when the garment industry in Chinatown experienced a rapid economic downturn following 9/11, this approach proved problematic for the garment workers.  They had a limited skill set as they had always worked in one industry, few contacts in other fields, and most could not even speak English.

2.  Th Korean-run factories model of employment could not have been more different. In Korean factories, workers were viewed as part of the assembly line rather than part of the family unit.  Workers were not allowed to take work home, and they were payed hourly wages rather than by the amount of garments they produced.  The Koreans hired workers from a plethora of backgrounds including Mexicans and Ecaudorians.  These immigrants were often illegal male laborers.  Unlike the Chinese workers, they were not members of unions and were payed in cash rather than by check. Finding work was difficult for these immigrants as they lacked the “family connection” that allowed so many Chinese workers to find a job in the garment industry.  They were hired for their skill, not their connections, and were viewed in the workplace as more of a machine than a human being.  Production, not the protection of cultural identity, was the ultimate goal in these factories.

-Victor Rerick

Moving On Response

This article was interesting in that it detailed the decline of the garment industry to even before the events of September 11. The fall of the World Trade Centers only accelerated the process. The outsourcing of labor, spreading of new firms and the image of illegal sweatshops and immigrants contributed to the industry’s early decline. This raises the question: if September 11 did not happen, how long would the garment industry have continued to decline and to what extent?

In addition to this, it was nice to see the effects of the attack from a different perspective. The media portrayed the effect of September 11 on a national scale, while neighborhoods like Chinatown and the garment industry were affected in ways I did not expect. For example, I did not know the disaster zone was divided to only include the south of Canal Street This article was also intriguing because my mother mirrored the trends of some Chinese workers in the industry, and it was interesting to understand the story behind those trends. Like others, she worked in a garment shop when she first immigrated to the United States and took classes to learn English. Later she made the transition to home health care after moving to Staten Island.

-Wendy Li

Moving On

The use of the words ‘mobility trap’ to describe Chinatown was interesting. From that perspective, I agree with Peter Kwong. How many immigrants have actually succeeded in getting to the top, from being a garment worker? The ones who are actually moving forward economically would be the factory owners, or anyone of that sort. I agree with Victor Nee and Jimy Sanders that it is the entrepreneurs that are moving up on the social ladder, not the workers. The garment workers probably didn’t view themselves as being trapped because it was comfortable where they were – that is, before September 11. Before September 11th, they could come into work whenever they wanted. There weren’t set schedules and they got paid piece by piece. This was probably the only work they’ve known and wouldn’t think of anything else. If they had been shown what it would be like to work at a job with the knowledge of English, their views on being “trapped” might have been different. This is probably an exaggeration, but it reminded me of the George Orwell’s book, 1984.

I found it interesting how there was a clear impact of the garment workers losing their jobs on the businesses of Chinatown. It shows that everything really is connected; because income wasn’t being made, money wasn’t being spent. There is no more flow of money, and as a result, the businesses of Chinatown would have to eventually shut down because they weren’t getting any revenue from their customers.

There is a huge emphasis on women in the context of the family. Although this is about garment workers, who are usually women, what about the men? Where do they work while the women at in the garment factories? Were they affected the same way, if they worked in Chinatown?

NYLA

What I found interesting was that while the Chinatown community was essentially isolated and confined because of the government’s laws, and this made the community of Chinatown more united. As a result of the confinement, the “old-timers created their own means of survival via ethnic economies and organizations in order to avoid direct competition with native workers while also keeping alive their sojourner’s dream that one day they would return to China with gold and glory” and “such segregated living reinforced their ethnic difference and unassimilability.” As a result of this, the “old-timers” are less likely (even nowadays) to assimilate into American society. Even after all these years, you can still see how closed off the older generation in Chinatown is compared with the younger generation of Chinatown. I still see it all the time, within my own family, when my parent’s friends tell me to “stop being so American”.

The article also talked about the development of Chinese schools that weren’t competing with public schools, but instead supplemented the education. This is relevant even today – if you walk through an Asian neighborhood, there are bound to be at least five different educational institutions for any kind of standardized testing. I, myself, have been to at least 3 different ones. During my years of going there, majority of the kids were Asian. I work at one of these institutions now, and while majority of the kids still are Asian, there are definitely more kids who are not Asian present. This was something I hadn’t seen before, back around five years ago.

Klinenberg Response

There was definitely a lack of organization between the different departments. The fact that  public agencies even rejected volunteers is baffling, but understandable in the sense that if  the agencies themselves didn’t know what they were doing, what would they tell the volunteers to do? The Mayor’s role in pushing the blame away from himself and onto the people is disturbing. He basically refused to acknowledge the fact that the government was at fault and instead says that the “residents themselves must take responsibility for securing their own welfare and keeping themselves out of hospitals and other places that provide public assistance”. Klinenberg also states that the idea was so that “the best way to protect the poor is to force them to protect themselves”. How are the poor even supposed to protect themselves in this case of a huge heat wave? All the reasonings just seem like excuses because there was no overall plan to combat the heat wave. On another note, the fact that the “government alone cannot do it all” is true to some extent. How can you help people if they don’t want to be helped? Although they’re slightly different, the elderly who didn’t want to leave their house reminded me of my friend’s grandma who refused to leave her home in both the hurricanes of this year and last year. During Hurricane Irene and Hurricane Sandy, my friend’s home was in Zone A, but her grandmother refused to leave, and as a result my friend stayed with her. Most of the blame usually gets placed on one main person or a group of people. In this case, because of the way the media portrayed the disaster, the blame was mostly put on the government. However, there is always two sides to the coin, and not all the blame should be put on the government. The second time the heave wave hit, the government were more prepared. This time, the mayor didn’t keep his stance on how the people should protect themselves; there were actual plans. I feel this is the same for what happened in New York with the huge blizzard that hit. The first time it hit, MTA was unprepared. Roads were blocked by snow, trains weren’t running, buses weren’t running and so on. The response to the blizzard was slow as well; I remember having to walk to another train station because the one near my house was blocked off as a result of the snow. Although this isn’t really on par with the Chicago heat wave, it shows how a change in the response plans the second time the blizzard hit New York City, a year after.

Response to the NYLA article

The NYLA examines the differences in dynamics over the years of the Chinese communities both in New York city and Los Angeles.

– In New York City, the Downtown Manhattan Chinatown used to be the main center of Chinese immigrants, the heart of their community. These old-time immigrants’ societies used to be extremely closed and culture-focused. This was a consequence to the Chinese Exclusion Acts and the many difficulties that the Chinese immigrants were faced with that forced them to alienate from the rest of the American society. As many changes to the city came about in the years, such as 9/11, the development of a strong real estate market and increase in the number of Chinese immigrants themselves, the way these Asian communities were structured change drastically. People started moving to Flushing, Queens and Sunset Park, Brooklyn.  The new wave of immigrants were young, skilled workers who were more willing to interlace with the American society and uniform. The Chinese community grew stronger, politically active and socially involved with the whole neighborhood as a whole rather than just with their co-ethnics. Instead of just family-owned small businesses, the new Chinese communities are dynamic, modern and globally linked.

– As a parallelism, in Los Angeles something similar happened. Monterey Park went from a small, quiet, mostly white community, to a 24-hour active, Chinese neighborhood. As the prices of homes became more affordable and these immigrants started moving into this area, they shaped the community according to factors that include their skills, interests and the economy. Just like New York, skilled workers with college degrees was the main characterization of the new wave of immigrants, allowing for more entrepreneurship, opening businesses and building huge residential complexes that modernized and refaced the community completely. Just like in Flushing and Sunset Park, the Chinese population living in the Monterey Park became more politically and socially active, motivated by the ease the government gave them in becoming permanent residents, which allowed them to be extremely politically successful and interactive with the neighborhood community in a very productive way.

Sara Camnasio

Response to Social Explorer

I really enjoyed the Social Explorer website and the features it offered. Demographics are of interest to me so I explored the website on my own after the presentation and found confirmation to some things I suspected about my own neighborhood and discovered interesting things about some others. I thought it was really great and almost unbelievable that a tool like that was created since I can only image what an insane amount of work people had to go through to collect all that data that is mostly on paper and putting it together into a website and keeping it so neatly organized. The website’s interface and layout make it easy to use and the map saving options are useful. It is well thought out. I’m just amazed because I heard from some people who work at NYC jobs (like public hospitals) that anything government-run is very slow and the systems are still not modernized and most things are on paper and not in computers. It is messy: these papers with important documents are just all in boxes and in basements of government offices and that finding something and putting information together can be a challenge. They are sorted in some way of course, but that there are mistakes and when a mistake is made and something is misplaced, finding that paper can be a challenge. I’m very grateful for the Social Explorer tool that makes this valuable data easily accessible.

Response to Chin 1-4

1. The stories of women in the book invoked a lot of sympathy in me. The life of immigrant women, especially Hispanic, that had to leave their children so they could come to NYC and work sound really difficult. Kind of strange thinking about how it seems normal today that the economic conditions in a lot of places are so bad that people feel they have no other choice but to move countries and leave everything behind in order to make money. I know a woman who hasn’t seen her daughter in eight years because that mother works here in NY. All the stories like that, with just the separation aspect of immigrant life, make immigration seem impossibly frightening and difficult.

2. I was surprised to hear how women in garment shops described their work as generally less strenuous than other types of jobs, such as waitress, that for some reason seem less strenuous an average person (I would think). Garment factories actually invoke an image of much more difficult work and longer hours than working in a restaurant does. Though I was glad to hear a Latino man  saying how it is easy for undocumented workers to find jobs. I sometimes wonder how does one go about doing that since it may be frightening that you will get reported to the authorities by the people you are asking for a job from, etc. It must be difficult to trust people and yet I’m glad that at least it is possible to change jobs if the pay is not good or the work is too much.

One question I had was how come women were not allowed to take their work home.

Joe Salvo Talk Response

1. Joe Salvo talked about how diverse NYC is and how unique it is that we have all different kinds of people living here, and I felt like it was ironic that he was showing different neighborhoods that were essentially clusters of the same kinds of people, just like different countries in the world. I felt like it made NYC seem diverse overall, but still most people live surrounded by their own culture. The diversity is encountered throughout the city when one travels and yet some neighborhoods are dominated by a certain group. It all has a feeling of one still preferring to live with their own people since a lot of them end up going home to that.

2. I was surprised to see how many people actually leave NYC every year and go live somewhere else in the United States because I don’t think I’ve ever heard of someone I know doing that. I know a lot of immigrants and they mostly either stay here or go to their own countries. NYC is unique in being used to and accepting to immigrants but I’m not sure how one would feel living in a less diverse place where almost everyone is born in the US. I’m relatively a recent immigrant too and sometimes I wonder if it would be as comfortable living in a less diverse city as it is in NY. I have a feeling there would be people that would kind of “always remember” that I’m an immigrant, if you know what I mean. I feel like there would be people that would treat me differently, which is not really something that is too prominent in NYC.

3. Just want to comment on how even Joe Salvo admitted that the Census isn’t so reliable since many people who are here illegally don’t fill them out. Knowing that made me wonder how many people actually live in NYC. I wonder how the percentages of different groups living in NYC would change if every person was counted. Also, regardless of how I thought it is ironic that some people live in neighborhoods filled with others of their culture, I still realize how NYC is incredibly diverse and I appreciate that uniqueness. I even heard somewhere that there is at least one person from every country in the world living in NYC. This diversity is quite important in making a society more accepting and understanding of others, since people realize that not everyone in the world thinks the way they do or do things the way they do.

Ethnoburb

One thing I found interesting in “The Transformation of Chinese American Communities,” other than the word “ethnoburb,” was the description of San Gabriel’s Chinese ethnoburb. It was described as quite large, yet the community was still able to develop and be close because of social organizations as well as businesses. I feel like this is also quite evident in Chinatown here in Manhattan, especially from what we’ve heard of its earlier history: everyone knew each other, and they all visited the same places in order to be social with one another. Another thing that I found to be interesting was the article’s discussion of the language and cultural barriers within the Chinese immigrants – those from different provinces in China, Hong Kong, or Taiwan; those who spoke Mandarin, Cantonese, or their own province’s dialect. It is definitely something that, even today, people who don’t know the culture or the language very well wash over – believing everyone in China to be one and the same. Many times I have been asked if I understand Cantonese, when I am learning Mandarin and haven’t been able to understand Cantonese since I was a child.

Surprise Statistics

“Moving On” discusses the effect that September 11th had on the garment industry in Chinatown. One question that I had after reading was simply how have things changed since 2005? A second thought that I had was my surprise at the statistics on the garment industry. “Despite extensive job losses over the last two decades, apparel is one of the two largest manufacturing industries in the city, with annual revenues of $11 billion and 56,600 employees before 9/11” (185). I was surprised to learn that the garment industry is New York City’s “fourth largest export sector,” simply because there seem to me to be other industries that are more prominent in the city (185).

Response to “Sewing Women”

In the second half of her book, Prof Chin goes further into describing the differences between Korean and Chinese shops. These chapters focus more on the ethnical choices the owners of these shops make when hiring the workers and how the hiring process works.

As an overall impression, I got a stronger and stronger feeling that Chinese sweatshops are “socially warmer”, in the sense that it could even feel like family to work there. In fact, as I noticed at the MOCA, the Chinese culture values the community and the social aspect of their lives a lot, so the structures of the shops reflect this philosophy. Many of the testimonies in the book cite Chinese workers and owners saying that they do favors to each other and “help each other”, for example bringing in a family member and training them in natural exchange of smaller pieces of garment, which equal more work done and more money.

On the other hand, Korean shops are way colder in that sense, they actually do feel like a workplace. Because it is more structured and controlled, there is not much room for favors and family feelings: exact clocking in and out times must be met because the Koreans know they need to meet the standards of the various government agencies coming in to check on them. The fact that they also hire Hispanics from different ethnical backgrounds rather than Koreans, further detaches the workers from a feeling of togetherness. Some of these Hispanics interviewed admit that they are emotionally detached from their job and they take it as simply a way to go in, make money and then leave.

A similarity between the two types of shops, however, is that they are both very closed systems, especially in the way new workers are found. While the Chinese shops favor family and friends referrals from the workers, the Koreans are very picky in who they hire, and things like “the corner’ become places where Hispanics find out about these jobs in the market.

I also thought it was very interesting how there was an underlining factor of racism and stereotypes towards the African Americans and Puerto Ricans, seen as lazy and not capable of serious commitment. After all, all these groups are immigrant groups, could a few generations of difference or even just a little more naturalization benefits really set such a huge gap between ethnic groups?

Sara Camnasio

Transforming Communities

– The article draws attention to the cultural differences and language barriers (for example, Cantonese vs. Mandarin) that exist among the Chinese immigrants who originate from Taiwan, China, and Hong Kong.  It is interesting to note that the Chinese Exclusion Act generalized the group as a whole in barring their migration, completely overlooking the fact that these differences even exist.

– It is interesting to note that Chinese outmigration can be likened to white flight.  The article draws upon the opinion of those who fled Monterey Park because they felt it was becoming overcrowded and unsafe (380).  This migration can be attributed to the growing class diversity that exists because established immigrants sponsor their relatives that may not be so wealthy.  These relatives are generally working class and do not possess English language proficiency.   Within this coethnic group, the more well-to-do seek to disassociate themselves with the stereotype of being “immigrant and poor” (380).  The presence of this phenomenon among the Chinese immigrant community suggests that the multifaceted attitudes towards others of different socioeconomic backgrounds transcends issues of race.

– It is interesting to note the similarities and differences that exist between the traditional Chinatowns and areas such as Monterey Park, Sunset Park, and Flushing.  Both areas of settlement provide workers with employment opportunities; however, the traditional Chinatowns are not quite as globally linked – economically, culturally, and socially – to the outside world.  Chinatowns are ethnic enclaves that seem to be more self-contained.

– In the increasing trend among Chinese generations to become “American”, what elements of their Chinese culture do they shed?  What elements do they retain?

Joe Salvo Response

Questions:

1.  How can you check the validity of data that is based off of a form that people fill out in a subjective state of mind, when what they may classify themselves as the government may have a different opinion?

2.  Is a person’s ethnicity based on their heritage or the color of their skin?

I would never want Joe Slavo’s job.  I like to think of myself as a scientist and as such I rely on data that has been proven through exact experimentation.  I would never be able to do a job where I don’t feel that the data I’m working with is very accurate (like the census).  I think it is amazing that Mr. Salvo is able to work with such uncertainties so effectively.

Social Explorer Response

I was unable to attend the Social Explorer talk with Sydney Beveridge, but I did look at the maps provided on the NYTimes website. Because most of the news coverage that we viewed here in New York obviously covered dominantly New York, I guess I failed to realize that Hurricane Sandy affected many more areas than just the five boroughs. The maps helped me realize the widespread affect of the hurricane across the east coast. Being able to see the red (key: destroyed) areas of the map in places such as Bridgeport, Conneticut and areas of New Jersey was helpful in aiding my understanding of the mass effects of the hurricane outside of New York.

Klinenberg Response

1. Klinenberg states in his article, “Denaturalizing Disaster,” that the elderly refused to leave their homes even after contacted by neighbors or service industries to do so. He makes the observation that “those most at risk may be least likely to want or accept help from government.” In this specific case, it is not an issue of government awareness, but an issue of the people at risk. Even during Hurricane Sandy here in New York, I have friends whose parents refused to evacuate their homes during the hurricane. They would rather hope for the best than leave all they’ve known behind to live outside of their privacy and in safety.

2. I also found it interesting how the effect of the disaster on the public relied heavily on how the media portrayed the disaster in terms of the amount of government involvement. If they proclaimed it was simply a natural disaster that could not be prevented, and focused heavily on the uncontrollable aspects, then the mayor would be off the hook and an innocent man. But the second they bring in government involvement, or lack of government involvement, officials feel the need to defend themselves in fear of becoming the bad guy.

 

Response to Foner

What really stood out to me in the Foner reading is the clear indication that even when compared to other cities that house many immigrants, such as Los Angeles, Miami, which has taken in many Cubans over the years, and a number of cities in Texas and California, which continue to see an influx of Mexican immigrants, New York stands out. Not only has New York been the center of immigration to the U.S., a title which is arguably still holds, but New York’s immigrant population has allowed for a fusion of culture incomparable to any other. The “creative multiculturalism” that Foner says exists in New York is made possible my large city institutions, like the CUNY, in which the children of immigrants from countries all over the world interact daily, learning about each other’s heritage. Within this diversity, one often encounters an aspect of someone else’s culture that influences one to do something differently, whether it is to go the extra mile, or sleep the extra hour. As Foner explains, this mixing of culture gives rise to new forms of popular culture and, as I interpret it, adds a whole new dimension of possibility and opportunity that only New York can offer. I wonder how drastically an analysis of the immigration trends in New York in recent years would change Foner’s interpretation because much has changed over the past few years. How exceptional is New York in 2013 as compared to 2005 or 1997? Is it still exceptional? It certainly is. Is it as phenomenally different from the rest of the metaphorical pack? Perhaps it is, but in a very different way.

 

Having read Foner’s piece, I can’t help but ask, can there be a definition of “American” that can be agreed upon by at least a slim majority of the U.S? Additionally, can one define the term “New Yorker”?

Joe Salvo Response

1. How do the aesthetics of different neighborhoods and their geographical positions relative to the rest of New York and the surrounding waters influence the tendency of certain communities to slowly dissolve in one area and form again somewhere else?

2. It appears that although the majority of the population in a neighborhood may belong to a specific ethnic group, the constant movement of people in and out of New York, and in and out of certain neighborhoods, seems to never fuse neighborhoods that house many people of the same ethnicity. That is, various ethnic groups remain spread out. Has this phenomenon been explained beyond saying that it’s just the natural tendency? If so, how?

 

Joe Salvo’s talk was certainly interesting in that it revealed certain trends of migration in the NYC population that I did not at all expect. It appears that Chinatown is becoming more ethnically diverse and Brooklyn’s Avenue U area and even some parts of Coney Island are becoming neighborhoods that house more Southeast Asians than prior. I have personally witnessed this shift as I live, and have lived for most of my life, just a few blocks from Avenue U. My neighborhood, Midwood, has become less of a white/Jewish neighborhood and has evolved into a more diverse area. Avenue U has come to be the home of many more Southeast Asian people than prior, but what I find to be very interesting is that there are several blocks between Ocean Avenue and Ocean Parkway, along Avenue U, that just refuse to change. These blocks are mainly white mini-neighborhoods that will surely contribute even more to the melting pot that defines New York City.

“Moving On”- Chin Response

This article addressed the economic impact of September 11th on Chinatown, specifically how the garment industry played a part in the economic decline following the tragedy. I found it interesting just how integral the Chinese garment industry is to Chinatown both as a source of income and a source of the labor force. Because much of the area was closed down, or was under restriction for weeks or even months after the incident workers were unable to go to work, owners were unable to re-open their shops, and because orders could not be taken or delivered those few months out of business had a huge impact on the area. Not only did the loss in revenue from tourism cause Chinatown to suffer economically, but also the ensuing and lasting unemployment from the temporary failure of the Chinese garment industry put a strain on the recovery and well being of the people living in the area. I was surprised as to the numerical values of the amount of jobs and factories within Chinatown. Never had I pictured that such a small area could be so intrinsically important to so many people.

“Sewing Women”- Chin Part 2 Response

The nuances of “whom to hire” from both the perspective of the Chinese and the Korean factory owners are thought provoking. For instance, I thought the theories behind immigrant incorporation and their manifestation in the respective hiring preferences was especially interesting. Consider the idea of “opportunity hoarding;” it states, “ethnic groups with access to an economic niche may…be hoarding opportunities” within that niche (92). This might apply to the Chinese garment factories in that Chinese owners typically hired ethnic Chinese as workers, thus consolidating the industry ethnically and closing off those potential jobs to workers of other races and nationalities. It is suggested that because the Chinese ethnic group had enough members willing to work in this industry, this method of hiring was upheld. By contrast Korean garment factory owners hired Ecuadorian and Mexican workers because Korean employees were too few and too expensive to hire. Korean owners preferred immigrants to Americans and skilled workers who did not speak English. Sadly, this is “mostly because Americans and immigrants who know English are more capable of standing up for their rights.” This is not to say that exploitation did not happen in Chinese factories. For instance: “Owners know that Chinese immigrants and undocumented Mexicans and Ecuadorians have limited options and limited ability to complain to authorities. Employers can take advantage of these workers. In general, the employers offer the minimum or just above the minimum wage and only the benefits that the state and federal law require.” (93) This just shows that the garment industry ran in tandem to other factory work throughout history, workers were paid very little and were taken advantage of (at least to some extent) for profit. The fact that most owners, both Chinese and Korean were fluent in English and had a somewhat greater level of education only serves to uphold the traditional hierarchy where the ignorant and the disadvantaged are kept on the bottom rung.

“Sewing Women”-Chin Part 1 Response

The introduction to general changes in demographics, historically in the area helped me better understand the scope and significance of the Chinese garment worker to the Chinese immigrant society/neighborhood. As I understand it, both the Korean-owned garment factories and the Chinese-owned garment factories managed to make products and sustain growth within the industry despite the decline in large-scale factory work. The cultural differences inherent in the layout of the factory-floor were particularly interesting to me. The more laid-back and comfortable environment in the Chinese-owned garment factories, as well as the “by piece” payment method appears to have been as profitable historically as the Korean-owned garment factories with their assembly-line method of working on clothes. However the close-knit community and the social interaction found on the Chinese factory floor was not necessarily present on its Korean counterpart. The former appears to be more worker-friendly as well, so what specifically causes these disparities between the two types of garment factories? Also, was unionization really that important to the Chinese women who saw the union as merely a source of insurance benefits? Did a lack of understanding of the purpose of the union prevent the organization from becoming more prominent?

Response to Klinenberg

In discussing the Chicago heat wave, Klinenberg approaches it in a socio-economical and political way, surprisingly hypothesizing that the cause of the many deaths were rather a consequence of the government’s bad management of the city’s infrastructures and the welfare system. One would normally infer that such deaths could have been caused by the unpreparedness of the public for a first-time catastrophe of this kind, or maybe by the hospitals’ inability to deal with such a high volume of individuals coming in in a short period of time. So, this reading brings up a few interesting, non-trivial points that allow for a deeper understanding of the socio-political climate in Chicago at the time.

For example, the fact that certain neighborhoods were so dangerous that people would shut the windows in fear of criminals infiltrating into their households which caused the temperature to get so high in these apartments that the elderly citizens would suffocate inside. Here Klinenberg was criticizing the inability of the government to provide safety within the city’s various neighborhoods.

Another interesting point that Klinenberg brings up is that bad neighborhood and public housing planning by the government also contributed to seniors and other groups being isolated as they suffered the extreme temperatures. In fact, race riots and crime kept rising in numbers without little or no interventions by the city officials, causing decadence in these public places and people to thus isolate socially and physically to the point that this disconnection became lethal in the instance of the emergency.

Sara Camnasio

Moving On: Chinese Garment Workers after 9/11

Chinatown’s proximity to the World Trade Center fueled several of the community’s largest industries.  Ironically, this proximity financially crippled the neighborhood in the weeks, months, and years following 9/11.  First there were the immediate problems of street blockages and telephone power outages.  The area around the World Trade Center was essentially quarantined from the rest of the city.  Chinatown was also blocked off both metaphorically and in many ways physically from the city.  This resulted in the immediate closer of several businesses (particularly factories and restaurants) that relied on income from those who lived and worked in the financial district.

Within a few months thousands of workers lost their jobs.  Real Estate owners who had been waiting for leases to expire suddenly became desperate to renew these leases with the garment factories.  Most of the factories could no longer afford the fee.    In the years to come, ex-garment workers were forced to look outside of their neighborhood for work.  Unfortunately, without the necessary language skills in English (even ESL classes did not always help) they were mostly unsuccessful.  Most had never even completed high school, and had neither the resources nor the skills to easily transition into another industry.

On our tour of Chinatown we saw the direct results of this process.  Decades old store fronts were empty and many now had new businesses where family owned stores had once been.

-Victor Rerick

Social Explorer Response

The Social Explorer Talk provided a useful introduction to what will be an important tool in our initial research of the area’s we will be examining for our final projects.  For most students, an introduction to such a website will probably not even be necessary as the software and platform essentially mirror that of Google Earth.  The heavy visual component of the website makes the information accessible and easy to analyze.  The website contains a plethora of information regarding age, ethnicity, sex, and family structure.  We will see how important each of these categories was in determining how the communities responded to Hurricane Sandy.  My only initial complaint about the website layout is the color scale used to distinguish each area.  The white/ yellow/ and light orange hues tend to blend together to the unfocused eye; blurring the data they represent.  But this is a minor flaw.  The data will be essential in framing our understanding of what makes the neighborhoods we are studying unique, and which aspects of the community we should focus on while conducting our research.

{Edit} –   You can actually change the color scale.  i forgot she had shown us this feature during the presentation.  Unfortunately, none of the other available color scales are much better.

-Victor Rerick

Response to Klinenberg

The Klinenberg article provides important insight regarding the role of the city, and society in general, in preventing individuals from being both injured and killed in large-scale natural disasters.  Long-standing governmental and social institutions impact how a city responds to protect its citizens.  This observation was very evident during the Chicago heat wave, and also in our own city’s response to Hurricane Sandy.

Two observations:

1.  Chicago was much more prepared to respond to large scale tragedy when the second heat wave hit the city.  They learned from terrible mistakes during the first heat wave that may have cost the lives of hundreds of residents.  The city implemented essential response programs to more adequately deal with the situation.  Although the second heat wave was less severe, the government’s ability to respond effectively made a hug difference in the amount of people killed and injured as compared to the first heat wave.  Unfortunately, the reverse seemed to happen in New York when most residents passed off Hurricane Sandy as “just another Hurricane Irene”.  The media’s decision, and some would say “irresponsibility”, in building hype about Hurricane Irene, ultimately led many New Yorkers to not take the 24/7 news cycle warning about Sandy’s power seriously.  The city was ill-prepared for the size and strength of the storm, and the death tool and billions of dollars in damage suffered attest to that fact.

2.  Much like the strength of the Latino community in Chicago, certain communities in Staten Island (my home borough), seemed to be better prepared for Hurricane Sandy.  Groups that exist on the “edges” of society such as minorities, undocumented immigrants, and the elderly, were more likely to suffer as a result of the storm.  Undocumented citizens were afraid to seek government assistance both before and after the storm.  With few resources of their own, the ability of these groups to recover from Hurricane Sandy are severely restrained by their place in society.

-Victor Rerick

Foner Response

From a social science perspective, Foner’s decision to frame her research on a city-scale, rather than a national one, allows her to focus on what makes immigration patterns in New York so unique.  She discredits the notion that the nation state should serve as the unit of analysis when measuring immigration.  Rather than using the “city as a constant” method,  she compares and contrasts the institutions between cities that determine the nature of the immigrant experience in each.  For example,  she demonstrated the impact of the City University of New York on the education opportunities provided to new immigrants in New York.  This massive, and relatively  affordable institution, has allowed millions of immigrants passing through New York to obtain higher education levels.  Apart from personal enrichment, this allows immigrants to pursue careers with higher wages, provide for their family, and stimulate the city’s economy.  The absence of a city-wide university with a mission of affordability in other cities such as Chicago prevents low-income students, a demographic that most immigrants fall into, to move to that city and pursue desired educations and careers.

Apart from eduction, law-enforcement, medical, and judicial systems  cause a vast disparity in every American city’s “openess” to immigrants.  New York has historically placed an emphasis, through both its social institutions and economic budget, on encouraging immigrants to travel to the city.  The fluctuation of immigrants in and out of the city, as Joe Salvo observed in his talk, lends an important energy to the city.  Certain groups leave neighborhoods and new  ones emerge to take their place, changing the cultural fabric of an area seemingly overnight.  Although this transition of immigrants in and out of New York is expensive for the state, it is essential to maintaining the cultural diversity that makes New York an exceptional city on both a national and global scale.

-Victor Rerick

Klinenberg’s “Denaturalizing Disaster”

The most important idea that I gleaned from this journal article is primarily what affects the magnitude of damage that can arise from a disaster. Klinenberg takes a particular natural phenomenon, in this case the Chicago heat wave of 1995, and examines its human casualties an how they came about to be so high. Klinenberg argues that the intensity of the heat wave was not really the cause of the spike in casualties (in comparison to similar historical phenomena); rather he asserts that the causes of death were not examined from a sociological perspective and seeks to do so himself. What appears to be uncontestable is the relationship between poverty and suffering. There are three social conditions that he identifies as contributing factors to high death tolls:

1) the social morphology an political economy of vulnerability

2) the role of the state in determining this vulnerability

3) the tendency of journalists and political officials to render invisible the severity of the first two factors.

Several Questions I Had:

– To what extent was it the state’s fault that poor seniors were literally isolated?

– Which changes in public service delivery had the greatest impact on the suffering?

Salvo Response

Collecting and analyzing demographic data from a city of 9 million residents is a formidable task.  But, as Joe Salvo has shown,  it also offers valuable insight into the people that make up America’s largest sprawling metropolis.

Brooklyn alone,  as Salvo pointed out, would have the third highest population of any city in the country.  Sections of Queens are considered to be some of the most ethnically diverse areas in the world. Manhattan’s population is believed to as much as double during the daytime, when workers from the surrounding boroughs and states commute in by car, bus, and train. In the Bronx, Spanish may not be the official language, but its use rivals or supersedes that of English in many neighborhoods.  The city as a whole is experiencing a rapid influx of Asians, yet Staten Island is growing increasingly hispanic, black, and Eastern European.

All of these insights have become available thanks to censuses that though not perfect, do a remarkable job in forming a clear picture of the people who inhabit our five boroughs.  Of course, this system of obtaining demographic information has  intrinsic flaws;  neighborhoods are divided along non-traditional boundaries, participants struggle to identify with generic race categories, and those who choose not to participate often go undocumented.  But with the knowledge of the information we do have, we can more adequately serve the political, economic, and cultural needs of our city’s residence.

-Victor Rerick

 

Salvo Response

Joe Salvo’s talk was very interesting and enlightening. I had never really thought much about the changing demographics, because after all, what did it have to do with me? But then I realized that it was happening right in my neighborhood. It used to be heavily dominated by Caucasians, but now I see more and more Asians. There is also a ‘chinatown’ where I live, in Brooklyn. It’s a couple of avenues away from where I live, but nevertheless I slowly see more Asian residents around the area out of Brooklyn’s own chinatown. I thought it was also interesting that Salvo kept saying that the ‘younger’ generation was moving out of places like Chinatown in Manhattan. It makes sense, since after all, they might have the means and ability to and aren’t confined to one area like the older generation who might not be able to speak English as well as the younger generation.

Foner Response

Nothing was set in stone when cities were created. So, New York City wasn’t planned to be a city where immigrants would travel to. It is particularly interesting that immigrants in fact, did come to New York City. An interesting part of Foner’s article is that when Foner stated how politicians started appealing to the other ethnic groups in order to gain a favorable impression of themselves, it clicked in my brain that that meant that immigrants were truly there to stay. That meant that there were enough of the immigrants to make that much of an impact on New York City, and that there were that many immigrants who had the decision to change or improve what they could of New York City because politicians like Bloomberg tried to appeal to them. It meant that they were actually important and not people that could be used and then tossed away.

I agree with Foner’s statement that “the city is not, of course, a racial paradise”. Even though New York City is commended for being so racially diverse, it doesn’t mean that people of different races can get along well with one another. Even out on the streets, you can see, more often than not, people of the same race together rather than mixed race groups. Of course, that doesn’t mean that they don’t have friends of different races. For example, in my high school, although most people were friendly with everyone, you could still see clear racial groups. This is however, probably different from the reason that Foner states in the reasons following the statement. Foner states that it is because of discrimination and prejudice that people of different races stray away from one another and although that might still be happening these days, it’s not as drastic as it was back then when immigrants first came.

The Transformation of Chinese American Communities-Anissa Daimally

-I was intrigued that the Taiwanese immigrants did not move into Manhattan Chinatown because they did not identify with the others that lived there. The language barrier between the Taiwanese and the old timers in Manhattan created a “subtle social distance,” separating the “coethnics who spoke Cantonese or other southern regional dialects from those who spoke Mandarin.” Furthermore, I learnt in class that the Taiwanese are more educated and earn more money than the other Chinese immigrants; they have a higher socioeconomic status than the residents in Chinatown.

-I found it ironic that Councilwoman Julia Harrison, who was depicted as an “anti-Asian bigot,” endorsed John Liu, a Taiwanese immigrant, for the Councilman position. She previously publicly referred to the “influx of Asian immigrants and Asian-owned businesses as an ‘invasion.'” What caused her to change her views on Asian Americans?

-I think it’s great that the Chinese leaders of the new social service organizations in Los Angeles are interested in interethnic relations. Unlike members of the “old ethnic elite,” they are making an effort at assimilation, which is very important for immigrants. They should not try to exclude themselves from the rest of society. While their cultural identity is important, it does not mean that they will lose it when they interact with other ethnicities.

Moving On

– The intrinsic link between the garment workers’ presence in Chinatown and its economy starkly became evident with the closing down of garment shops after September 11.  I found this point interesting, as garment workers often did their grocery shopping and other errands during their breaks, and thus were frequent customers at stores by the factories where they worked.

– Further, the direct impact that September 11 had on individual families’ economic situations further draws attention to the importance of the garment industry in the Chinese immigrants’ lives.  Some older children in families that felt the economic pinch after September 11 (due to the fact that garment shops were closed down) had to take up jobs to help pay the bills and make ends meet.

– I found the description of Chinatown as a mobility trap to be an interesting way to view this ethnic enclave.  Garment workers in Chinatown are exploited by their employers, who have the upper hand over their undocumented employees.  The fear of being easily replaced forces these workers to be more compliant with the demands of shop owners.  Further, the coethnic nature of the garment shops themselves also transforms this urban enclave into a mobility trap for these immigrant workers.  The ethnic enclave model suggests that Chinese workers do not have to learn English to attain mobility; however, this model was proved wrong after September 11.  Despite taking ESL classes, workers were unable to become fluent in English, thus limiting their resources to work anywhere else.  This inability to become fluent stems from the fact that these workers were not required to use it in their everyday lives, as going to work meant associating with coethnics and speaking in their native tongue.

– In what ways can Chinatown be viewed as an avenue for social mobility, rather than solely a trap that limits immigrant workers?

Chin Moving On: Anissa Daimally

-After 9/11, subway stations and major roads in Chinatown were closed or access was limited. Phone service was also shut off. These factors prevented orders from being placed, completed, and/or picked up in the garment shops in Chinatown. This led to major job losses in the garment industry. It also created a domino effect where the stores in Chinatown also suffered because the garment workers were their major customers. Once these garment workers stopped coming to Chinatown, the stores earned less. Did Hurricane Sandy have the same effect?

– I found it interesting that the Chinese garment workers missed their jobs. They “longed for the job that they complained about so bitterly.” This is perhaps related to the fact that they were in a coethnic workplace where the co-workers shared a common background and language. They also missed the job because it was hard for them to get a job outside of the garment industry. They lacked English skills and networks to other jobs. I believe that this may have been a good thing because these Chinese garment workers needed to realize that they cannot rely on the ethnic enclave to gain a job.

The Transformation of Chinese American Communities Response

-When I read that in the 1990s an “anti-Asian bigot” had won two elections when she was running against Asian Americans on both occasions in Flushing, I was flabbergasted. How could that be when Asians made up almost one-third of the population? Why was only seven percent of the Asian population registered voters? Did political acts such as the Chinese Exclusion Act cause Asian Americans to distant themselves as far away from politics as they could get? If so, what made them regain their faith in the American government? Or, did the Chinese’s lack of faith convince them that they should finally vote and partake in the government by being officials and controlling their own affairs/destiny? As the article pointed out towards the end, “the [eventual] electoral success of the Chinese immigrant community reaffirms the democratic message that every vote counts, which in turn empowers Chinese immigrants, nurtures a greater sense of civic duty, and facilitates their incorporation into the American polity.” Despite feeling as though they may not have a voice, I believe the great thing about the US is that if an individual or group of people, native born or naturalized citizens, make an effort to be heard, they will.

-It was also very interesting how Old Chinatown paved the way for places like Monterey Park. Rather than being isolated, these newer communities are maintaining better economic, social and political ties. They are finally realizing the importance of active assimilation. Did the mold of Chinatown lay the foundation of what should and shouldn’t be done when a new ethnic enclave comes about in a community?

-What were the visual differences between Old Chinatown and Chinatown of the here and now as compared to communities like Monterey Park? Is the visual differences as apparent as the divisions between the economic makeup, social landscape and political ties?

Moving On

-I found it very ironic how after 9/11, the very jobs the Chinese garment workers complained about were the ones they would come to miss. It really seems as though having to work in some of the most unfavorable conditions made the Chinese under appreciate the fact that everyone at the garment factory shared a common language and background. These were the very jobs by which they were easily able to get by the simple fact that they were Chinese.

-Following 9/11, the Chinese population had to wait in lines for as long as an entire day to see if they qualified for the aid being offered. Did history repeat itself following Hurricane Sandy when the Chinese residents were inquiring whether or not they qualified for disaster relief? Did this wait affect if or when businesses could reopen following the structural damage suffered and/or the prolonged period of time without electricity? If there was a lack of assistance for aid, did the Chinese simply turn to another area to get help? For the groups that did aid in relief help, who were they? What type of information did they provide for the community? Did they offer non-perishable items considering that most people lost electricity and thereby were probably in need of the basic necessities?

-Since most Chinese women worked in the garment factories to qualify for health insurance by meeting a certain quota every year, how did insurance factor in when they were unable to work and instead filed for unemployment benefits?  Did unemployment benefits only account for a percentage of the Chinese workers last paycheck and exclude health insurance? If so, what did the Chinese do in order to qualify for health insurance? Was there another program implemented that specifically catered to providing Health Insurance and if so, were there any specific qualifications?

Ashley Haynes: Sewing Women

-I really wish America and the government could share the sentiment of immigrants that the Korean owner did of Mexicans and Ecuadorians at the start of Chapter 5. The owner really did speak volumes. Most people automatically assume that undocumented immigrants are trying to get over when they really aren’t. They are just as diligent and hard working in their jobs as a typical citizen. They are wiling to pay their dues to society. However, since people have their preconceived notions, they don’t necessarily get to know most immigrants as the Korean owner has. Thus, these very same people who refuse to help only make matters worse by simply complaining about the number of undocumented immigrants as if that is making a difference.

– A line in Chapter 5 states that necessity brings together dissimilar ethnic groups, and the managerial group eventually accords its employees as fictive coethnics in the garment industry. Thus, when the devastating Hurricane Sandy hit Chinatown, did necessity bring together all ethnic groups? Does the term coethnics hold meaning outside of the workforce?

-It was very depressing to read how passive the Chinese workers had to be out of obligation and respect to the person who brought them in by not complaining. How is asking for better wages seen as complaining? Doesn’t everyone have to make a living?

-It was also very interesting to read about the Chinese garment worker’s experience in the Korean shop. At first I was thrown off guard as to why she felt it was embarrassing to tell people that she had worked there because it was still the same type of work that everyone else did, just different ownership.  However, after reading why she felt that way, her sentiment made a lot more sense. From the Chinese worker’s perspective, I do find it deplorable that if the Chinese workers worked faster it meant that they were only placed on harder jobs at the same rate. It is understandable that not everyone may like or get along with another individual or group but that doesn’t mean you have to treat people in a degrading manner.

Ashley Haynes: Sewing Women (Chapter 1-4)

-I found the opening quotes to Chapter 3 to be very heartfelt. It was also a great precursor to the chapter at hand. The comparative analysis of the Mexican woman’s experience to that of the Chinese woman when they were able to come to America really provided a good example on how different racial groups migrate.  By showing how much pain the Mexican woman was in when she knew she had to leave her eighteen-month year old baby made me really sympathize even more with Hispanic immigrants. They uproot their lives and also sacrifice precious family time in the aspirations that they will be able to provide a better life for their kids and subsequent generations back home. They literally put their needs behind those of their children. The negative  portrayal the government has regarding Hispanics is the farthest from the truth. When they come to the United States they are not simply trying to get over. They have a purpose to work hard. Likewise, another misconception I feel people have regarding Hispanics is that when they come to the US, documented or undocumented, they have nothing to lose and everything to gain. I feel as though if people only look at the history of Hispanic migration patterns such would also be dispelled. Most Hispanics are physically separated from their families. Yes there is technology through which they can communicate with their families, but such still isn’t the same as physically being in the same room.

-Why did most Hispanics leave their children behind in their native country? Did they fear that they would be unable to properly care for them because of the garment factory working hours? Did they fear that their children would lose a sense of their native culture? How were they able to stay away from their families for such prolong periods of time? Did the knowledge that their work at the garment factory was for their children, although far away, keep them going?

 

Foner Response

Nancy Foner’s article was interesting in that it outlined what made New York so different from other immigrant cities in the United States, such as Los Angeles. She compares the social structure of the two cities and points out how New York’s history of receiving immigrants has allowed it to develop organizations and institutions based on immigrant culture. What I found especially interesting was how she compared the nature of the flow of immigrants, which helped to construct how they were received in the city. More educated and skilled immigrants were better received.

Foner also mentions the model minority myth associated with Asians in NYC and discusses how this concept is less prevalent in cities where Southeast Asians, who may be less educated, are the majority. The myth is represented as a positive label. However, the view that Asians are a model minority group actually prevents the group from getting equal treatment when it comes to social assistance.

-Wendy Li

Salvo Response

Joe Salvo’s talk was interesting in that it highlighted how dynamic the demographics are in New York City. I did not expect such dramatic changes regarding where certain people live. One aspect of his talk that I found surprising at first was the outward migration of Asians from Chinatown. This was shocking initially, but when I reconsidered the idea; it made sense. The general sentiment of the younger Asian generation born in New York, I believe, is that Chinatown is for the older generation. Therefore they resist staying there when they have the ability to move away.

Another point that I found interesting was how the increase of Asians in certain neighborhoods corresponded to an increase in Hispanics and Latinos in the same neighborhood as well. In the maps of Staten Island and Brooklyn, the two groups show a migration into nearly the same shaded area. This was interesting because Asians generally do not associate themselves with Hispanics and Latinos. However their movement shows a similarity between them and offers an insight as to how they are positioned in a predominantly white city. Are Asians and Hispanics still stigmatized as inferior groups based on their migration patterns?

-Wendy Li

Social Explorer – Anissa Daimally

-Social Explorer is an online research tool that provides easy access to demographic information and census data. I feel that this website will be very helpful for the research that the groups will be conducting on their chosen neighborhoods. For example, the website allows one to customize, save, and export the maps and data to a variety programs like Microsoft Excel or Microsoft PowerPoint that can be used for presentations. For my assignment neighborhood project, I would be able to look at the maps of Chinatown and the racial composition of the area. I can then save a map of the data and later use it for the video presentation.
-I enjoy that this tool is very user-friendly because most other programs are difficult to navigate through. In addition, Social Explorer provides very detailed information; not only can you look at the racial composition of different areas, but you can also view the differences in areas based on gender, divorce rates, and income.

Sewing Women: Anissa Daimally

-I was surprised to see how open the Koreans and the Chinese were in discriminating potential workers. Both groups did not want to hire African Americans or Puerto Ricans because they believe these races were lazy and would not want the job even if it was open to them. They only wanted to hire immigrants who don’t speak English because they are not aware of the standard wages they are supposed to receive and they have limited ability to complain to authorities. For example, a Puerto Rican woman pretended to have limited English-speaking skills when looking for work in the Korean garment shop. Once she revealed that she was from Puerto Rico, she did not receive the job. The Koreans are also discriminatory based on skin color. Even though they hire Ecuadorians, they do not hire black Ecuadorians because they associate them with African Americans.

-I previously wondered why the Chinese get lower pay than the Hispanic workers. The worker-sponsor relationships in Chinese garment shops lead to constraints that inhibit the Chinese from demanding hire wages. The new hires did not want to request hire wages because they feared that their sponsors’ would look bad to the owner. Furthermore, the supply of Chinese workers is greater than the demand in the garment shop, so wages are lower. For the Hispanics, the demand for skilled workers is greater than the supply in the Korean garment shops, so their wages are higher.

-I was intrigued that the Ecuadorian wages are appropriate while the Mexicans were willing to accept lower wages. This is because the Ecuadorians had a higher level of education and more job experience. Furthermore, the Mexicans are very marginalized. I feel that the Ecuadorians should inform the Mexicans that they should go to the Worker’s Center. However, in the long run, the Mexicans become more experienced and increase their wages.

Salvo- A New Look on New York

I have always known that New York, especially New York City, has an extremely diverse population.  Mr. Salvo did not only reinforce these ideas, but similarly to the idea of evolution, proved that this diverse population is never constant or ceasing to change.

1. How can we know the true population of New York City because the census will never 100 percent accurate?

2. Out of pure curiosity, why are people leaving the New York City area all together?

Social Explorer

Unfortunately I was unable to attend the Social Explorer talk with Sydney Beveridge due to a previous engagement, however I took a look at the NY Times article provided as well as the website itself. What I find most interesting is the way that the wide range of data is able to be produced and displayed on each of the maps. Also I am a very visual person, so I think being able to see the data laid out like that rather than written out or simply in a table makes it more interesting and more accesible to a wide range of people. I think this is especially important when writing news articles or doing reports to a larger audience who can see and will be able to interpret faster than if it were simply using words.

Jobs and Tests

1. What I found interesting in the latter chapters of the book was the discussion of how the employers chose their employees. These mindsets seem almost borderline racist, and were certainly based mainly on stereotypes. I simply question whether these mindsets come from cultural differences created before immigration, after immigration, or were they developed from racism and stereotypes?

2. Secondly, I just found it very interesting reading the quote on page 135 by the Chinese woman who talked about studying for the citizenship test. I connect to this quote because my parents recently passed their citizenship tests; they are English so they didn’t have to learn an entirely new language in order to take the test, but they did have to study up on the questions that the Chinese woman mentions practicing with her daughter and my parents did study while I was around, so I can relate to that.

Comparing Thoughts and Experiences

1. One thing that I found very interesting just in the way that the chapters were organized, at least Chapters 3 and 4, was the two quotes that began the chapters. Laying out the differences between the Hispanic and the Chinese thoughts and experiences spoke volumes to me. As an immigrant and a minority, I do find that hearing other people’s experiences and comparing them to mine is very powerful in how I then think about the person. So, I found the quotes to be a very good way to open up the chapters.

2. In response to these quotes that I found to be powerful, I did have a question. Where these differences in thoughts and experiences consequences of how the immigrants were treated when they were in the process of immigrating and afterwards as well, or were they merely brought about by cultural differences that would have been developed in their homelands? Or is it a combination of the two, or other factors altogether?

Age and Ethnicity vs. Statistical Data

1. While reading Klinenberg’s “Denaturalizing disaster” something that struck me was how hopeless it would have been for certain age and ethnic groups in Chicago. They had never been helped before by the city, and thus when they needed help, they didn’t respond and even more disparaging they weren’t offered anything close to the level of assistance they needed. I think that Klinenberg had a really good way of showing this, by describing the police inaction which led to many elderly African American deaths during the heat wave. This also ties in very closely with how one would look at what happened to the large amount of elderly living in walk-ups in Chinatown during Sandy. One would hope that any deaths that occurred during that time were not under the same circumstances as in Chicago.

2. During class, something that I found interesting was the idea that women connect people to one another. We discussed how in the Latino communities in Chicago, where less deaths occurred than in the non-Latino black communities, there may have been more women to get the word out and to help out those who may otherwise have been stuck in their apartments like the non-Latino black elderly. This brought us to a discussion about looking at gender, class, and race closely when making or looking at statistical data, which I think is obviously very important when coming to any conclusions about these descriptors and their effects on what happened.

Truthful

Everyone knows that New York City is the way it is because of the people that come into it, but I did find Foner’s way of explaining why the City is so unique to be quite interesting. Firstly, Foner stated that the mixing of nationalities is the root of having both high and low skilled workers in NYC. I think this is an interesting way to look at things because essentially this means that Foner thinks that immigrants from certain countries will have higher skilled workers than others. I don’t know if I fully agree with this, but I do think that it’s an interesting way to look at things. Secondly, Foner explored the perceptions of race and ethnicity. Foner stated that what was going on in the entirety of the United States influenced what went on in New York City in addition to the influence from the immigrants constantly pouring into NYC. I think that perceptions, especially pre-perceptions and stereotypes, are really important to think about when thinking about New York City because there are so many different types of people living among each other and if all one does is think about what a person is supposed to be like based off their ethnicity, then it is impossible to get to know a person. In all, I found Foner’s reading to be truthful.

Foner Response

Foner wrote that the immigrant experience is shaped by the city people live in and the effects of particular social, political, and economic institutions and structures on the options available to these people.  She also said that there are other influences, such as the immigrants’ skill composition, the diversity of the groups, and the timing of arrival.  I agree with Foner on these aspects, and I believe that part of the reason that many immigrants thrive in New York City is because it is so rich in these institutions.  For example, New York City is a huge economic center in the country with many large and small businesses thriving.  There are also many educational opportunities here.

I thought it was interesting to see that different areas of the country consider there to be different degrees of “Blackness.”  This can cause people in different cities to push against the negative stereotypes that many black people face.  This can be beneficial to our country.  I also found it interesting to see that there is a separation among the different Latino or Hispanic groups.  Different parts of the country prefer either of the terms.  Also, within these groups, the smaller subgroups of nationalities often do not want to be associated with one another.

Social Explorer Response

The Social Explorer presentation gave us insights into how we can use the website.  It may be helpful to use the website to look at maps of the area we are going to explore.  You can even look for specific areas or addresses, which will also be helpful in our project.  We can then go to those areas or addresses to explore further.  You can also puts these maps into a slideshow form to scroll through multiple maps.

The website is also useful because you can input specific factors you want to explore about the area, including income, race, and religion.  In some cases you can even put more than one of these aspects on the same graph in order to compare more easily.  In the presentation we also saw the use of circles to show data, in this case it was election data.  It was interesting to see how you could manipulate the maps in this and other ways.

Joe Salvo Response

I found it interesting that Staten Island is so much less diverse than the other boroughs.  Being from Staten Island, I assumed it was somewhat closer in the amount of diversity it contains to the other parts of New York City.  Comparing my grammar school and high school experiences to college, I do see less diversity in Staten Island than in Manhattan although it may be increasing.

I also found it interesting that the boroughs of New York City are so diverse on their own (with Staten Island as the exception).  Manhattan, Brooklyn, Queens, and the Bronx surpassed many other major cities in the level of diversity they had.  This remains true even when there are many people moving out of the city because there are also new people coming in.

“How Exceptional is New York?” Response

1. I found the contrast of how various  groups were perceived in New York City as opposed to other major cities in the United States very interesting. For instance, the distinction between Cubans as a separate entity and the greater category of Hispanics changes with location; in Miami for example Cubans are identified in a group all by themselves because they comprise a considerable portion of the hispanic populations. Naturally, in different areas of the country (i.e. Texas) the term “Hispanic” has different implications as to a specific race. Another interesting contrast exists between NYC and California where the “model minority” stereotype does not apply. Rather, the people of the predominantly Southeast Asian population are considered to be “freeloaders”. Finally the last distinction to interest me was the “black” v. “African” distinction that exists in NYC but seems to be lacking elsewhere in the country. Do these differences affect where certain groups settle and migrate to within the country?

2. How does the identity of “the New Yorker” differ from the identity of the “American”? Is there really a significant cultural distinction?

Chin Chp 1-4

1. I thought the drastic differences between the Chinese and Korean garment factories very interesting. In class, it was said that the Chinese and Koreans work together while also competing against each other. I never really thought about the competition in the garment factory. I assumed that most of the garment factories were run by the Chinese, but it seems that in fact the Korean factories are run more effectively and organized than the Chinese.

2. I also never thought about the danger of interviewing these immigrants and the difficulties and technicalities that must be met in order for the immigrants rights and privacy to be held. THrough all of these obstacles, to actually connect with these workers and gain the immigrants trust and be invited into their inner circles seems very rewarding.

Emma Park-Hazel

Klinenberg Response

1. As Klinenberg described how certain group such as the elderly and the African American community were basically abandoned and helpless in the heatwave because they either did not have the accommodations to survive or did not have enough of a community to ban together and survive, it reminded me of Hurricane Katrina. The ones who were most affected were poor African Americans who could not get out of New Orleans before the hurricane hit. After Sandy, it occurred to me how this pattern keeps happening over and over again and there needs to be more programs for disaster protection of these poor and helpless neighborhoods so the cycle doesn’t continue.

2. I really liked the fact about the latino community. They were less affected because they were more of a tight knit community and were able to help each other. In a sense, they did not forget about each other, so the media and the government and aid did not forget about them either.

Emma Park-Hazel

Sewing Women (5-9)

1. While reading chapter 5, I found myself making assumptions about why different ethnic groups, such as the Korean and Chinese groups, did not hire Puerto Ricans and African Americans.  It was surprising to find out that sometimes these owners were self-concious about their lack of knowledge of U.S. laws and the English language.

2. What are the advantages and disadvantages of the processes that the Koreans and Chinese use in their respective factories?

This City is More Than Just Maps

I was actually quite excited to go to the Joe Salvo talk, perhaps that was because of the excitement exuding from the friend that I went with, but nevertheless I was not against going. There were a couple of things that I found to be interesting about his talk, despite or perhaps because of the fact that I was sitting in front of a group of girls who were only interested in making not only rude, but also borderline racist remarks throughout the entire event. Firstly, I found it very interesting that all five boroughs were included in the top ten cities in the US with the highest populations. I also found it very interesting that Brooklyn and Queens ranked higher than Manhattan. Coming from the suburbs, from an immigrant family, I always thought of Manhattan as the “real” New York City. I don’t even know what that means now that I live in Manhattan and have explored a little more of the different boroughs. However, I do think that a lot of people have the same mentality when it comes to NYC and the boroughs, so it was interesting to see that Brooklyn and Queens actually have more life – at least by numbers living. The second thing that I found interesting was actually being able to see how diverse this city is. Everyone knows that New York City, that the United States itself, is “the Melting Pot” of the World, but to see the numbers on a map – it was quite profound. Overall, Joe Salvo’s talk may not have been the most riveting but it was definitely full of interesting points and connects very well to this course.

Foner Reading

1.  I recently watched a documentary about interracial children and how they identify themselves. Foner brings up the census and the limited options of what to choose when picking race. So many races are either not represented or misrepresented such as the light skinned Cubans. This is a dilemma that these interracial children in the documentary faced. They did not know what ethnicity to check off and it made them very insecure about their own biracial status.

2. I liked when Foner was talking about CUNY and how students of all different ethnicities are able to come together there. In my sociology class. we talked about how students of all ethnicities feel the ability more to be themselves and represent their culture as opposed to a private college where many students who come from ethnic backgrounds feel like they have to change to fit in.

Emma Park-Hazel

Joe Salvo Talk

1. I found it very interesting when Mr. Salvo was talking about immigration to the Bronx. I wet to high school in the Bronx and the immigration population is clearly heavily latino and african american, however there are areas such as Riverdale that are mainly populated by white, Jewish people. These neighborhoods such as Riverdale, however, are very much isolated from the rest of the Bronx. I am very curious to see how the population in the Bronx will grow in the next 10 ten years and if it will become more assimilated.

2. One problem, or rather question, that I had with Mr. Joe Salvo’s talk was that although he explained the patterns  of migration in New York, he really didn’t give a good explanation of why certain groups migrated to the areas when they did.

Emma Park-Hazel

Foner Response

1. I found Foner’s discussion of New York City’s vs Los Angeles’ welcoming level fascinating. While NYC has become an immigrant mecca, LA is still working on adjusting to newcomers. Foner explains that LA has been a majority Anglo city until more recently, when large amounts of the undocumented moved into the city. Her observations relate to the stereotypes that I have of New York vs Los Angeles. As a performer, when I think of LA I think of the film industry and how they are less enthusiastic about color blind casting, and instead strive to reach visual cohesion in terms of race. Whereas in NYC, where theater is more dominant, it is not as uncommon to see a black actor play the biological father of a white actress’ character.

2. I liked Foner’s explanation of how students of different national backgrounds are all able to communicate with each other in schools such as our very own CUNY campuses. However, she also describes how sometimes groups of students that share a language other than English will gather and speak in that tongue, thus excluding several students who are not capable of speaking in said tongue. Instead of viewing this as something negative, I think it’s amazing that the students are able to even find others like themselves, and that priding themselves in their similarities is not hurtful.

How Things “Seam” in the Garment Industry

– It is interesting to note that the Korean owners stereotype blacks and Puerto Ricans as unreliable and not as hardworking as the immigrants that work for them.  This point of view reveals the multifaceted prejudices that exist in the hiring sector.  Even among the Hispanics hired by the Koreans, skin color plays a predominant role.  Interviewees that look Puerto Rican are turned away from the job, further attesting to implicit racism.  I also found it interesting that both Chinese and Korean owners prefer to hire immigrants over nonimmigrants (regardless of the Chinese owners’ tendency to hire coethnics and the Koreans’ tendency to hire Hispanics).  This preference is due to the fact that the owners know more is at stake for the immigrants, especially if they are undocumented, and can thus ensure that these employees work in a cooperative manner.  Sewing Women further sheds light upon the fact that the shop owners fear that blacks and Puerto Ricans, who speak English well, will be more outspoken about their rights and wages. Chinese owners thus turn away blacks and Puerto Ricans looking for work because they fear that these workers, if hired, will report violations in their shops.

– I was particularly struck by the impersonal nature of work in the Korean sector.  This is most likely due to the fact that workers in Korean-owned shops are not coethnic, work as if on an assembly line, and are paid hourly.  The non-coethnic atmosphere in the Korean shops shifts the focus of work to productivity, especially since the workers are not tied to each other personally.  The competitive sentiments that exist in the Korean shops are seemingly absent in the Chinese shops, where coethnic workers are linked by their obligations to each other.

– Do differences within the coethnic Chinese workers (Mandarin vs. Cantonese, countryside vs. city origins) cause conflict on the job?

Response to Salvo Talk

1. I found it interesting that people are constantly immigrating to the city as well as leaving the city, therefore changing the demographics of New York City. However, does the changing demographics result simply from this, or are issues such as the gentrification of the Upper East Side included? Wouldn’t this mean that as non-hispanics move in, hispanics must move out? Where are they going if they aren’t necessarily leaving the city?

2. The idea that there is no average New Yorker. New York is diverse enough that it is difficult to pin point who makes up the majority. The contrast between NYC and my suburban home town only 30 minutes north of Manhattan is incredibly drastic, where in my home town I’d calculate that a solid 80% of my school was Italian or Irish.

Joe Salvo talk

Questions:

– Why might people want to move out of New York City?

– If New York City is so diverse but accepting, why are there segregated neighborhoods? (Isn’t that negative?)

– What are white people? Just Europeans or non-hispanics? Is it better to further diversify or to unify?

– And how about black people? Are black people just African-Americans or also West Indians?

– Is the growing population of New York city causing it to expand horizontally or vertically?

Interesting points:

– New York City ethnic groups are very balanced, there isn’t a dominant group, which I believe it is truly amazing.

 

Sara Camnasio

Foner and Chin Readings

Questions and interesting points:

– How does someone know if the person conducting the study (or interviewing) is psychologically appropriate for the task?

– There are non-trivial elements in this training that are more important than one would expect: for example the fact that one needs to make sure the “voluntariness” element is present at all times.

– Does anyone check throughout the research that what was promised is getting done, and that nothing is shady?

How can this help my research:

– I would try to find neighborhoods in which Chinese immigrants aren’t permanent residents and/or are part of older generations (perhaps make comparison with residents and/or younger generations?).

– I’d try to find younger generation individuals willing to introduce us to their elder family members

Sara Camnasio

Klinenberg Response-Anissa Daimally

-It was interesting that the Latino population did not suffer as much deaths as the African American population in Chicago. This is because the “low-income Latino communities live largely outside of the most extreme poverty areas in the city,” while the low-income black communities live in these extreme poverty and dangerous areas. Thus, the African American neighborhoods received little assistance from the state because the social workers did not want to enter these areas. I found this to be ridiculous because it these social service providers were not doing their jobs. If these social service providers actually went to these areas, the death rate in these neighborhoods would not have been so high.
– I found that Mayor Daley did not do his job efficiently during the heat wave. Instead of taking responsibility, he blamed the victims of the heat wave. He believed it was their own fault for not taking care of themselves and each other. He refused to acknowledge that the city failed to respond to the heat properly. The government was partially at fault because Daley did not issue a Heat Emergency warning and did not activate emergency procedures. The police and the fire department were not prepared to handle the effects of the heat wave. It is ironic that the Mayor’s commission said “government cannot do it all,” since two weeks after the heat wave, another heat wave challenged the city again. This time, an emergency plan was executed that secured the health and welfare of the citizens.

Sewing Women Chap1-4: Anissa Daimally

Questions
1. Why do Hispanics get paid more than the Chinese garment workers? Shouldn’t the Chinese workers get paid more since their bosses are also Chinese?
2. Why don’t Koreans hire other immigrants? Why do they only hire Hispanic immigrants?

Comments
-I found the differences between the Chinese garment shops and the Korean garment shops to be drastic. These differences are based on many factors, such as the pay system, the ethnicity of the workplace, and the gender roles of the workers. The Chinese garment shops is a bit disorganized with cloth laying on the ground. This is because the workers are getting paid by piece, so there is no work being passed from person to person. Furthermore, since the Chinese garment shops are coethnic, there is more leniency and flexibility. The Chinese workers do not punch the clock upon entering work. They are allowed to leave the workplace to pick up their children and to do their grocery shopping. There is also music being played in the work area as well as food stations for the workers.
The Korean garment shops, however, are more strict with their workers because they are getting paid by the hour. The Hispanics cannot come and go as they please; they have to use the punch clock. In addition, work is passed from person to person, like an assembly line. Thus, the workplace is very organized. Furthermore, there are both men and women working in the garment shop because they do not follow the traditional roles. The Hispanic men do not consider sewing to be a woman’s job.
-I found it interesting that the Hispanic men don’t mind working in the garment workshop, but the Chinese men do mind. The Chinese workers brought their traditional roles with them; the men consider garment work to be “women’s work.” The Hispanic men, however, are just concerned with making money and do not care about ‘gender roles.’
-I found it interesting that the Chinese followed the family emigration pattern and the staged emigration pattern while the Hispanics followed the transnational emigration pattern and the singles emigration pattern. The Chinese want to build a home in the United States while the Hispanics want to return back to their homeland. This is the reason why many Hispanics do not bring their children to the United States.

Klinenberg Article Response

Comments/Questions:

-During the deadly heat wave in Chicago, it was reported that Latinos had a sense of communal support and living. If someone needed assistance it was given. As a result, the causalities among the Latino community were far less severe than with the black and white population. After Hurricane Sandy was the same the case for the Chinese community living in Chinatown? If an elderly Chinese person wasn’t able to go up and down the stairs to get necessities, did someone offer assistance? Did the community based organizations for Asian Americans aid in any major way? If so, how did the community aid compare to that which was given by national organizations? Did the two amplify the efforts of the other or did one have to compensate for the lack of the other? What were they major organizations? Did people in the community know about these agencies before the lethal Hurricane Sandy hit?

-Although the government shouldn’t be entirely to blame for the aftermath of natural disasters such as heat waves, I find it ironic how the results change when the government is proactive instead of pointing a finger. For example, when another heat wave hit, by implementing an emergency plan, there were only two heat related deaths. The subtle simply acts of opening more cooling centers, extending beach hours and assigning police to check on seniors made a world of a difference.

-Following Hurricane Irene, the hurricane from the year before although not nearly as devastating as Hurricane Sandy, did the government take any steps to better prepare the city? If not, why not, didn’t it become obvious that New York is now susceptible to Hurricanes and that we need to be prepared? Has any new changes been made now after quite some time has passed since Hurricane Sandy? If not, has the city’s officials been blind to their surroundings?

 

 

Ashley Haynes: Social Explorer Response

Comments:

-I know that the ACS survey provides a smaller sample than the census. However, does this mean that only a select few households fill out the ACS form? If so how does the selection process work? Does every other person in a neighborhood receive the ACS form? Does one household per block receive the survey to fill out? If so, wouldn’t the selection method for who fills out the survey compromise the accuracy of the data?

-Beyond the fact that not everyone receives the American community survey, how often does the survey get sent out for citizens to fill out? Is it sent out as frequent as the census? What is the return rate as far as how many people return the survey filled out? If people don’t return the survey, do more people get the survey to fill out considering the sample is already relatively small? Wouldn’t a lack of returned forms make the results inadequate? Why isn’t the ACS distributed to a larger population of people like the census is?

-Yet, although the ACS is based on a smaller sample, I believe its more detailed data will serve as a valuable commodity when researching a respective neighborhood. The ACS survey data encompasses a lot more divisions among a population than the common census form that everyone is suppose to fill out. For example, instead of just race and population in a given area, the ACS data provides information regarding education level, income and rent amongst other things.

-The Social Explorer Program seems to only enhance the data from the ACS survey through interactive maps. I believe the maps on the Social Explorer Program can really be used to quantify visually the field notes from a respective neighborhood in regards to the racial makeup, political landscape and economic power. The more visuals there are in a project, the more appealing the project will be.

Ashley Haynes: Joe Salvo Talk Response

Joseph Salvo Talk

Comments/Questions:

-Brooklyn will soon be the third most populous city in the nation.

When someone thinks of the state of New York, the common image one would imagine is that of New York City. New York City is a mecca of wonder. There is the infamous Times Square, Rockefeller Center, the MET Museum, etc.… Brooklyn is more suburban. However, I guess the arrival of attractions such as the Brooklyn Nets at the Barclay’s center downtown is really attracting more people along with the affordability. However, is the increase in population a result of movement from other boroughs in New York? Are people from out of the state the cause of the steady rise in Brooklyn’s population?

 

-Cities want the influx of migration in and out.

I always assumed cities want an influx of tourists to temporarily visit because of the revenue they would bring. It never crossed my mind that an influx of migration helps counter act the baby boomers that are now retiring. However, after Joe Salvo mentioned that net migration leads to a larger workforce it makes sense that a city would need more people coming in to uphold daily functional tasks that the baby boomers are now retiring from.

-The Hispanic population is the only group that has seen growth in numbers across the five boroughs. What has caused decreases in growth amongst other racial groups? Are groups just migrating to other areas of New York or leaving entirely? Are deaths amongst other groups outweighing births?

-Immigration is a two way street.

When new people of different ethnicities and cultural backgrounds come to New York City they bring different cuisines, knowledge, craft, increase the workforce and help support city utilities through taxes. In return, the government provides the needed language proficiency agencies to help new immigrants get acclimated.

Ashley Haynes: Foner Response

Foner: How Exceptional is New York?

QUESTION

1. On pg.1008, it states that there is a dominance of Cubans who are phenotypically white or light skinned in the Miami metropolitan area. When they identify themselves as white, how does the census account for this? How are they are able to report that actual native Cubans claim to be white? Does the government essentially take the reported data in the returned census forms with a grain of salt? Do they send out workers to estimate the validity of these forms?

2. If someone is born from an interracial couple, how do they factor in when they are included in the population count via their census forms? Isn’t there just as many interracial individuals as there are people born from parents of the same race?

Comments:

-New York, the mecca of America, is the quintessential immigrant city with a long history of ethnic succession and immigrant inclusion. New York’s history shows that foreign-born individuals help to add diversity to our country and people in hindsight seem not to mind. People from all walks of life always gather for events such as the West Indian Day Parade, as the article mentioned. As a result, I don’t understand why political leaders refuse to agree on national immigration legislation. Congress passed the Dream Act. Why can’t the same be done for immigration laws?

-Although their actions were very subtle, Mayor Bloomberg and former Mayor Fiorello Laguardia helped pave forth the New York welcoming way. Mayor Bloomberg didn’t necessarily have to hold a campaign spot in Spanish but understanding the demographic make-up of the city, he accommodated. Likewise, former Mayor Fiorello LaGuardia didn’t just speak in the native language of the immigrant population; by visiting Israel, Italy and Ireland, he showed his intentions were pure by going firsthand to learn the culture of his newly migrated citizens.

Sewing the Pieces Together

– I found it interesting that the Hispanic men did not feel as if working in the garment shops was a woman’s job.  This opinion stands in direct contrast to that of the Chinese men who prefer jobs in restaurants; these men dismiss the garment sector as work for women, and thus do not wish to take up jobs in the garment shops.  They view the work they do in the restaurants, which requires manual labor, as more in line with their masculinity.  This is interesting to note, as the women who work in the shops also testify to the less strenuous nature of work in the garment industry.  These perspectives reveal the two-sided nature of the Chinese men’s sentiments, as these feelings that are harbored by the men are reinforced by the women.  Perhaps these sentiments testify to deeply rooted cultural views that shaped these notions in the first place.

– The contrast in migration patterns between the Chinese and the Koreans further sheds light upon the cultural differences between these immigrant groups.  Whereas the Chinese generally migrate as a family unit, the Hispanics more often maintain transnational families; that is, the Hispanics do not generally migrate with their children.  This decision is most likely due to the fact that the Hispanics intend to return to their native countries after a certain time period.  These migrants use the money that they earn in the United States to establish a better life for themselves back home.

– I found the field notes included in Sewing Women extremely helpful, as they set the scene for me as the reader.  These notes gave the statistics previously mentioned in the beginning chapters a qualitative value, as I was then able to visualize the areas in question.

– How do the contrasts in migration patterns among the Chinese and Hispanic garment workers reveal cultural differences between the two groups?

Heat Wave!

– The social causes of the 1995 Chicago heat wave, as elucidated by Klinenberg, were overlooked initially because media coverage failed to recognize “the political determinants of the heat wave deaths” (272).   Klinenberg acknowledges that the heat wave shed light upon the underlying violence, vulnerability, and state entrenchment that was present during this ‘natural’ disaster.  It thus becomes evident that the media coverage during the heat wave also served to de-politicize the event. The media’s naturalization of the heat wave shifted the public eye’s focus from the marginality and neglect of particular groups (for instance, the elderly), despite the fact that the death rates among the marginalized brought to light the social issues in Chicago at the time.  It was interesting to note that, when the social causes of the heat wave started to become apparent – after the government failed to implement emergency procedures and then blamed the victims of the heat wave for not taking proper care of themselves – the Chicago mayor defensively argued, “I’m not insensitive” (274).

– Klinenberg’s article also draws attention to the influence of gender, race, and class on the survival rate of those who experienced the Chicago heat wave, thereby shedding light upon the social aspects that influenced the outcomes of this natural disaster.  Klinenberg reports a higher death rate among blacks and whites in comparison to Latinos because of their socially connected lifestyles.  A tradition of communal living, as well as the presence of women in Latino families, allowed them to cooperate during the heat wave.

– Can the outcomes of Hurricane Sandy in particular geographic areas indicate social marginalization in NY? (To be honest, the lack of immediate attention to certain areas in Staten Island certainly seemed to validate – for me – the suggestion that we are “the forgotten borough”!)

“Demo”graphics

– The maps generated by the Social Explorer site provide users with a visual component alongside the data accessed.  The availability of data tables to accompany the images qualifies this data, and allows for visual analysis of the given statistics to facilitate the study of particular geographic areas (in our case, Manhattan Chinatown).  This site is a valuable resource for understanding and quantifying the information we will collect for our neighborhood documentary project.

– The Social Explorer program certainly seems to put the “demo” in demographics.  Its interactive, user-friendly interface allows students to explore – on their own – immigration patterns in relation to gender, age, class, and race.  The ability for users to save the information retrieved from the Social Explorer site to Microsoft Powerpoint or Excel draws attention to the well-planned nature of the program.  I am also impressed by the amount of detail contained in the maps generated by the site.  In testing it out, I was even able to find my own block!  Perhaps we can use the Social Explorer program to map out blocks for our Chinatown project.

– What type of repository stores this information?  Is there a way to perform checks on these statistics to ensure their accuracy?  How do the developers of this interface monitor and update their database?

Race and Identity

– Foner’s article draws attention to the fact that the census is only as accurate as the information volunteered by those filling it out.  Foner cites the example of light-skinned Cubans in Miami who identified themselves as white on the 2000 Census so as to disassociate themselves from the stigma of “less successful” (1008) Hispanics.  I have a light-skinned Cuban friend who attests to this disassociation; he remarks that, in Cuba, he always identified himself as white – personally and on paper.  However, in New York, he finds himself checking off “Hispanic” when filling out the ethnicity box on forms.  This change, he explains, is driven mostly by the fact that he realizes others here view him as Hispanic.  It thus becomes clear that cultural views of race shape an individual’s self-perception and play a pivotal role in explaining why the census may or may not be completely accurate.

– Foner’s discussion about the second generation’s interactions with native whites and minorities sheds light upon cultural assimilation patterns that vary among ethnic groups.  Foner points out that the formation of multi-ethnic groups emerges as students from different backgrounds develop friendships with one another and consequently form “a new kind of multiculturalism” (1017).  This type of inclusion is a marked characteristic of New York, perhaps validating the exceptional nature of this city.  Foner highlights the City University of New York as one manifestation of this type of multiculturalism.  Indeed, the diversity of CUNY students is made readily apparent by the variety of languages that can be heard spoken in the halls of Hunter!  Further, new immigrants to New York are provided with a multitude of educational opportunities through the CUNY system.

– How can students access demographic information about second generation children and their lifestyle choices?  How can a researcher gather such information to gain unskewed data?

Deconstructing NYC Immigration

– Joe Salvo’s talk about New York City immigration patterns centered upon data about migrating adults.  Is there any data/statistics regarding the children that migrate with their parents?  If so, how could this provide insight into the immersion experience?  If not, is the data presented skewed or incomplete?

– It was interesting to know that a large portion of Salvo’s talk hinged upon the diversity of New York; Salvo even pointed out that other cities, particularly Chicago and Los Angeles, are tacitly envious of the diversity that exists within the city.   I must admit the diversity in New York City is quite astounding.  Despite the fact that I am a native New Yorker – born and raised on Staten Island – I  became truly aware of the various rich cultures that the city contains after coming to Hunter.  My classmates in elementary school and high school were predominantly Irish and Italian, and I grew up in a neighborhood with the same demographic composition.  Salvo also highlighted the lack of diversity in Staten Island in his presentation.

– Further, Salvo pointed out that approximately eighty percent of Indian cab drivers in New York City held a college degree; this data suggests that immigrants from the subcontinent migrate at a later age, after they have completed their education.  It can thus be concluded that a large majority of Indian immigrants must therefore not come to America for educational purposes, as evidenced by the fact that they already hold a degree and do not continue in school here.  I personally know quite a few families to which this situation applies – I know someone who was a school principal back home, but took up a job driving taxis in America.  In these instances, earning money quickly seems to be the primary concern.

Foner Response-Anissa Daimally

Questions
1. There are four main groups of ethnicity according to Foner: Asian, White, Black and Hispanic. On many college applications, these are the only choices given to students to check off. What if you do not belong to any of these ethnicities? How does one define himself/herself?
2. Why is there a feud between African Americans and Hispanics? These two groups are competing for representation but is there another reason for the conflict?
3. Why is it that Los Angeles has more unskilled foreign workers than high-skilled foreign workers?

Comments
– The feud between African Americans and Hispanics seem to occur more in states in the Southwest and in Miami, Florida. Foner explains that these two groups are “in direct competition for representation on school boards and city councils and in other local arenas of power.” I feel that is wrong for some African American leaders to reject “the legitimacy of Latinos’ calls for affirmative action, arguing that it was created to redress the wrongs of slavery, not to benefit immigrants, and that Latinos are latecomers who did not engage in civil rights struggles.” Latinos did take part in the civil rights movement, such as the Chicano Movement. They fought for their civil rights, just as the African Americans did.
-Whenever I took state exams or filled out my college applications, I was asked to mark down my race/ethnicity. However, my race was not present on the forms. Because of this, I felt that my race did not matter. I feel that there should be more options for race and ethnicity.
-I found it interesting that Los Angeles has more unskilled foreign workers than high-skilled foreign workers. New York, however, has an equal ratio of unskilled foreign workers to high-skilled foreign workers.

Joe Salvo Response-Anissa Daimally

Questions
1. Are the data in the census maps accurate?
2. Why is the Black population decreasing in New York City?

Comments
-I found it interesting to learn about the racial demographics of New York City and how it has changed over a period of ten years, from 2000 to 2010.
-Joe Salvo stated that New York City’s population is dynamic. People migrate out of the city while others move in. What this means is that many people come in for opportunities, achieve their goals and leave, and others come in and take their place, seizing the opportunities for a better life.
-I was shocked to hear that the Black population was moving out of Brooklyn and that more Jews are moving into the area. Joe Salvo stated that most of the Black population is moving to East New York and Canarsie.
-I believe if the trends continue, the racial compositions of the boroughs will change. For example, in the next several decades, Brooklyn may no longer be the home of the greatest black population in New York City.
-Joe Salvo opened my eyes to the fact that net migration is a good thing. I always believed that if people migrated out of the city, it meant that the area was not doing well. Salvo corrected my mistake in explaining that migration allows more people to come in, producing diversity. However, if the population does not work in a ‘cycle’, that is if people were only leaving, this would be disastrous.
-The data in the census maps are not accurate. People may not write down their correct ethnicity. For example, some Hispanics may identify themselves as black when asked their race by the census.